Pardon me for going back on my words

Mind to show which part of the website which says/explains the 6% powerloss?

http://www.punchpowertrain.com/files/Docs/...VT2_CVT2010.pdf

over here it did not state any specific value.

Since when did i say anything about the ratios? i am doubting the powerloss that occurs as the power is trasfered from crank to the wheels, nothing to do with the way it works.

Dont worry, this is my last post here, it seems questioning info is a big taboo here, as u will be called a keyboard warrior.

No harm done mat79, i do believe some forumers may gain some info over it. As i said earlier, i agree to be disagreed. i do appreciate the info you are providing here, but being a consumer, it is good to analyse the info.

My apologies if i disturbed your thread.

This post has been edited by ckk125: Apr 1 2012, 06:56 AM

P3 == German Auto Engineering at its best from Director of BMW 300 Series Award winning Car

p3-21a?award?mind explaining more?

guys see this... those who say Preve's interior looks so boring.. .check out this latest BMW F30 3 series interior

http://paultan.org/2012/03/30/bmw-f30-3-se...play/dsc_0274b/

preve's dashboard look boring mainly because current cars has digital aircond lcd panel, just like the one u posted, while preve stuck with the old turning knob like the inspira which make it looks simpler and outdated..and the separated 3 knobs arrangement is really outdated..some cars like korean they design it to be like 2 knobs on top of another which make it a bit better..

This post has been edited by megat89: Apr 1 2012, 10:54 AM

no la, preve interior reference from this car

http://image.motortrend.com/f/8441836+w750..._X+interior.jpg

Are they going to delay the launch again?

if u read carefully, i mentioned it is in punch website BEFORE. its not in the pdf technical data. It on the front page on previous punchpowertrain website with old theme for the website. Already following the website since late 2009 coz i know cvt from punch is one of the options.

Questioning is not taboo, it just i felt that the question raised due to prtn coz i think i rarely@neverheard the same question arised in other makes before, maybe im wrong. Maybe dont read enough in other makes forum.By the way, where do u get the 11.5scnd city century sprint? And where do u get data on 20% on trans lost in at honda? Do u get it from honda?

By the way,its not my thread. Just drop by to share some infos. Just mere visiting. For me, no harm done, u can call me what u want to call, do whatever u want :-), but others, i think a little damage had done.

In reality, pretty hard to gauge any powerloss consistently, so, engineers just do what the best they can do n opt the best that they can opt.

Its funny that renault megane get more nm of torque n same hp during dyno when compare it with power from engine crank which issued by renault themselves. Not even transmission loss, and it has transmission power gain. How could this happened? Renault want to undervalue its engine power in brochure??? Nope, any manufacturer in the world would like to boost the figure in brochures.

The same questions shud ask why hybrid terrain prefer cvt than at and some opt for manual. But why not prius opy for manual if cvt is pretty bad than manual?

The never ending questions will raised also why not others like vw blue motion not opt for cvt, just opt for manual?

But the question wont raise coz its vw n toyota for godsake.

The same as when toyota introduce avanza with less power than previous gen coz meeting euro 4, but diff answer for alza by perodua engineers coz they mentioned the reduce power of alza engine compare to previous avanza is due avanza rear wheel drive, alza front wheel. Avanza need more power to go, alza no need too much.
But in the end, toyota introduce it this year, same engine n same powerloss with alza, but diff reason.

Nobody questioned that before coz its a big T. Not a small p.

Still wondering where u get city century sprint officially from honda stated 11.5 scnd coz its not tally with other country same car, same weight century sprint.

Yaa mat79, those questions will never ends..kindly rest this case please. However, any constructive discussions or 'inside' infos are most welcome...hehe

This post has been edited by izputra: Apr 1 2012, 11:41 AM

so mat79, any news on the launch date, this week maybe?

rumors said... push to 14 April.

this time is hyundai is trying to delay proton launch

lol... still waiting the 'authority' to approve price for P3 kot...

i think it will be launched on may. Najib is busy preparing the next GE. even want to launch on september after GE also i got no problem.

This post has been edited by sp3d2: Apr 1 2012, 12:00 PM

Jangan nak busy sangat sampai Anwar yang nanti lancarkan

yes. if too busy to launch the car, wait for anwar to launch. just becoz one person the whole malaysian look like idiot waiting for him.

The person who more idiot is the people behind Proton who still think the presence of PM is necessary. I don't feel sorry for them when all the information leaked before the launch date. They have their own self to blame right now.

This post has been edited by ruffstuff: Apr 1 2012, 12:06 PM

Today curi curi launch liao.

Happy April fool day, they say.

Oh no..again? Hopefully it's just a rumor. Why dont they just launch it..everything is ready to date & info also leaking everywhere..the earlier the merrier..lol

This post has been edited by izputra: Apr 1 2012, 12:27 PM

launch it only when the spec become outdated already. hahaha. then we can get lower price also. hahah