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V12Kompressor
post Apr 18 2012, 10:59 AM

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QUOTE(mat79 @ Apr 18 2012, 10:55 AM)
in cvt, what kristof said is known as creep function. Where clutch pressure is maintain  to initiate forward movement when brake pedal is release. There also crawler function n pull-away(set off), slow sat mode when full throttle application to name a few. Some functions are to assist n for safety reasons.
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seriously, i hate the hill hold function. doh.gif
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post Apr 18 2012, 11:04 AM

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and safety means safety on driving behaviour n situation, safety to powettrain(engine) n driveterrain(cvt).

If it means easily accident, then, many cvt's cars user already involve in accidents.

Every engine, every trans has its own pros n cons. There is no best trans in the world, if u said dsg, just google the probs n troublesome for dsg, or even manuals has diff characteristics. Try out getrag one, mitsu one n aichikikai one in prtn's,they are all diff. By the way, if not mistaken flx se manual already on sale but still dont see any marketing of it, maybe overshadow by preve launching.
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QUOTE(ssaturn @ Apr 18 2012, 03:40 AM)
I agree on VW and it simplicity, VW switch button design really giving me a shock  brows.gif You can push it, twist it, pull it and pull it again for multi function purpose smile.gif
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Funny. When VW makes simple interior, praise like no tomorrow.

When Proton makes simple interior, say this and that, compare with this and that.


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post Apr 18 2012, 11:04 AM

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DSG, Tiptronic, CVT and etc will give you roll back on slope.
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post Apr 18 2012, 11:05 AM

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QUOTE(turbocharged @ Apr 18 2012, 10:19 AM)
i wonder why this car creates so much confusion.

if ppl can keeps on looking at rev meter when driving, they should be a racer. i thought proton pluged in a turbo to make the car faster and easy to drive?

i must go get a test drive this weekend then.

oh, u're the kenso from AW biggrin.gif u traded 1.6thp for 1.4tsi right? biggrin.gif
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Hi bro ... yes, the same kenso. I didn't exactly trade in my 1.6THP for the Golf .... at one point, both cars were home. I sold the 308 a few months later after getting the Golf.
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post Apr 18 2012, 11:11 AM

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post Apr 18 2012, 11:11 AM

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QUOTE(torres09 @ Apr 18 2012, 10:54 AM)
anything other than my 1.5 3AT hero will be an improvement. guess just need to get use to driving it when getting car. the tips and experience u guys shared are very useful to me. pls keep up the healthy debate and dont start the bashing!
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I also came from 1.5L, 3AT hero. Upgrading to a turbocharged 1.6L is really a new world to me. But after more than 2 years of driving it, honestly for me, the most significant thing of having a turbocharged engine is during overtaking. The ability to accelerate from, let's say 90~100KM/h to, well, the speed you can 'safely' overtake a car smile.gif
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post Apr 18 2012, 11:13 AM

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QUOTE(klow @ Apr 18 2012, 11:04 AM)
DSG, Tiptronic, CVT and etc will give you roll back on slope.
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er....nope, cvt wont roll back.

i hit a car on a slope, when my car is full of ppl.

engaged in D, did not pay attention, so i din press the brake hard enough.

slowly kissed the car in front.....and pay a small fee.
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post Apr 18 2012, 11:16 AM

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Since I'm also driving savvy amt i believe cvt lag is no big deal to me. I know how to deal with the lag with my amt from standstill or even in 'racing' mode brows.gif
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QUOTE(turbocharged @ Apr 18 2012, 11:13 AM)
er....nope, cvt wont roll back.

i hit a car on a slope, when my car is full of ppl.

engaged in D, did not pay attention, so i din press the brake hard enough.

slowly kissed the car in front.....and pay a small fee.
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thats on your inspirararara?

The clutch based one will roll back. So everytime in shopping malls when I stop in the middle of the ramp, after release brakes have to press throttle hard as if I'm driving a manual. lol Sometimes when the ramp is too steep, I have to use my left leg to hold the brakes and then release it when I press the throttle simultaneously or else its gonna roll down like a snowball.
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QUOTE(turbocharged @ Apr 18 2012, 11:13 AM)
er....nope, cvt wont roll back.

i hit a car on a slope, when my car is full of ppl.

engaged in D, did not pay attention, so i din press the brake hard enough.

slowly kissed the car in front.....and pay a small fee.
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it depends on the cvt calibration. if from creeping then hit brake and release brake without throttle, it will roll back, so it is safer to apply handbrake here. that's from my saga (punch) cvt experience
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QUOTE(ssaturn @ Apr 18 2012, 02:59 AM)
I hope I don't start the Flame here.. This is what I see for Proton Preve..

Exterior Design:
For my personal point of it, it just like you seeing a girl looks so beautiful from the back but when you look at the front you shocking.gif Fuuu llaaaa Mak... Ugly. I can say the front design is a little copy from VW Golf, with a KIA Forte butt Curve with some nice LED design just like what Savvy did. Conclusion Nice butt, ugly face.. Honestly I feel the New Myvi design win it all.

Interior Design:
The most disappointed thing I encounter, the design is way back like 10 years ago, they should just launch this car at the GEN 2 era.. sure it beat lots of people expectation. I feel even Myvi Interior Speedometer much much more better than this I so call upgraded version of Proton Saga Speedometer with (digital info).

The car is spaces, can fit lots of junk inside.

rest of the thing... "Standard Plastic", not meant for comfort use, but just useable. Once broken, you just have to replace them, don't ever thing their plastic can last more than 2,3 years.

Why Proton still go for center console doh.gif come on la, can't they just learn from Korean this time? Korean learning from Jap, and why not we learn from Korean? Look at Hyundai Elentra 2012, you will know what I talking about..

Performance:
Wait until I test drive first tongue.gif No comment yet.

So far, I won't pay for this junk.. I rather get Myvi and go outside shop change a nice Sport RIM, and put up some accessory.
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post Apr 18 2012, 11:22 AM

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QUOTE(huzaifa136 @ Apr 18 2012, 11:18 AM)
it depends on the cvt calibration. if from creeping then hit brake and release brake without throttle, it will roll back, so it is safer to apply handbrake here. that's from my saga (punch) cvt experience
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hah? no need handbrake la.. u must know ur car well.. release the brakes and accelerate abit. u should know the behaviour of your car of how much to step so it will maintain..

Easily to drive like this but con is consumes fuels hahahahahahaa
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QUOTE(V12Kompressor @ Apr 18 2012, 11:17 AM)
thats on your inspirararara?

The clutch based one will roll back. So everytime in shopping malls when I stop in the middle of the ramp, after release brakes have to press throttle hard as if I'm driving a manual. lol Sometimes when the ramp is too steep, I have to use my left leg to hold the brakes and then release it when I press the throttle simultaneously or else its gonna roll down like a snowball.
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ya....on second day of driving T.T.

eventually the car is powerful enough to overcome everything to hit the car in front . so, handbrake is a must now.

clutch based sounds better, hhmmm. and also can free gear before reaching traffic light? drool.gif
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post Apr 18 2012, 11:24 AM

hmmmm..
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one thing i like about these technology is that it really give lazy auto drivers (like me) to really pay attention to footwork, rpm meter and driving. Focus abit
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QUOTE(turbocharged @ Apr 18 2012, 11:23 AM)
ya....on second day of driving T.T.

eventually the car is powerful enough to overcome everything to hit the car in front . so, handbrake is a must now.

clutch based sounds better, hhmmm. and also can free gear before reaching traffic light?  drool.gif
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free gear before reaching traffic light?

u mean push to N when approaching red light/stationary traffic?
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post Apr 18 2012, 11:28 AM

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post Apr 18 2012, 11:29 AM

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QUOTE(mugenz @ Apr 18 2012, 11:22 AM)
hah? no need handbrake la.. u must know ur car well.. release the brakes and accelerate abit. u should know the behaviour of your car of how much to step so it will maintain..

Easily to drive like this but con is consumes fuels hahahahahahaa
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mybe i explained it wrong. because with at on a slope without throttle it won't roll back, so with clutch based cvt, if u brake and release throttle too quickly expecting the car to hold on the slope, it will just slide down. if u press throttle it'll surely hit car in front if it close enough. other way is to wait 1 sec or more then it will move on it's own forward on a slope without pressing throttle brows.gif it is what the punch guy said at autoworld forum

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Guys, earlier got proton people already claim that it already get 5 Stars ANCAP rating? Is it official? At the launch only stats MIROS 5 Stars not ANCAP.

I emailed ANCAP enquiring about this and wether they are testing the car or not.

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Thank you for your enquiry.  ANCAP has not issued a rating for the Proton Preve – any claims of an ANCAP rating are therefore incorrect.

regards
Nicholas Clarke
Chief Executive Officer
ANCAP Australasia Ltd
ABN 25 120 448 044
PO Box 4041 Manuka ACT 2603
Tel + 61 2 62320232  Fax +61 2 62320234
Mob 0419 605 435
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post Apr 18 2012, 11:31 AM

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Hi! everybody! the proton Preve OutLook not so bad! rite? But can i ask everybody! when i read the SPECS for the Proton Preve 1.6 CVT EXECUTIVE (Maximum output (kW / rpm) - 80 / 5750 / Maximum torque (Nm / rpm) - 150 / 4000 VS Proton Persona Maximum Power (kW/rpm) - 82 / 6500 82 / 6500 / Max Torque (Nm/rpm) - 148 / 4000 148 / 4000.
I hear some people say Proton Persona MAKAN FUEL. Mean Proton Preve 1.6 CVT EXECUTIVE also same MAKAN FUEL? anybody can answer me? coz i plan to buy this Proton Preve 1.6 CVT EXECUTIVE ! Thanks

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