with our road conditions (potholes, uneven road, high raised bumps etc)
i rather buy mid range cars. in this case, malaysian car.
i dont care what people want to say.

in the end, i have the last laugh.. haha
(due to the spare parts cost, servicing etc. typical scenario - "aiya, this month pokai! service car rm1k+, spare parts rmXXX, this that this tat")

This post has been edited by iOnine: Apr 18 2012, 10:24 AM

Had to admit, I'm not really looking for a sedan. But with people fussing with the lag and such, now I'm intrigued to test drive it.

i did look at the meter display quite a lot esp rev. we still need it eventho some might not look at it while driving.

it suppose to be easy to drive if u know how. it's a new tech which make it into cheap car

aiyoh, even my 7 year-old savvy doesn't need to go to service center twice a month to rectify problems.

after reading a few pages...i noticed that
1) a lot of ppl are comparing the preve to exora ? why ? you shouldnt compare mpv and a c class segment .

2) also a lot of ppl comparing hot hatch (polo/golf/swift) to preve ? again, not same category in size, weight and performance

3) seems that a few QC issues on the 1st batch of preve ? will wait and see

4) was i a proton car owner b4 ? yes, drove a wira for a few years, crappy car and had problems with the power windows (yup, spent a bomb to replace two) and always had alignment issues. Switched to nissan sentra and never looked back.

5) i was considering a value for money c segment car to get me from a to b . will need to test drive to see if this can be the one or just stick to the cheaper myvi maybe....( or polo sedan launching soon!)

6) i would like to see people compare preve with
- civic
- elantra
- altis
- forte
obviously preve is the cheapest, but how about everything else?

yea, but i refuse to believe anyone driving 1.6thp or 2.0tsi or 1.4tsi has to look at the rev meter when they wanna drive their car, unless we're talking about big turbos like in those skylines or evos.

but, i must not comment anymore on the lag or turbo or rev, until i go for a test drive

but, the only reason i look at my rev meter is because i do not want to harm my cvt, when i am vroom vroom.

Still its NA VS Force induction. NA quite consistent with its torque and HP. FI does have to take into consideration of others.. outcome varies also.

thats why the initial acceleration is quite consistent. Like i say its still a 1.6 on base. Cannot assume its 1.6 CPE = 2.0L
Taking full use of it, it may perform like a 2.0 but how often u push it to max? lol

Turbo lag, can use something like S-AFC to remap the fuel map and boost controller to boost up abit.

CVT lag, nothing can be solved. CVT is CVT.

we comparing the technology la kawan..

if u say golf/polo/308T where it works just like CFE technology of preve.. nobody compare it overall car vs overall car.

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Added on April 18, 2012, 10:35 amif u do some adjustment to the CFE lag problem. If stock CFE lag + CVT lag = really hard time..

This post has been edited by mugenz: Apr 18 2012, 10:35 AM

got the fella above
as mugenz mention because turbo torque comes at certain rpm. if NA then no problem, even if it comes with cvt

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Added on April 18, 2012, 10:39 amseems no one really bothered about interior anymore, handling, braking.
major concern: cfe + cvt drivebility


This post has been edited by huzaifa136: Apr 18 2012, 10:39 AM

yup..major concern now is possible to fine tune for better pick up from standstill...??? The rest stuff like handling, braking , interior Preve has been PASSED

its nice to kacau your passenger.

The sudden pull of boost then de-celerate wait for lag, then boost again, the sudden pull again.

if u have elderly ppl + after a full meal = vomit in the car.

Not very pleasant journey hahahahaha

For the turbo lag, you can trim the fins and mod ball bearing (don't think the turbine is ball bearing), change extractor, port-polish. All will void warranty.

do so much for a 4 door passenger sedan?

1) Exora is the only other car model that uses the CFE engine. Natural to compare both.
2) I agree with you but people share their perspective from where they're coming from so if their current ride is a Polo/Golf/Swift, they have to see how the Preve stacks up against them
3) QC issue is a distorted fact if we're still looking at that ONE defect picture. Anyone else encounter a different picture of the same problem yet? The poor aesthetic spot welding (but NOT necessarily unsafe) of the door is a fact though
4) I have a 7 year old Iswara at home, bought 2nd hand last year. Works beautifully.
5) Viva can fulfill that function just as well, bro
6) Already did the comparison chart in my blog. Pls check signature below

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Added on April 18, 2012, 10:52 amI get that with my Golf .... Don't like the driving feel but not my car so cannot complain

This post has been edited by kenso77: Apr 18 2012, 10:52 AM

anything other than my 1.5 3AT hero will be an improvement. guess just need to get use to driving it when getting car. the tips and experience u guys shared are very useful to me. pls keep up the healthy debate and dont start the bashing!

in cvt, what kristof said is known as creep function. Where clutch pressure is maintain to initiate forward movement when brake pedal is release. There also crawler function n pull-away(set off), slow sat mode when full throttle application to name a few. Some functions are to assist n for safety reasons.

Solution for those who ask for better pick up from standstill.

it's a matter of time for us to get use on driving method of cfe+cvt...

i havent drive any CVT b4,

just to ask u whether if compared with DSG.

coz DSG does give u a roll back on slight uneven road, just like a manual tranny.

clutch release and accelerate not enough kind of situation where the car will move back abit.