not familiar with melaka at all sorry.

im a kl person ^^;

Im using a pair of Focal Utopia line. Its the best when it comes to SQ. Im using an Alpine PDX 4.1 to power it. you can never go wrong with the Utopia line. =)

Hi,, Sifu, Sifu,

Just to check around on some technical thing about front component set. Is it must use the cross-over from the component set for a better sound.? I think my set don't come along and my installer put some condensor (Component looks like resister) at the wire to tweeter. what does this mean.?
Cause the installer tell me not to use the cross-over with component set and by using 4 channel amp to provide 2 channel to bass mid and 2 channel to tweeter will sound more better.? Is it true.?

he is running a semi active bi-amp setup.
2ch to drive tweeter via a simple 6db xover with attenuation(cap n resistor)
2ch to drive mid via either amp xover or HU proc(not sure as u didnt state)

most important the 2ch driving the mid must have a bandpass filter(HP & LP filter).
generally around 70Hz(HP) - 2500Hz(LP) if ur running juz LP and full range throughout without HP filter, then ur drivers will usually damage in the long run.

pro's without having a HP on mids - midbass damn keng!!(one of the way to cheat saying this mids is damn keng!!..hehe)

This post has been edited by carcrazy: Sep 4 2012, 06:01 PM

Yeah,, Got it but abit bluff on the HU "Proc" means what.? My HU is Kenwood U453 arr,, cheap 1. and the Amp have Hp & LP as well on both channel.

proc = processor
some HU built with basic proc functions, but premium models have much more functions

make sure the HP n LP can be turn on at the same time. cause some built in can only select either one filter. so end up its not a bandpass

Anyone know what happened to Pro Auto Acc in Taman Mayang? Their signboard down + roller shutter down for a few days already, have they moved?

Halloo,,, hallooo,,

I'm a newbie and have join in the ICE club. Can I check out something see whether you guys can help or suggest anything bohhh below..??

My stuff
*6.5" component set w/o passive crossover x1
*4 ch 1200W amp x1
*2ch 2ohm 2000W amp monoblock x1
*12" woofer & vented box x1 (Square box with 85mm diameter & 8" long of tubing hole) should be standard ready made purchase
*Pre-amp 4 band x1 (just bought)


My ride: Proton Iswara
My Prefer: SQ/SQL
File format: CD/Radio/USB
Genre of music: All kind of music


1) I'm using Kenwood U435 HU, what is the default setting on the HU to set if want to tuning the sound from amp.?

2) Is the HU LOUDNESS need to OFF or put it to highers setting when tuning the amp.?

3) Does it really need for a passive crossover for the component set is compulsory.?

4) A pre-amp or Active crossover (E-Crossover) which is better or both needed if want to have a good sound system

5) Can I bridge the amp from 4ch to 2ch to boost the component set (since I already have 4ch and only a single set of component used) and the bridged monoblock to hit the 12" woofer as well.?

6) Will the sound affected if I do fiberglass and put the component set in front door.? and do some anger of 30 degree face up center position. Just to make it nicer look compare to the tweeter original place (left and right of windscreen below)

6) My woofer sound abit weird when listening to normal music/song (means no boom-boom or punching), the woofer seems like some air hohhhh,,hohhhh sound following the music tune. Is it the woofer bass sound not divided enough or really need a E-Crossover to make it better.?

Please correct me if my statement is not clear or wrong...

Cheers,,,

1) unless you're using mid/high end HUs, id suggest the EQs/tuning to be kept minimal/none

2) off, you don't want double (or more) amping to introduce noise unnecessarily

3) component sets will include a passive crossover (otherwise it will be called coaxial speakers, NOT component set speakers), it is compulsory in a passive setup to have proper frequency filtering. in an active setup, an additional cross over and/or processor/preamp will do the frequency filtering instead

4) crossover is typically better unless you're buying a really expensive pre-amp. additionally, consider upgrading the other items/components first before even thinking on processors/crossovers/preamp

5) not much point, there is only so much power a component set speakers can take until you fry them. not to mention if your amp isnt efficient/clean, you *may potentially* introduce additional noise into the speakers

6) if you're using cheap component set speakers, not much point. money is better spent upgrading the speakers

7) you need proper low frequency filtering to the woofer. if no bass should be played, the woofer should be kept quiet.

Hi, care to explain how is the situtation when the amp is not efficient/clean?
Coz my speakers seems to introduce some "shh shh" noise sometimes where i suspect is the amp problem.
Thanks.

that seems to be electrical noise as i have mentioned. Have you tried lowering the amp gains and see if the problem is resolved? if yes, then there you have it. if no, maybe it could be the HU (double amping as i mentioned) or other components (pre-amp?) that does it.

Yeah, something like electrical noise. Yes, have tried lower up the amp gain, problem still there.
I have no pre-amp in my car. But the amp is relatively old. I suspect it reach it's life span. Because previously nvr have such problem occur.

Kam Xiaaa,,, kam Xiaaaaa,,,,,

You really help me alot for deciding the rigth point,, if not I will go more far away and canot reach where I wanted to..

try take out the amp and/or use another amp to test. if it solves it, then we know wheres the culprit

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Added on September 7, 2012, 6:54 pmyou're welcome

This post has been edited by Quazacolt: Sep 7 2012, 06:54 PM

Hello Sifus,

i need help on setting up my ICE for my car

My ride:Toyota Corolla Ae100
Prefers SQ, but won't mind SQL
File format/medium used for my source:Usually mp3, usb and ipod
Music genre:No specific genre but usually electric and rock
Budget:About 1800
Setup type preferences: Not sure about the difference, read through some of the post available, still not clear bout the difference

your help is very much appreciated

if u dun have a good hu to start with, suggest u to get 1 first...if u already got a quite ok hu, then start with spk first....

choose and audit the speaker and compare side by side...then u will know which 1 to go for

Can u recommend me any good hu to start with? i'm thinking of getting the Pioneer DEH-5450SD? what about the speakers?

If your budget is there then pioneer 5450 is ok, or maybe alpine low end model.. But if ur budget higher, of course there is many better one.
Go for a good brand component speakers most importantly.

I'm thinking of using a monoblock amp to connect to a subwoofer, and a 2-channel amp to connect to component speakers. I saw this set up in another thread. Is it ok? Also, is a budget of 2k enough?

keep ur money well worth by buying quality stuff rather than spending it to buy make lousy stuff