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post Apr 18 2012, 11:32 AM

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QUOTE(FrostLance @ Apr 18 2012, 11:29 AM)
Guys, earlier got proton people already claim that it already get 5 Stars ANCAP rating? Is it official? At the launch only stats MIROS 5 Stars not ANCAP.

I emailed ANCAP enquiring about this and wether they are testing the car or not.
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err abang tunggulah preve kuat dekat market aus, baru ada official 5 stars laugh.gif
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post Apr 18 2012, 11:33 AM

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QUOTE(FrostLance @ Apr 18 2012, 11:29 AM)
Guys, earlier got proton people already claim that it already get 5 Stars ANCAP rating? Is it official? At the launch only stats MIROS 5 Stars not ANCAP.

I emailed ANCAP enquiring about this and wether they are testing the car or not.
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ancap havent test yet...wait the reach shore of aus then they randomly pick 1 to test tongue.gif ..
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post Apr 18 2012, 11:34 AM

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QUOTE(maverickng @ Apr 18 2012, 11:33 AM)
ancap havent test yet...wait the reach shore of aus then they randomly pick 1 to test  tongue.gif ..
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ooo..but how come before launch already so confident will get 5 star ancap safety
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post Apr 18 2012, 11:34 AM

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QUOTE(jeffreyong1969 @ Apr 18 2012, 11:31 AM)
Hi! everybody! the proton Preve OutLook not so bad! rite? But can i ask everybody! when i read the SPECS for the Proton Preve 1.6 CVT EXECUTIVE (Maximum output (kW / rpm) - 80 / 5750 / Maximum torque (Nm / rpm) - 150 / 4000 VS Proton Persona Maximum Power (kW/rpm) - 82 / 6500 82 / 6500 / Max Torque (Nm/rpm) - 148 / 4000 148 / 4000.
I hear some people say Proton Persona MAKAN FUEL. Mean Proton Preve 1.6 CVT EXECUTIVE  also same MAKAN FUEL? anybody can answer me? coz i plan to buy this Proton Preve 1.6 CVT EXECUTIVE ! Thanks
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both engine is the same, but the 1.6 in the Preve is slightly revised to accomodate the CVT. So in the end it comes down to the efficientcy of the CVT itself. The 1.6 Campro IAFM+ + CVT is more efficient when compared to the IAFM + 4 speed auto in the Persona, but you also got tof actor in the weight of the car. And not to mention, FC is all on how you press the throttle. Drive like uncle then you can get good FC. By driving like uncle, I didn't mean drive 30-40kmh. I mean going constantly 80-90kmh when given the chance and the road condition permits.
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post Apr 18 2012, 11:35 AM

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QUOTE(FrostLance @ Apr 18 2012, 11:29 AM)
Guys, earlier got proton people already claim that it already get 5 Stars ANCAP rating? Is it official? At the launch only stats MIROS 5 Stars not ANCAP.

I emailed ANCAP enquiring about this and wether they are testing the car or not.
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To get rated by ANCAP must be sold in Australia first. Everything u heard before this is just unofficial. Just claim that preve will get 5 star.
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post Apr 18 2012, 11:36 AM

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Whoever came up with the idea of these 'touch screens cum touch buttons' should really get a warning letter. The top two are touch button while the third is a button.

My God, why on earth do that?
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QUOTE(mutt @ Apr 18 2012, 11:35 AM)
To get rated by ANCAP must be sold in Australia first. Everything u heard before this is just unofficial. Just claim that preve will get 5 star.
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ok thx for the clarification . It will reach aussie this september if not mistaken.
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post Apr 18 2012, 11:37 AM

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QUOTE(waja2000 @ Apr 17 2012, 10:54 PM)
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too bad, only Passenger Airbag and seat beat is indicators. door lock ESC and rear mirror heat is button.
too bad the button spoil by consumer become a prove used to attack QC of Preve by a lot anti ppl, specially now a lot sharing this image in Facebook.
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this one should blame proton lo, it is their fault. If it is indicator, then they should design it to be like indicator, not like a button. Even view it from the pic, also look like buttons. hmm.gif
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QUOTE(Hidan @ Apr 18 2012, 11:36 AM)
Whoever came up with the idea of these 'touch screens cum touch buttons' should really get a warning letter. The top two are touch button while the third is a button.

My God, why on earth do that?
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nope, the top two is only indicator and only the bottom one is a button. The button to switch off the passenger airbag is in the glovebox.
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post Apr 18 2012, 11:39 AM

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QUOTE(turbocharged @ Apr 18 2012, 11:13 AM)
er....nope, cvt wont roll back.

i hit a car on a slope, when my car is full of ppl.

engaged in D, did not pay attention, so i din press the brake hard enough.

slowly kissed the car in front.....and pay a small fee.
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If the engine is powerful then it will not roll back but not all engine that powerful. That's why the tech "Hill-start assist". For normal car, it shall roll back.
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QUOTE(kevintth @ Apr 18 2012, 11:37 AM)
this one should blame proton lo, it is their fault. If it is indicator, then they should design it to be like indicator, not like a button. Even view it from the pic, also look like buttons.  hmm.gif
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Definitely is the fault of designer. Misleading... I was nearly breaking another one yesterday. tongue.gif

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QUOTE(FrostLance @ Apr 18 2012, 11:34 AM)
ooo..but how come before launch already so confident will get 5 star ancap safety
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it is designed to get 5 stars rating. unofficially they have done some testings in australia and spain if i'm not mistaken.

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why cant find any MYVAP report regarding Preve safety rating score?
They just simply award is it lolx?

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QUOTE(FrostLance @ Apr 18 2012, 11:34 AM)
ooo..but how come before launch already so confident will get 5 star ancap safety
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Aiyo abg, prtn mane ader issue official statement 5 stars ANCAP, prtn issue preve design to MEET 5 stars NCAP by doing various testing according to ncap(whether euro@auncap) procedures n more that is under unece procedures, thatchams, adr n many more.

Aiyo, already tarnish the name before arrived there :-). Whay u heard is unofficial statement by somebody on the net.

Haishhh, is that hard to understand.
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post Apr 18 2012, 11:43 AM

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QUOTE(kevintth @ Apr 18 2012, 11:40 AM)
why cant find any MYVAP report regarding Preve safety rating score?
They just simply award is it lolx?
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Only MIROS la for now...
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post Apr 18 2012, 11:43 AM

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QUOTE(klow @ Apr 18 2012, 11:39 AM)
If the engine is powerful then it will not roll back but not all engine that powerful. That's why the tech "Hill-start assist". For normal car, it shall roll back.
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it has something to do with cvt. to understand further:

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1) I notice that exora bold still roll back on even slight /gradual slope(not-too-steep slope). Normal auto gear vehicle only will roll back when the slope is too steep, if it is not steep enough, it's will lock at there. Is there anyway to make CVT lock it when reach slight/gradual slope? It is kinda dangerous esp for new driver.
You are correct. This is a know "issue", but is a design feature actually. Two things contribute to this:
First thing is what we call idle neutral, unlike all regular older AT's that have a constantly dragging torque converter or clutch, we open our clutch (a wet clutch, more pressure = more drag, even more pressure closes it) almost completely when you are pressing the brake and standing still. this way fuel is saved. If you release the brake a little time is needed to apply pressure to our clutch again. that is when you roll back a little, rollback only occurs on hills steeper than 10%.
secondly the engine cannot deliver a lot of power idling, when aircon is on, heavy car, on a hill, we can start closing the clutch in order not to roll back, but that will cause the engine to stall. When you apply trottle you will notice first the clutch opens a little bit so engine revs up, than we start closing the clutch, during revving up, you can encounter rollback.

What to do? use handbrake in stead of brake, this way we not shift to neutral (we only read regular brake signal not handbrake), use enough trottle, this way the engine produces engough power to close the clutch in one move.


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QUOTE(mat79 @ Apr 18 2012, 11:42 AM)
Aiyo abg, prtn mane ader issue official statement 5 stars ANCAP, prtn issue preve design to MEET 5 stars NCAP by doing various testing according to ncap(whether euro@auncap) procedures n more that is under unece procedures, thatchams, adr n many more.

Aiyo, already tarnish the name before arrived there :-). Whay u heard is unofficial statement by somebody on the net.

Haishhh, is that hard to understand.
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The only thing that can zipped malaysian mouth who hates prtn so much is to do well globally.
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QUOTE(mutt @ Apr 18 2012, 11:43 AM)
Only MIROS la for now...
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lol... thats why im asking.... Malaysian Vehicle Assessment Programme (myvap)

they award them, but no report issue on their miros website

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post Apr 18 2012, 11:49 AM

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QUOTE(V12Kompressor @ Apr 18 2012, 11:34 AM)
both engine is the same, but the 1.6 in the Preve is slightly revised to accomodate the CVT. So in the end it comes down to the efficientcy of the CVT itself. The 1.6 Campro IAFM+ + CVT is more efficient when compared to the IAFM + 4 speed auto in the Persona, but you also got tof actor in the weight of the car. And not to mention, FC is all on how you press the throttle. Drive like uncle then you can get good FC. By driving like uncle, I didn't mean drive 30-40kmh. I mean going constantly 80-90kmh when given the chance and the road condition permits.
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I think No diff with persona. Makan FC! sad.gif.....
compare with Alza...Alza better?

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QUOTE(faizalmzain @ Apr 18 2012, 11:40 AM)
it is designed to get 5 stars rating. unofficially they have done some testings in australia and spain if i'm not mistaken.
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From:Nicholas Clarke(Nicholas.Clarke@ancap.com.au)
Subject : Re: Proton P3-21A Crash Test
We are currently testing a new Proton but the result will not be available for several months.  Please see our website ANCAP.com.au for details of crash test speeds.


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