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eehtsitna
post Jan 13 2015, 03:02 PM

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Hi guys!

Its good to know that there is a community here in lyn. Anyway, I am new to this 3D printing scene. I would like to get my hands on a DIY printer so is there any good recommendation from you guys?

Thanks in advance.
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post Jan 13 2015, 04:00 PM

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QUOTE(DarkTenno @ Jan 13 2015, 04:28 PM)
Welcome to the Club!

Prusa i3 - my personal experiance getting a kits and assmbling it only took 1 whole day biggrin.gif, configuring it will take another few hours, note I have configured few 3d printer before so software part was a breeze, first timer maybe will take a bit longer but still depends  rclxms.gif

Mendelmax 1.5 - is a good printer too need more time to assemble and it have a very sturdy frame  flex.gif

Kossel Mini - only if you are up for some challenging build and software calibration smile.gif  icon_rolleyes.gif

or if you have some money to burn there are a few other ready to print 3d printer like flashforge/CTS (makerbot 2 copycat)
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Thanks for the prompt reply. May i know the price range for those respective DIY printer you have mentioned earlier?

Thanks again.
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post Jan 15 2015, 08:56 AM

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Thanks for the recommendation guys.

Hunting those parts individually would be very difficult for me cause i am stationed in Sabah. It is going to take a lot of effort, time and money to get those parts from West Malaysia and ship it over to Sabah so I think my best option is to get a kit for now.

I have streamlined my option down to Kossel Mini and PRUSA i3. The PRUSA i3 seems to be few hundred more expensive than the Kossel Mini. I know the PRUSA i3 comes with a hotbed and not to mention that there is a lot of print space. Kossel Mini on the other hand comes with auto leveling probe so I assume its easier to calibrate it compare to the PRUSA i3.

Is there any other criteria i should consider before making a final decision for this purchase?

Thanks in advance.
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post Jan 15 2015, 10:25 AM

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QUOTE(cha.968 @ Jan 15 2015, 11:08 AM)
Hi, eehtsitna
You may consider the followings:
- Filament choice: if no heat bed, you might only able to print PLA only.
- No upgrade for dual extruder for two colors in future.
- Kossel mini have only 3 motor to control XYZ axis, of course cheaper prize.
When goes to fine tuning, you might not know which axis goes wrong mechanically.
Unless you are good in programming and know how to calibrate well using the probe.
As a comparison, Prusa i3 at least one stepper motor for each axis, when problem arise,
you will easily troubleshoot the problems.
- Size is a matter for beginner. You can print bigger size, mean you can tolerate/compromise with its bad accuracy.
As a beginner, you will easily upset when you cannot print small part nicely during the calibration process.
- Bigger size means more rigid. More rigidity means you could print a little bit faster and less troubles.
- Pay more for one stepper motor, heat bed, bigger size and rigidity and the most important is less troubles.

There are tons of PROS and CONS. As a beginner, just my personal advise, choose your printer wisely.
You might not agree above, you can choose Kossel mini, not a problem.
Or you might choose Prusa i3, and print parts of Kossel mini eventually...
The choice is yours.

Congrats to you, at least you make a great start in this new year! And welcome to the club...
You will spend lots of times to setup, calibrating, testing, fine-tuning, design, slicing, troubleshooting... etc.
Do enjoy ya!
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Thanks for the last push! I have decided to get the PRUSA i3. I guess the number of motors do play an important part with the overall performance of the printer.
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post Jan 15 2015, 10:28 AM

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QUOTE(DarkTenno @ Jan 15 2015, 11:17 AM)
the never ending journey of repraper tongue.gif, can make a whole movie out of it  laugh.gif  icon_idea.gif  thumbup.gif
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Thats the thing. This is going to be a long commitment and hopefully i dont give up on this mini project halfway through. Will be looking forward to all the seniors here for support. biggrin.gif
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post Jan 16 2015, 11:17 AM

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Hi guys!

Is there any reading material which I should go through while waiting for my kit to arrive? I have gone through the assembly manual numerous time and i think i should not have any issue with it. Is there any do's and dont's while assembling my printer?

Thanks in advance.
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post Jan 16 2015, 11:25 AM

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Hmmm... whats a thread lock? I thought acrylic should be quite sturdy and i was told that i should be careful with the printed parts instead. tongue.gif
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post Jan 19 2015, 08:20 AM

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Guys,

Thanks for the info. Going to spend some time reading while waiting for my kit to arrive. biggrin.gif
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post Jan 26 2015, 08:28 AM

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Morning guys!

I have finally managed to assemble my PRUSA i3 and get it to print but i have this very disturbing problem. The first time I switch on the printer, the RAMPS unit was producing white smoke! Yup! Scared the hell out of me. I switch off the printer immediately and found that the transistor which was hooked to the heatbed was the main culprit. It was too hot that it burned some plastic component near it. What i did was straighten the transistor so that it doesnt lean to any other component but looks like it is still too hot when its hooked up with the heatbed. When I unplug the heatbed from the RAMPS everything works fine.

Can anyone advice on what seems to be the issue here and what i should do about it???

Thanks in advance.
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post Jan 26 2015, 08:34 AM

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Managed to print a few stuff just for fun. 😝


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post Jan 26 2015, 10:44 AM

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QUOTE(feiming @ Jan 26 2015, 11:23 AM)
Is the thermistor working?
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I am not certain. There seems to be only 1 line on the graph for temperature measurement and it is for the hotend thermistor so i assumed the heatbed thermistor is not working.

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post Jan 26 2015, 11:34 AM

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QUOTE(feiming @ Jan 26 2015, 12:26 PM)
I think that could be the problem. It doesn't know the temperature and keep the power going
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Ah! I see! Will try to troubleshoot the thermistor tonight.
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post Jan 26 2015, 07:21 PM

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Guys! How do i config the print area around the center of the bed? I tried adjusting the home position but it seems like it doesnt work that way.

Thanks in advance.


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post Jan 26 2015, 08:35 PM

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QUOTE(sooyewguan @ Jan 26 2015, 09:09 PM)
Is your bed size setting correct during slicing ?
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Print area 200 x 200
Centre 100 x 100

That should be right.
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post Jan 27 2015, 08:33 AM

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I was told by a friend that some thermistor has polarity so i switch the polar and now it works! The heatbed is around 28C in room temperature so thats normal. Now i need to test out the resistance of the heatbed before proceeding to the RAMPS.

PS. Is it normal for PLA to leak out of the hotend?
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post Jan 27 2015, 08:41 AM

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QUOTE(altan @ Jan 26 2015, 03:52 PM)
Congrats on the assembly.  thumbup.gif

As for your heater bed issue, it could be a few things but I don't know you will have the tools to test the system. Anyway you should read this http://forums.reprap.org/read.php?219,169361,169361 since this has the same issue as your heater bed transistor overheating. You have to check the resistance in your heater bed to find the current draw for a 12 volt supply. I have a 8" x 8" MK2A heater bed and it has a resistance of about 1 to 2 ohms which means it will draw about 6 to 12 Amps, so your bed should be between these resistance ranges. Another thing to look for are the polyfuse, which are the flat light brown pieces (either shape as a disc or square) mounted next to the transistor. Make sure the plastic bit that got burnt isn't the fuse because the fuse may not work properly when damaged. If all else fails, it could be the transistor and you may have to try replacing it with a different one.
Try checking your heater bed connection and measure the resistance of the heater bed.
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Thanks for the advice! I will check on the MOSFET and polyfuses too. biggrin.gif
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post Jan 28 2015, 12:17 AM

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Sorry havent got used to a lot of terms and components.

Once again sorry for the dark picture. There is this piece of rectangle thing on the hotend. I guess its the heatsink for the hotend. Notice there are some dark substance on it?


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post Jan 28 2015, 01:13 PM

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QUOTE(altan @ Jan 28 2015, 01:30 AM)
No worries, you will eventually learn the terms and components while tinkering with your printer.  icon_rolleyes.gif

That is bad, I mean that dark substance on top the heater block indicates PLA leakage. This is usually due to the heater block coming loose when heated or the threading may have been compromised. One way to fix this is to tighten the connection between heater block and heat sink by using a spanner. Make sure to heat up the hotend to about 100 to 150 deg before attempting to unscrew or tighten the  connection because the PLA inside the hot end will make it difficult to unscrew or tighten. By the way, that should be a E3D hotend right?
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Yup thats a E3D hotend. Managed to fix this issue before i go to work. biggrin.gif

Will test it out and see if there is still any leakage when i get back home from work.
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post Jan 28 2015, 01:18 PM

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QUOTE(cha.968 @ Jan 28 2015, 07:37 AM)
Hi, eehtsitna don't mention it ("Sorry").
You got the right attitude to ask and learn.
altan are right too for the instruction.
You can search online for the detailed assembly guide to tighten the heater block.

For example:
http://wiki.e3d-online.com/index.php?title=E3D-v6_Assembly
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Thanks for the encouragement. In fact I would like to thank everyone here for their support and making this thread such a wonderful place for people like me to learn about 3D printing. biggrin.gif

Normally i would prefer to search for a solution in the net but its very difficult if you dont know the name of the thing which you are looking for. Thanks for the link! It is very helpful. Hopefully i didnt over tighten the heatbreak/heater block. tongue.gif

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post Jan 28 2015, 04:15 PM

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QUOTE(altan @ Jan 28 2015, 03:00 PM)
Appreciate the acknowledgement.  thumbup.gif I am also learning from you guys as well.

Normally I would look up in reprap.org for the names of the things or the terms but forums are still the best place to ask.

If for some reason the tightening fails, use one or two layers of PTFE/teflon tape or plumbers white tape to form a nice seal between the hole and thread.  biggrin.gif You can buy it off from any hardware store for a few ringgit.
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PTFE/teflon or plumber white tape? I thought those cant withstand high temperature. tongue.gif

Anyway, is there a way to prevent PLA from warping while on the glass print bed? Im printing without a heatbed for now since i dont want my house to be on fire yet. tongue.gif

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