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post Apr 12 2014, 12:22 PM

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Hi everyone, I didn't know this topic existed under my nose all this time until I did a recent search.

Since there are Repraps in Malaysia & Singapore, I am now trying to compile a list of distributors or outlets that provide parts for Repraps in Malaysia and Singapore, the non-printed bits like ball bearings, GT2 belting, linear rods, Arduino, and etc. So if anyone knows a place or two to get these parts at affordable prices, please do share with us in this topic.

In case anyone need Reprep parts, especially the printed plastic bits, I am starting a 3D printing service for Reprap parts once I get my 3D printer by end of April. Please do PM me for 3D printing pricing and etc. My prices are affordable and I charge on a base price + material per gram.

If you need assistance in troubleshooting Reprap printing issues, I am the guy to ask since I have been tinkering and maintaining several reprap for at least a year. PM me for advice.

Cheers.
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post Apr 27 2014, 10:42 AM

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QUOTE(cha.968 @ Apr 27 2014, 09:16 AM)
Hi, guys

What do you think this 3d-printer from Malaysia? Is RM6,900 worth?

Malaysia's first 3D printer maker targeting 1,000 units per month production

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VAGLER International, a Swedish-Malaysian 3D printer manufacturer has just launched its online shop for Malaysia and Singapore markets.

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It seems that the manufacturing of high end industrial sets of 3D printers have finally arrived at Malaysia shores. These things are supposed to be catered to the general public but the price tag seem to be aimed for industries and education centers as the price tag suggested is considered miniscule to them. It was probably design to compete with Makerbot as the specs claimed to be way better than Makerbot Replicator 2. Although the 50 micron layer resolution is a bit of an overstatement as most general prints works fine at 100 microns while saving half the time spent printing. Its better than Makerbot Replicator 2 in terms of build volume but the space efficiency isn't that great while the printer outer dimensions suggest its not very desktop friendly either.

It obviously doesn't look open source from the closed box design and unknown propriety electronics used in that printer. Normally with any non open source devices, these things tend to me a lot more pricier when it comes to keeping it maintained and especially when it breaks down as you cannot fix it on the spot without voiding the warranty. Besides, owning one of these means having to be tied to the company just for the replacement parts and repairs.

Anyway its too soon to judge the printer and company service performance solely on prints made by a single unit, I will just wait it out and look into reviews about this printer.
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post May 12 2014, 11:29 AM

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QUOTE(sstang998 @ May 9 2014, 07:48 PM)
I Wonder is there anyone did try or test the RepRap Mendel Prusa i2 b4. I am new in with this as my printer will be arrive within this few days.
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Welcome to the reprap club, I have not tried out the prusa but its has been around for a long while and has been continuously improved on by many users. I assume you are getting an unassembled kit so you might want to go online and read up on assembling it and also follow some YouTube tutorials on 3d printing.

I don't want to sound discouraging but getting a reprap is a frustrating journey unless you find joy spending countless of hours tinkering with it just to get a decent print.

If you need help assembling or advice, you can pm me anytime.

Good luck tinkering. thumbup.gif
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post Jun 10 2014, 07:00 PM

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QUOTE(DarkTenno @ Jun 5 2014, 02:50 PM)
Hello guys, late into the game but they say better late then nothing smile.gif got my mendelmax kits from blomker full build log is on my blog

http://mylinux.net.my/blog/2014/05/26/blom...uildlog-part-1/
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Nice blog and congrats on your first build! I am surprised there are more vendors in Malaysia providing kits for the Mendel and Prusa.
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post Jun 11 2014, 02:18 PM

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QUOTE(DarkTenno @ Jun 11 2014, 12:24 PM)
the more the merrier they said, still playing around with mine, print ok but some stringing/ozzing issues after updated my ramps to the latest marlin, need to do some calibration on the extruder

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There are a few ways to solve stringing and oozing problems during prints.

First of all, you have to find the optimum set temp during print of the nozzle for your hotend which allows continuous uninterrupted extrusion and low oozing problems. For mine, I have set the initial first layer temp to 220 Deg C so I have reliable adhesion to the bed (non heated bed), then bring down the temp to 190 Deg after the first layer. For your case , you might try to warm the bed to 50 deg and print 190 through out the print.

Secondly, after having another look at the the pictures of your hotend setup, if not mistaken, I can guess you have the fan pointing towards the PEEK section of your J-Head hotend. To solve the stringing issue/oozing issue, you might want to get another 12v fan or try to lower and tilt the existing fan towards the nozzle end. This is to allow rapid cooling of the extruded PLA when it is in contact with the print. Also, this helps with bridging, i.e. forming a bridge or mid air crossover between two section of a print. You might want to get a fan shroud from thingiverse, http://www.thingiverse.com/tag:fan_shroud to focus the air flow towards the nozzle.

Oozing normally occurs when warming up the hotend but if its happening during prints then another way is to adjust the retraction rate in the slicer to minimize oozing. Stringing between gaps in prints is also affected by the retraction rate but these strings can be easily removed after the prints have complete.

QUOTE(DarkTenno @ Jun 11 2014, 12:24 PM)

btw any tips to switch bettween PLA and ABS for printing? need to print some ABS part for my printer
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As for ABS, I have not tried ABS yet but from what I know, it is going to stink up your whole house with the smell of burning plastic. The hotbed temp has to be higher, about 100 deg and hotend should be about 220 deg for ABS but there are values recommended by ABS filament suppliers and you may have to adjust them around those values to work with your printer. Warping for ABS is a really big issue if your hotbed isn't set correctly but you can solve warping by turning on Brim support in your slicer.

Its good that there are people who can thinker and play around with their 3D printers as this is one of the ways to learn and master the technology. thumbup.gif

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post Jun 11 2014, 05:24 PM

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QUOTE(DarkTenno @ Jun 11 2014, 02:28 PM)
mine not Jhead it a Mk7 + metal magma not using PEEK it have a alu heatshink, try to find a suitable fans shroud but most of them can't fit mine hotend, seem mine a bit short compare to normal Jhead
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My bad, in part 2 of your blog the picture showing the washer placed on the hotend inlet looks like a J-head with a PEEK insulator from the back, there wasn't an pic of the hotend for my reference. You may have to custom model a shroud that fits your system and likely make an attachment for the shroud.

QUOTE(DarkTenno @ Jun 11 2014, 02:28 PM)
currently I'm printing PLA only and I'm printing at 180c now (was 190c befoe) and I keep my bed at 55c all the time + PVA glue solution, maybe I can go lower but haven't tested it yet, with 180c stringing still quite visible, but so far I don't see any problem with bridging as I just printed a kossel mini part yesterday came out great just the oozing problem kinda annoy me biggrin.gif

I will try lowering the temp more and increase the retract speed of my extruder
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Your current set temperature of 180 is very low for PLA, anymore lower can cause your extruder drive to slip or eat into your filament because the PLA filament can't melt lower than 170 and can lead to more problems. Also, having the nozzle temp too low will cause delamination issues as the extruded PLA does not stick to the previous layer. I recommend changing the retraction speed instead as the first solution then implement a cooling fan for the extrusion.

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post Jun 11 2014, 11:05 PM

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QUOTE(DarkTenno @ Jun 11 2014, 10:52 PM)
ok this what it look like when printing with 40mm/s retract speed on slic3r

10% infill 0.3 layer 2 perimeter

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but at least bridging are perfect from my eye biggrin.gif, will try to increase the speed until i can't increase it anymore  laugh.gif
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Try increasing retraction length to about 3 mm or so. The speed and length are two important parameters which complements one another. The speed tells the extruder how fast to pull it back while the length tells it how far to pull the filament back.My settings for retraction are, speed 40 mm/s and length 3.5 mm. Hope this helps.

Here is one of my recent prints with... well... no stringing tongue.gif . p.s. there it one string at the very top most layer.
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post Jun 12 2014, 01:20 PM

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QUOTE(DarkTenno @ Jun 12 2014, 12:50 PM)
finally!

magic number was 100mm/s speed with 3mm retract length  rclxms.gif
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rclxm9.gif  rclxm9.gif

I need a new x-carriage but I don't have ABS and never try to print abs before lol
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Congrats, you can now get very nice prints. icon_rolleyes.gif

You could try printing replacement parts in PLA for now but you might have to reinforce the joints or thicken certain parts to make it mechanically strong. I recommend printing at 0.1 mm for better lamination strength and at 50% or more fill to strengthen the part. I have printed gears and chains using PLA and so far it is mechanically strong. I don't recommend heavy loads or anything that an create a strong shock to the part. An example is a Z axis coupler I made for my printer in thingiversebecause my printer came with a broken aluminum coupler so have to design and print on another printer using PLA. I am still using it till today and also slowly improving on the design as well.

If you don't mind mixing different materials with your existing hotend then you could get an ABS reel and try it out and let us know more about it.
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post Jun 12 2014, 01:41 PM

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QUOTE(DarkTenno @ Jun 12 2014, 01:29 PM)
PLA is strong only problem is not sure it can stand the heat for long period of time smile.gif, plus my current x-carriage make my servo poking outward and can't really cover wide bed surface for auto leveling smile.gif, but at least it work for now no longer need to do bed adjustment smile.gif, now just need more stuff to print biggrin.gif

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Looks like you are printing either Kossel or Rostock part. I have a completed printing all the parts for a mini Rostock but don't have the non-palastic bits to complete the build. sweat.gif

If heat is your concern for PLA then you could also look into new materials like Proto-pasta high temperature PLA. I know a supplier who suggested me this material but heat isn't an issue for me so far. I have not tried this material yet but from what I understand is normal PLA would soften and may deform when placed in a car under a hot sun but this material claims it should not soften or deform at all.
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post Jun 12 2014, 02:16 PM

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QUOTE(DarkTenno @ Jun 12 2014, 01:53 PM)
I'm printing kossel and combination of rostock part for my 20x20 kossel mini build, I just wanted to finish up my 1st spool of PLA I have 3 spool ordered already smile.gif
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Even if you have finished printing the plastic bits for the Kossel, I am sure enough you have to complete the build with the non printable parts. Do you know any vendor that provides extruded aluminum frame and linear rods? I seem to be having a hard time finding any supplier in KL or PJ area.
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post Jun 12 2014, 02:35 PM

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QUOTE(DarkTenno @ Jun 12 2014, 02:19 PM)
I can source some in puchong smile.gif 20x20 not sure they have 15x15 or not but my plastic part are for 20x20 aluminium extrusion compare to the original kossel mini that use 15x15 openbeam

or can refer to this guy listing smile.gif

http://cetak3d.blogspot.de/p/s.html

I'm building his Kossel alt btw
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Thanks for the link, he has a good list of suppliers. Its a good decision to go for the 20x20 aluminium frame as its a more common size and the extra weight can help in the long run. I may want to try making that one day and a few others too. smile.gif
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post Jun 13 2014, 12:24 AM

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QUOTE(QwikFab @ Jun 12 2014, 11:07 PM)
This is a late entry and I do apologise as we are often caught up with prototyping, researching and developing new technologies that we miss out on sharing with the community on what we've been up to!

We recently unveiled the first few large 3D printed objects that came fresh off their prototype 3D printer 'Beast' to display the potential of 3D printing and practicality in art, industrial, commercial it's endless applications and possibilities. The printer can print about 30cm by 30cm by 60cm on dual extruders. As we all know, using dual extruders mean smaller build volume and that is something that people often don't reveal and let you realise on your own.

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I was just wondering about dual extruders, won't the doubled weight from the hotend and direct drive stepper motor lead to a much reduced printing speed, say less than 40 mm/s, as the weight would cause severe backlashing at high printing speeds. I know the solution to this is to implement bowden drive but the print quality would severely degrade with the length of the bowden tube while the high hotend temp would lead to poor bridging and slope formation.
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post Jun 13 2014, 12:31 AM

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QUOTE(DarkTenno @ Jun 12 2014, 11:07 PM)
Thanks, That what I decided to do, sourcing a new hotend and printing a direct drive extruder, now I just need to find a local vendor selling 1.75mm ABS hotend smile.gif, stepper motor & http://3dprinter.my/, to bad they only have 3mm hotend, my ABS filament 1.75mm just arrive but due to bad packing plastic vacuum wrap punctured  vmad.gif hope it will last before I got the chance to use it
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By the way, I have ordered some china clone J-head hotends with 0.3 mm nozzle for 1.75 mm filament and direct drive. They should arrive by the end of the month. It comes unassembled but I can easily assemble it with cartridge, kapton and thermistor for you. Assembly is free of charge, just have to pay for the parts. If you are interested and can wait till it arrives, you can PM me for the price.
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post Jun 13 2014, 12:57 AM

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QUOTE(QwikFab @ Jun 13 2014, 12:43 AM)
That is true, more weight on the moving axises can cause backlashing and reduced printing speed. But if you've noticed in our video link above, for our 3D printer, we don't use rails typically used in consumer desktop or reprap based 3D printers. smile.gif

With regard to the issue of weight, lead screw driven 3D printers will benefit from the rigidity and is more suitable for carrying more weight e.g. multiple direct drive extruders when compared to using GT2 timing belts for reprap printers.

For the reasons you've already mentioned, bowden will come with many compromises for lowering weight and will also probably not be able to successfully print using flexible filaments as well.
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Since you have a rigid setup using some really thick rails, why don't you try the Kraken, the quad E3D extruder? I want to get that but its way out of my budget. tongue.gif

It will probably be a good try if your controller board comes with extra extruder, heater and thermistor connectors. biggrin.gif

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post Jun 13 2014, 01:00 PM

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QUOTE(DarkTenno @ Jun 13 2014, 03:23 AM)
not actually looking for dual extruder setup more to multiple extruder with quick release setup, there's is a thingverse quick release x-carriage for mendemax/prusa might as well try that for a change

thanks for the offer altan but I seen bad quality issues with those china hotend so I rather stay away from them for now, maybe I can ask blomker to hook me up with his hotend kinda liking it just the fact it a bit low profile (short)  for mendelmax x-carriage which make those fan shroud on thingverse are no usable with his hotend

bur nether the less I will pm either one of you if i have no other choice lol, nice to see this post are active again been dormant for quite a while now smile.gif
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Good to hear that this topic is somewhat active again. nod.gif

You can PM me anything for the hot end, I will be trying out this batch when it arrives and let you know if its worth the money I paid. Frankly, I have used these china made hotends on another 3D printer without knowing about it till a week ago when I was reading it in http://jheadnozzle.blogspot.sg/2013/11/is-j-head-real.html. So far, those hotend did fail several times due to the heater cartridge wire getting burnt out or the PTFE sleeving getting clogged with dirt. As for print quality, I found no problems with the final print.
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Another type of hotend you might want to try is the UBIS hotend by Printrbot as I am using it now on my 3D printer. Its a ceramic column hotend with a brass nozzle, doesn't need active cooling and the temp retention is quite good. Its really pricy but its worth it in case you need a more compact and quality hotend.
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post Jun 13 2014, 10:57 PM

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QUOTE(DarkTenno @ Jun 13 2014, 08:19 PM)
anyone know does jalan pasar sell micro switch for end stop? my X endstop decide to fail on me, it always triggered swapped the switch with Z same thing so confirm it the endstop problem

EDIT: turn out my bad soldering biggrin.gif resoldered and work fine lol  rclxms.gif
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Japan Pasar is my favourate place for small electronic components... They sells every type of electronic components, just bring the part and show them, they will probably have it in stock unless its an uncommon component. Micro switch is a common component just don't expect to get the exact switch for the printer.
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post Jun 20 2014, 10:58 AM

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QUOTE(DarkTenno @ Jun 20 2014, 10:30 AM)
I just got a batch of cheap PLA from ebay, even though physically look nice but cheap = crap, I have been printing small part since yesterday all my calibration for my previous PLA are useless, with this PLA I have to print at 220 if not I will get blockages/jamming, stringing issues are bad probably because the higher temperature I will need to tune my extruder retract again it seem

leason learn cheap stuff isn't always good biggrin.gif
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Thanks for sharing the cheapness of china PLA filaments, I was at one time tempted at purchasing some from china through ebay but I found that I can still get them cheaper locally. Also from reviews about filament quality, I do recommend if you can get PLA filaments from known suppliers who understand a quality product and have used them before. There are a few suppliers for filaments in Malaysia as well as Singapore and I would recommend you the suppliers in Singapore. By the way, its a matter of paying more for the sake of getting peace of mind and minimal worries when printing large prints. I am curious to find out what are the defects the china filaments have.

Regarding the jamming, the problem lies with the filament diameter consistency and the cross section shape, i.e oval instead of round. When the diameter of the filament exceed 1.9 mm, there is a good chance of jamming the extruder and I had experience that problem for a particular spool which I got for free. shakehead.gif The stringing cannot be avoided when printing at 220 deg because the molten filament is liquid enough to seep out of the nozzle even with retraction. I don't know if there are ways to shape the filament, or scrape the excess diameter down to 1.75 mm but if you want to utilize the spool to its full potential and minimizing failed prints then you should try smaller prints instead, less likely to fail a print.
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post Jun 20 2014, 02:18 PM

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QUOTE(DarkTenno @ Jun 20 2014, 02:05 PM)
well the it was like RM55 per spool tongue.gif, I guess learn it the hard way, yes I also think that the blockages are cause by the inconsistent of the filament diameter only way I know to fix this is shredding it and feed it to a filament extruder (if I have one), I will try to measure the filament size when I get home, where you source your filament? reprap.my only selling ABS I don't see they selling 1.75mm PLA, the guy on mudah have a minimum quantify of 5kg per-order which is too much for me biggrin.gif
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If you need a nearby local distributor, checkout @storm88 post http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=2862182, though I have not tried theirs yet, but If you need any below RM 100, then Qwikfab from Singapore supplies PLA filaments too. I bought some of their filaments but have not tried it yet as I was busy leasing my printer for some events but visually it looks good.

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post Jun 20 2014, 08:21 PM

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QUOTE(DarkTenno @ Jun 20 2014, 04:05 PM)
ok thanks will try looking around, or maybe I just get some PLA from blomker

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here is my measurement  of the PLA at random part of it vmad.gif

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This just proves the likelihood of the filament causing the extruder jams. shakehead.gif The average diameter for the china filaments are way above the average 1.75 mm diameter, the ideal average values for most extruders. If its consistently less than 1.75 mm, it is still acceptable but may have to adjust the filament diameter size in the slicer to get acceptable extrusion volume.
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QUOTE(DarkTenno @ Jun 23 2014, 05:23 PM)
do you have glow in the dark filament biggrin.gif, I looking for a spool need to print something for my daughter  thumbup.gif
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That's very thoughtful of you. rclxms.gif If you can try out some GID filaments, post up a pic and let us know how it goes.

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