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Maknusia
post Nov 5 2012, 04:27 PM

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QUOTE(astralliquid @ Nov 3 2012, 12:48 AM)
http://wellnessmama.com/575/how-grains-are...ing-you-slowly/

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Interestingly the link you provided did not cite any scientific research at all?!

You may want to read further here as well.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23065833


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post Nov 7 2012, 10:19 AM

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QUOTE(krypt5 @ Apr 18 2012, 10:42 AM)
Tried the 5-6 meal method. No difference for me in terms of result. It just felt more irritating. Broscience sux. Lol.
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Why dont you try sitting in a Far Infrared Sauna? Each session burns 600-900 calories?
Weight loss = Calories in < Calories Burn, so this way you get some calories burnt.
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Added on November 7, 2012, 10:21 am
QUOTE(viruz019 @ Apr 18 2012, 09:34 PM)
Hey all,

I'm starting to lose weight lately, but not sure if my method is consider "alright"

I go to gym 3 times every week (Monday, Wednesday and Friday) and sometimes an extra.

My routine:
15min cycling + (2-5minute of cooldown *auto set by the machine*)
10min threadmill *speed 4~5.5* + (5minute of cooldown)
10~30min of muscle training (do 4 sets and each set 10 times)
lastly, at least Swimming for 20 laps (normally about 20minutes)

is that consider okay?
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If you have dripping sweat and out of breathe while exercising, you will surely losse weight provided you eat the right food.


Added on November 7, 2012, 10:24 am
QUOTE(hexion @ Apr 20 2012, 01:57 PM)
do i need to do abs exercise to get more satisfying result in slimming down my belly? i have been doing cardio and weight training for the past few months, but still have some leftover hanging there. my weight is within a range of 68-72kg and height 178cm.
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Try sitting in FIR Sauna, NOT the normal sauna u see in the gym. Each session burns 600 - 900 calories (more than running marathon) and only 30 minutes. You will loose weight safely and quite fast too.


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QUOTE(viruz019 @ Apr 19 2012, 03:42 PM)
yea..current weight is 119kg..height 180cm
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There is a new therapy , just sit in FIR Sauna. Able to burn 600 - 900 calories. Google it up.

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post Nov 7 2012, 06:28 PM

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QUOTE(Insanity_Jerr @ Nov 1 2012, 11:31 PM)
Hey guys, I was just wondering how lose tummy fats? Ive tried a lot of things such as running, cutting down on fatty foods, late night indulging, as well as slimming lotion. Nothing seems to work. And ideas? Malu sikit when I go swimming with buddies. Tummy only so big, the rest normal only. Haha~
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cut down on food intake. I'm on a cutting phase now, so I can tell you how much food you have to cut.

breakfast,
nothing, I hate breakfasts. tongue.gif

lunch,
- small bowl of pasta or spaghetti, around 300-400kcal
- protein shake, 110kcal

dinner,
- minimal rice with meat and veg, 500kcal.

so it usually rounds of to around 1000kcal. tongue.gif it is very effective. and you might be asking, how the hell you get energy and also eating so little? and here the fat burners come into play.
no milo, no candies, no soft drinks and drink lots of water. I have a beach date next week, so I have to go to the extreme alr. tongue.gif

and fasted training. smile.gif

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post Nov 7 2012, 07:10 PM

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QUOTE(TechnoG @ Nov 7 2012, 06:28 PM)
cut down on food intake. I'm on a cutting phase now, so I can tell you how much food you have to cut.

breakfast,
nothing, I hate breakfasts. tongue.gif

lunch,
- small bowl of pasta or spaghetti, around 300-400kcal
- protein shake, 110kcal

dinner,
- minimal rice with meat and veg, 500kcal.

so it usually rounds of to around 1000kcal. tongue.gif it is very effective. and you might be asking, how the hell you get energy and also eating so little? and here the fat burners come into play.
no milo, no candies, no soft drinks and drink lots of water. I have a beach date next week, so I have to go to the extreme alr. tongue.gif

and fasted training. smile.gif
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Extreme low calorie diet do make you lose weight faster. Why? Because your muscle will be loss during that period; provided you have muscles to begin with.
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QUOTE(alien9 @ Nov 7 2012, 07:10 PM)
Extreme low calorie diet do make you lose weight faster. Why? Because your muscle will be loss during that period; provided you have muscles to begin with.
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Good advise there Alien9! again, many fail to understand to have a constant lifestyle change in order to maintain. Weight loss is not a one time thingy, as in any statistic graph, gradual reduction is sustainable; whereas if the there is a positive a negative spike, its only gonna bounce again.

anyways, some are just stubborn/ignorant, we could only advise end of the day, its their body and let them go thru the phases, dont say you have not been warned. sigh.
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QUOTE(Maknusia @ Nov 5 2012, 04:27 PM)
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Interestingly the link you provided did not cite any scientific research at all?!

You may want to read further here as well.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23065833
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I agree that post do not have scientific source, this link below might have some source quoted but it all boils down to how you believe your own body works. The comments section are particularly interesting.
Article about why grains is bad..
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post Nov 8 2012, 01:00 PM

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tbh, I believe the term 'low calorie diet will make you lose muscle' come about because eating less which equals to less calorie in, will result in less nutrients for rebuilding, repairing and maintaining muscle mass. stuff like essential amnio acids/first class protein will be close to nil because dipping below 1k calorie doesn't really provide much.

solution is, rely on supps for the time being. biggrin.gif

there isnt any scientific proof that when glycogen(carbs) is all used up, muscle will be burned to provide energy.

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QUOTE(TechnoG @ Nov 8 2012, 01:00 PM)
tbh, I believe the term 'low calorie diet will make you lose muscle' come about because eating less which equals to less calorie in, will result in less nutrients for rebuilding, repairing and maintaining muscle mass. stuff like essential amnio acids/first class protein will be close to nil because dipping below 1k calorie doesn't really provide much.

solution is, rely on supps for the time being. biggrin.gif

there isnt any scientific proof that when glycogen(carbs) is all used up, muscle will be burned to provide energy.
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Here's the thing. Assuming that you are a male, your BMR should be more than 1000kcal. Do you know what is BMR? BMR is a value in calorie which our body needs in order to function at minimum level. Emphasis on minimum. Muscles, need energy 24/7 and if you are not providing sufficient energy, you'll lose your muscle. Ever wonder why bodybuilder who in cutting phase didn't do extreme low calorie diet? What's the purpose of bulking if you are losing muscle during cutting?

General rule of thumb while cutting is, maximum of 20% calorie deficit from calorie maintenance. More than that, your muscle didn't get enough energy (comes from calorie) and it will start to breakdown.

BTW, I estimated that according to your diet, your protein intake didn't even barely reach 100 g. Is that enough for you body even with a scoop of protein shake? NO.
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QUOTE(alien9 @ Nov 8 2012, 02:32 PM)
Here's the thing. Assuming that you are a male, your BMR should be more than 1000kcal. Do you know what is BMR? BMR is a value in calorie which our body needs in order to function at minimum level. Emphasis on minimum. Muscles, need energy 24/7 and if you are not providing sufficient energy, you'll lose your muscle. Ever wonder why bodybuilder who in cutting phase didn't do extreme low calorie diet? What's the purpose of bulking if you are losing muscle during cutting?

General rule of thumb while cutting is, maximum of 20% calorie deficit from calorie maintenance. More than that, your muscle didn't get enough energy (comes from calorie) and it will start to breakdown.

BTW, I estimated that according to your diet, your protein intake didn't even barely reach 100 g. Is that enough for you body even with a scoop of protein shake? NO.
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that's what I'm trying to highlight, is there any scientific proof for this? Muscle itself would not breakdown when there is insufficient energy. muscle itself isn't a energy provider at the very first place. It'll only breakdown when you lift and you don't take enough protein to repair it. So a low calorie diet indirectly affects it because protein intake isn't enough. In fact fats have higher energy value than carbs because of the oxygen ratio or something like that, can't remember.

around 80g of protein the last time I calculated, without any protein shakes. I'll usually take 2 scoops of protein and it'll be just nice for 0.75g/lbs.

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QUOTE(TechnoG @ Nov 8 2012, 06:27 PM)
that's what I'm trying to highlight, is there any scientific proof for this? Muscle itself would not breakdown when there is insufficient energy. muscle itself isn't a energy provider at the very first place.
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shocking.gif Yes there is scientific proof. Read up and educate yourself before spreading dangerous advice please.

Muscle is broken down if your caloric deficit is too large for too long because your body cannot maintain it. Muscles are greedy - they need calories and nutrients to be maintained. Even with 'enough' protein, it can still be diminished as your body is unable to meet its demands.

Not to mention, fat mass is crap for supplying your body with necessary glucose and amino acids if broken down ESPECIALLY if you are conducting high intensity workouts like weight training or serious cardio. So if your body is not getting it from your diet then where do you think it is going to suck it out off? Your muscles.

That said, if you are a very unique human being that is able to thrive and stay big and muscular on a diet of 1000 calories a day and what is insufficient nutrients for the rest of us - then congratulations! thumbup.gif

Just don't go around telling others that such a thing will work for them shakehead.gif
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QUOTE(shadowz @ Nov 8 2012, 07:24 PM)
shocking.gif Yes there is scientific proof. Read up and educate yourself before spreading dangerous advice please.

Muscle is broken down if your caloric deficit is too large for too long because your body cannot maintain it. Muscles are greedy - they need calories and nutrients to be maintained. Even with 'enough' protein, it can still be diminished as your body is unable to meet its demands.

Not to mention, fat mass is crap for supplying your body with necessary glucose and amino acids if broken down ESPECIALLY if you are conducting high intensity workouts like weight training or serious cardio. So if your body is not getting it from your diet then where do you think it is going to suck it out off? Your muscles.

That said, if you are a very unique human being that is able to thrive and stay big and muscular on a diet of 1000 calories a day and what is insufficient nutrients for the rest of us - then congratulations! thumbup.gif

Just don't go around telling others that such a thing will work for them shakehead.gif
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umm, proof? instead of talking why not just post it down here.

first of all, muscles are made up of amino blocks(protein), water and some glucose. I agree on the nutrients part, but then calories? what does calories have to do with muscle maintenance? Say fats are high in cal, so I eat loads of them to maintain my muscle?
and our body do keep extra amino acids, thats why if you dunk on tons of protein, you'll get fat. Obviously you dont use fat to supply the body with glucose and amino acids, cos fat is fat..it is for energy purposes. fat > carbs in terms of energy value. But I'm not saying one should not totally weaned off from carbs.

and yes, I did mention it was for short term..unless you are anorexic.

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QUOTE(TechnoG @ Nov 8 2012, 09:17 PM)
umm, proof? instead of talking why not just post it down here.

first of all, muscles are made up of amino blocks(protein), water and some glucose. I agree on the nutrients part, but then calories? what does calories have to do with muscle maintenance? Say fats are high in cal, so I eat loads of them to maintain my muscle?
and our body do keep extra amino acids, thats why if you dunk on tons of protein, you'll get fat. Obviously you dont use fat to supply the body with glucose and amino acids, cos fat is fat..it is for energy purposes. fat > carbs in terms of energy value. But I'm not saying one should not totally weaned off from carbs.

and yes, I did mention it was for short term..unless you are anorexic.
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Ever wonder why people who have lots of muscle have higher value of BMR? Ever wonder why bodybuilders need a lot of calorie (more than 5K kcal depending on the amount of muscles) just to MAINTAIN their weight?
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QUOTE(TechnoG @ Nov 8 2012, 09:17 PM)
umm, proof? instead of talking why not just post it down here.

first of all, muscles are made up of amino blocks(protein), water and some glucose. I agree on the nutrients part, but then calories? what does calories have to do with muscle maintenance? Say fats are high in cal, so I eat loads of them to maintain my muscle?
and our body do keep extra amino acids, thats why if you dunk on tons of protein, you'll get fat. Obviously you dont use fat to supply the body with glucose and amino acids, cos fat is fat..it is for energy purposes. fat > carbs in terms of energy value. But I'm not saying one should not totally weaned off from carbs.

and yes, I did mention it was for short term..unless you are anorexic.
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Eh Excuse me ah. I will have you know I am aware of why proteins are constantly insisted on being essential (thus me mentioning amino acids) so please refrain from speaking to me like I have not been intelligent enough to have acquired such information.

Your body has LIMITED amounts of Amino acids, and CONSTANT need for. While it can go through brief fasted periods and thrive, after days and days it has to get it somewhere - SEE: Muslim Weight Lifters after fasting month: they always experience a loss in muscle mass due to decreased food intake even with continued training.

If your body has LIMITED amino acids and it NEEDS MORE then the only source it has to leech it from are your muscles! The severity of it depends on several factors such as size of deficit, bodyfat, newbie lifter, etc but the fact remains if you starve the body (Which you will unless you are a 3 foot midget who ISNT weight training) it will take what it can from sources available to them.

And yes I know you mentioned limited but thats still a matter of opinion - you mean 2 days? Have at it. You probably mean 2-3 months though to cut (unless you cut only 1 kg)

By all means, eat 1000 calories and train to maintain your muscle. I conceded that ypou can do whatever the heck you want.

But again I repeat DONT go spouting your nonsense just because it works for your unique body to everyone. It wont work for them.

There was a 2009 study done at Rockefeller University and there are numerous reports from people who have lifted longer than you or I have lifted (or even lived)

http://www.pacifichealthlabs.com/blog/can-...-crash-dieting/

Diets that have smaller daily caloric deficits (300-500 calories) shed fat while preserving lean body mass.

http://www.pacifichealthlabs.com/blog/coul...not-to-do-that/

But in subjects who severely reduced their daily caloric intake, fat represented 48% of the total weight loss and muscle 42%.

https://s3.amazonaws.com/media.nobullbodybu...lose_muscle.pdf

One of the major factors mentioned in the research was the severity of the calorie
deficit:
“Very aggressive calorie deficits and very low calorie diets tend to erode lean body
mass to a great degree than more conservative deficits.”


http://www.simplyshredded.com/layne-norton...tting-diet.html

The severity of your calorie deficit will, to a large extent, determine how much muscle you retain/lose.
Short periods of high severity dieting (more than 1000 kcals per day below maintenance level) are not too muscle wasting, but prolonging them for more than a few days will certainly cause one to lose a good deal of muscle.


P/S: GOOGLE GOOGLE GOOGLE

whistling.gif Who is the one posting without proof? Now you post proof of research showing you eat below BMR and lose less than 5-10% LBM icon_idea.gif Back yourself up if you insist on spreading the word.

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QUOTE(shadowz @ Nov 9 2012, 06:35 AM)
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starve the body? that was what I was pointing out at the first place.
People relate calories to muscle loss because less calories translates to less food going into the body, agree? and that means less natural protein too. So I was just saying about taking whey protein and daily multivits supplements, I don't see anything wrong with that.

"What this study shows is that there is a huge misconception about low calorie diets and its effects on the human body. Now, I don’t recommend people to go on an 800 calorie diet because that is a bit too extreme in my opinion, but I just want to show people that going on a low calorie diet isn’t as bad as you think it is."
http://www.jacn.org/content/18/2/115.abstract

and I never mentioned it was for a long term run, if you even bothered to read the first post, I've stated clearly that I have a beach date next week, on the 15th to be precise. Obviously I know going on a low calorie diet on a long term is not good for the body.

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QUOTE(Kriish @ Nov 9 2012, 11:11 PM)
I don't have google research to back me up, considering that I'm freaking lazy and always hated research work. However, what I can share with you is my personal experience.

Here is my credentials :

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Left : 97KG (5 months ago)
Right : 78KG (2 months ago

Today (WARNING HALF NAKED PIC! MY BODY AINT PRETTY TO LOOK AT)

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I'm currently at 73KG (btw my height 178cm)
I can't tell you if it's good or bad. I would just like to physically show you the outcome you can expect from a pure cardio and extreme calorie deficit diet (on some days I barely hit 1000 calories). Could it be better? Perhaps? The muscles on my shoulder is kinda lacking, so I'm planning to bulk up once I've cut down to 67kg. However, despite having most of the days on calories deficit, I still treat myself (occasionally, twice a week) to nice meals with my families, attending mamak, drinking, wedding and birthday parties. There's only 2-3 heavy meals a week won't hurt, just watch out your meals on other days when you're more in control of what you eat.

Did I lose a lot of muscle? Did the muscle loss from extreme deficit affected me greatly? I won't know. What I can tell now is that currently, I'm SIGNIFICANTLY feel much better on my daily activities. 97KG time I used to dread even a short walk from my office to the toilet. Nowdays, I don't even mind taking a 2km walk back to my house from the LRT station (always do this when the traffic was so bad that I'm walking faster than the cars on the road). My body feels great and I hardly feel tired even walking up 5 stories to my office floor, and buying clothes is great nowdays.

I have showed you the method and result based on my experience. I'm not here to tell you what's right or wrong. It's up to you to decide what you want to do.

Oh finally I would like to stress this out : LISTEN TO YOUR BODY! (although I would like you to resist the evil temptations from your stomach, unless it starts to hurt)
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Ever wonder why the weight loss result started to diminished? The first 3 months you've lose 19 kg and the next 2 months just 5 kg. The answer is, you got no muscle left to lose. And no, your body doesn't have any 'muscularity'. And your shoulder isn't lacking but nearly non-existence.

Sorry mate. Congrats on the huge weight loss but what you've done to your body, it's not pretty.
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<THE QUESTION STARTS HERE>
So, I want to achieve a better shape and tone before 2013 comes.
My weight : 54KG (I have a layered stomach to be honest)
Height: 156CM

PS: I have a slight asthma. It's not really serious anyway smile.gif

I want to lose about 5-8KG in 2 months, if it is possible.
Plus, I also want to have an abs like Jenna Marbles too! (The abs is not really necessary actually)

I don't have anyone to ask in real life about this.
And I never even tried to lost weight before, this is my first time.
So, I really have no clue on where to start and what to do.

Anyway, can anyone please advice me on what should I do for my exercise? My eating diet?
Daily routine or anything that is important?
Please.
And I'm truly sorry if I annoys you with this or you don't understand what I said sad.gif

Thank you ><

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QUOTE(Kriish @ Nov 9 2012, 04:11 PM)
I don't have google research to back me up, considering that I'm freaking lazy and always hated research work. However, what I can share with you is my personal experience.

Here is my credentials :

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Left : 97KG (5 months ago)
Right : 78KG (2 months ago

Today (WARNING HALF NAKED PIC! MY BODY AINT PRETTY TO LOOK AT)

» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «

I'm currently at 73KG (btw my height 178cm)
I can't tell you if it's good or bad. I would just like to physically show you the outcome you can expect from a pure cardio and extreme calorie deficit diet (on some days I barely hit 1000 calories). Could it be better? Perhaps? The muscles on my shoulder is kinda lacking, so I'm planning to bulk up once I've cut down to 67kg. However, despite having most of the days on calories deficit, I still treat myself (occasionally, twice a week) to nice meals with my families, attending mamak, drinking, wedding and birthday parties. There's only 2-3 heavy meals a week won't hurt, just watch out your meals on other days when you're more in control of what you eat.

Did I lose a lot of muscle? Did the muscle loss from extreme deficit affected me greatly? I won't know. What I can tell now is that currently, I'm SIGNIFICANTLY feel much better on my daily activities. 97KG time I used to dread even a short walk from my office to the toilet. Nowdays, I don't even mind taking a 2km walk back to my house from the LRT station (always do this when the traffic was so bad that I'm walking faster than the cars on the road). My body feels great and I hardly feel tired even walking up 5 stories to my office floor, and buying clothes is great nowdays.

I have showed you the method and result based on my experience. I'm not here to tell you what's right or wrong. It's up to you to decide what you want to do.

Oh finally I would like to stress this out : LISTEN TO YOUR BODY! (although I would like you to resist the evil temptations from your stomach, unless it starts to hurt)
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QUOTE(Kriish @ Nov 9 2012, 11:11 PM)
I don't have google research to back me up, considering that I'm freaking lazy and always hated research work. However, what I can share with you is my personal experience.

Here is my credentials :

» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «

Left : 97KG (5 months ago)
Right : 78KG (2 months ago

Today (WARNING HALF NAKED PIC! MY BODY AINT PRETTY TO LOOK AT)

» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «

I'm currently at 73KG (btw my height 178cm)
I can't tell you if it's good or bad. I would just like to physically show you the outcome you can expect from a pure cardio and extreme calorie deficit diet (on some days I barely hit 1000 calories). Could it be better? Perhaps? The muscles on my shoulder is kinda lacking, so I'm planning to bulk up once I've cut down to 67kg. However, despite having most of the days on calories deficit, I still treat myself (occasionally, twice a week) to nice meals with my families, attending mamak, drinking, wedding and birthday parties. There's only 2-3 heavy meals a week won't hurt, just watch out your meals on other days when you're more in control of what you eat.

Did I lose a lot of muscle? Did the muscle loss from extreme deficit affected me greatly? I won't know. What I can tell now is that currently, I'm SIGNIFICANTLY feel much better on my daily activities. 97KG time I used to dread even a short walk from my office to the toilet. Nowdays, I don't even mind taking a 2km walk back to my house from the LRT station (always do this when the traffic was so bad that I'm walking faster than the cars on the road). My body feels great and I hardly feel tired even walking up 5 stories to my office floor, and buying clothes is great nowdays.

I have showed you the method and result based on my experience. I'm not here to tell you what's right or wrong. It's up to you to decide what you want to do.

Oh finally I would like to stress this out : LISTEN TO YOUR BODY! (although I would like you to resist the evil temptations from your stomach, unless it starts to hurt)
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hey, are you having some problems with you posture or its just your style?
Why is it that your right shoulder is always higher than your left one? its like slanting to one side.
and my comment to your weight loss; I think you should go and do more weightlifting or exercise to build back some muscle because too skinny is just not so nice in my opinion. No offense but just my 2 cents.

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QUOTE(jojoeljx @ Nov 11 2012, 12:25 AM)
<SKIP THIS IF YOU DONT WANNA READ MY STORY>

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<THE QUESTION STARTS HERE>
So, I want to achieve a better shape and tone before 2013 comes.
My weight : 54KG (I have a layered stomach to be honest)
Height: 156CM

PS: I have a slight asthma. It's not really serious anyway smile.gif

I want to lose about 5-8KG in 2 months, if it is possible.
Plus, I also want to have an abs like Jenna Marbles too! (The abs is not really necessary actually)

I don't have anyone to ask in real life about this.
And I never even tried to lost weight before, this is my first time.
So, I really have no clue on where to start and what to do.

Anyway, can anyone please advice me on what should I do for my exercise? My eating diet?
Daily routine or anything that is important?
Please.
And I'm truly sorry if I annoys you with this or you don't understand what I said sad.gif

Thank you ><
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look at alien9's siggy, it provides you the basic info about nutrition and how to calculate it.
most important is your diet, followed by training. smile.gif I think 5kg around 2 months is possible, with proper food and everything.


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you're falling into the skinny fat category.



This post has been edited by TechnoG: Nov 11 2012, 09:37 PM

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