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DarkTenno
post Feb 4 2015, 12:35 PM

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QUOTE(KLKS @ Feb 4 2015, 12:31 PM)
ship them with tracking number.
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problem with those ebay sellers when I asked to ship with tracking they always say it expensive even thought I already said I willing to pay the shipping cost and yet normally they will just ignore my request and end up getting 2 star for my feedback tongue.gif
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QUOTE(DarkTenno @ Feb 4 2015, 12:35 PM)
problem with those ebay sellers when I asked to ship with tracking they always say it expensive even thought I already said I willing to pay the shipping cost and yet normally they will just ignore my request and end up getting 2 star for my feedback tongue.gif
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Time to switch to aliexpress smile.gif
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post Feb 4 2015, 12:49 PM

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QUOTE(KLKS @ Feb 4 2015, 12:40 PM)
Time to switch to aliexpress smile.gif
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haha funny you mention it did order 1 last week seller didnt ship within 7 days order already canceled by aliexpress doh.gif ! my search for capacitive sensor continueee! brows.gif
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post Feb 4 2015, 01:39 PM

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Capacity sensor eh? I will try to read about it. Thanks for the info. biggrin.gif
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post Feb 4 2015, 01:43 PM

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capacitive not capacity it 2 different thing tongue.gif
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post Feb 4 2015, 02:32 PM

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QUOTE(jamminc @ Feb 3 2015, 04:23 PM)
This is wonderful.  Spent the whole day reading learnt so much on 3D printing.  Count me in... looking to get one for some fun and printing.  Will continue to do my research and update if I actually take the plunge.  smile.gif
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Glad to hear more people are interested in Reprap and 3D printers. thumbup.gif thumbup.gif thumbup.gif

QUOTE(DarkTenno @ Feb 4 2015, 09:55 AM)
converted my mendelmax 1.5 to something diffrent, still need to recalibrate Z and bed leveling my inductive sensor decide to fail on me so have to manually level the bed now  vmad.gif, changed the heated to aluminum heatbed but I can't get the dam thing to heat up too 110c, I only able to heat it up to 80c never go beyond that I'm using 12v 30A power supply and only heating the bed my extruder have no problem getting to 230c smile.gif seem the printer does not want to print ABS just yet  cry.gif

plus last week the green ramps connector melted on me, I always see warning about the connector melting and I see it first hand smile.gif, and any idea on the heat bed, don't really want to install back my mk2a heat bed to test lol
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You may want to get a separate solid state switch and a dedicated power supply for your Heater bed because the controller board is not meant to take in very high currents ( more than 10 A) at one time. The melted green connector indicate the connector is not designed for such currents and I have mentioned before that it is not recommended to directly connect the heater bed to the controller board and instead to be safe, use the heat bed output to control a high current solid state switch that regulates the heater bed power.

I bought a 28A solid state switch a while ago but have not have the time to buy a dedicated power supply for it yet. I was planning to use a 250W computer PSU as the power source but It didn't work as expected due to the over current safety kicking in every time I power the heat bed.

You could use the IRF3808 transistor but you should not tap power from the controller board and instead hook the power supply directly to the transistor source lead. Also, separating the transistor from the board and having it on its own heat sink will be a safer choice.

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post Feb 4 2015, 02:35 PM

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I have a SSR with a pid controller but never got a chance to use it smile.gif,

nope I really mean capacitive, inductive sensor can't detect glass but capacitive sensor can detect glass work same way as inductive sensor just different material can be detected, if we going to print on glass definitely need a capacitive sensor instead of inductive
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QUOTE(DarkTenno @ Feb 4 2015, 02:43 PM)
capacitive not capacity it 2 different thing tongue.gif
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Opppsss! That is a typo for sure! tongue.gif
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QUOTE(altan @ Feb 4 2015, 03:32 PM)
You may want to get a separate solid state switch and a dedicated power supply for your Heater bed because the controller board is not meant to take in very high currents ( more than 10 A) at one time. The melted green connector indicate the connector is not designed for such currents and I have mentioned before that it is not recommended to directly connect the heater bed to the controller board and instead to be safe, use the heat bed output to control a high current solid state switch that regulates the heater bed power.

I bought a 28A solid state switch a while ago but have not have the time to buy a dedicated power supply for it yet. I was planning to use a 250W computer PSU as the power source but It didn't work as expected due to the over current safety kicking in every time I power the heat bed.

You could use the IRF3808 transistor but you should not tap power from the controller board and instead hook the power supply directly to the transistor source lead. Also, separating the transistor from the board and having it on its own heat sink will be a safer choice.
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Somehow this heatbed problem looks similar to mine.
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QUOTE(eehtsitna @ Feb 4 2015, 03:35 PM)
Somehow this heatbed problem looks similar to mine.
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really? I'm gonna ditch the mosfet fixing going to go with relay method smile.gif I think I bought a solid state relay for my filament extruder project need to check if it DC or AC tongue.gif
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QUOTE(DarkTenno @ Feb 4 2015, 04:40 PM)
really? I'm gonna ditch the mosfet fixing going to go with relay method smile.gif I think I bought a solid state relay for my filament extruder project need to check if it DC or AC  tongue.gif
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Yup. I hooked up the heatbed to my RAMPS. Once i powered it up and raise the temperature, the MOSFET gets too hot and start burning some plastic component on the RAMPS. That happens right after i complete building my printer so you can imagine my reaction back then. blink.gif ohmy.gif shocking.gif
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QUOTE(eehtsitna @ Feb 4 2015, 03:52 PM)
Yup. I hooked up the heatbed to my RAMPS. Once i powered it up and raise the temperature, the MOSFET gets too hot and start burning some plastic component on the RAMPS. That happens right after i complete building my printer so you can imagine my reaction back then.  blink.gif ohmy.gif  shocking.gif
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ah most probably I have a broken mosfet, I better dig out my relay collection ASAP biggrin.gif

UPDATE:

the Mosfet definitely not making my day, I still can print PLA but not ABS for now the mosfet temp measured 100c while heating the bed to 70C! found my SSR but unfortunately it a DC-AC not DC-DC

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Just curious, what combination of G-Code generator, Host software and firmware are you guys using? Any recommendation on which combination is best for a beginner?
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post Feb 4 2015, 10:59 PM

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QUOTE(jamminc @ Feb 4 2015, 10:47 PM)
Just curious, what combination of G-Code generator, Host software and firmware are you guys using?  Any recommendation on which combination is best for a beginner?
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The proper term for G-code generator is slicer. I am using Cura 14 as the slicer and the host software is Octoprint on the Raspberry Pi.

IMO, easiest slicer and host to use is Cura and Pronterface (now called Printrun for the GUI version).

Other known slicers out there: Slic3r (Tons of parameters to play with) and KisSlicer.

Other host: Repetier Host and Makerware (works for makerbots only)

Firmware is a bit difficult to determine for my printer but as far as I know, it should be a heavily modified Marlin for the Printrboard Rev D.

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post Feb 5 2015, 08:19 AM

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I'm using repetier host with cura/slic3r
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QUOTE(KLKS @ Feb 5 2015, 08:19 AM)
I'm using repetier host with cura/slic3r
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same here repetier host with cura/slic3r, for firmware I'm using marlin on my prusa i3 and T-mendel my Large Kossel (yes large I have 300mm print bed biggrin.gif) using repetier firmware brows.gif

take note most of the 3d printer firmware are based on Sprinter + grbl which a pretty common name in CNC world smile.gif

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post Feb 5 2015, 02:01 PM

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QUOTE(altan @ Feb 4 2015, 10:59 PM)
The proper term for G-code generator is slicer. I am using Cura 14 as the slicer and the host software is Octoprint on the Raspberry Pi.

IMO, easiest slicer and host to use is Cura and Pronterface (now called Printrun for the GUI version).

Other known slicers out there: Slic3r (Tons of parameters to play with) and KisSlicer.

Other host: Repetier Host and Makerware (works for makerbots only)

Firmware is a bit difficult to determine for my printer but as far as I know, it should be a heavily modified Marlin for the Printrboard Rev D.
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Have you dumped the eeprom settings using M503 and comparing it to stock? I know the repetier-firmware has alot of setting that is saved in eeprom
http://reprap.org/wiki/G-code#M503:_Print_settings


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DarkTenno
post Feb 5 2015, 02:09 PM

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QUOTE(KLKS @ Feb 5 2015, 02:01 PM)
Have you dumped the eeprom settings using M503 and comparing it to stock? I know the repetier-firmware has alot of setting that is saved in eeprom
http://reprap.org/wiki/G-code#M503:_Print_settings
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printrbot still using marlin with modification to work on printrbot controller board plus some improvement on the working code such as the auto-leveling and stuff

https://github.com/Printrbot/Marlin

AFAIK only printrbot to date extensively using auto-leveling with inductive sensor and they are so confident with it,if you notice most printrbot have no ability to adjust the bed manually (so what I heard) maybe altan can chine in he own one smile.gif

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post Feb 5 2015, 07:25 PM

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QUOTE(DarkTenno @ Feb 5 2015, 02:09 PM)
printrbot still using marlin with modification to work on printrbot controller board plus some improvement on the working code such as the auto-leveling and stuff

https://github.com/Printrbot/Marlin

AFAIK only printrbot to date extensively using auto-leveling with inductive sensor and they are so confident with it,if you notice most printrbot have no ability to adjust the bed manually (so what I heard) maybe altan can chine in he own one smile.gif
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Regarding the firmware for Printrbot, apparently the firm ware is so heavily modified I can't just simply load it onto a Ramps 1.4-Mega and hook it up to the Printerbot just like that. I tried it the last time and it was a big headache to get everything setup properly and in the end the auto bed leveling feature doesn't work with the Ramps 1.4-Mega controller board.

The manual bed adjustment would be redundant as the auto bed leveling code will cancel out any adjustment to the bed and carry out the print based on the 3 point plane estimation. The only thing I need to manually adjust is the hotend tilt level with regards to the probe which is something I find annoying because the angle of where the nozzle points is not taken into account in the auto bed leveling. In other words, what happen was my hotend and probe carriage frame is slightly bent out of shape so I find that the nozzle height is different for the three probe points. I have to someday try and bend the frame back so it is level with the induction probe.

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Thanks for the feedback.. looks like many things to read up on. rclxub.gif

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