Welcome Guest ( Log In | Register )

Bump Topic Topic Closed RSS Feed
192 Pages « < 30 31 32 33 34 > » Bottom

Outline · [ Standard ] · Linear+

 Nokia N9 - V03 - [Fluidity King For Nokia], Let~~~ SWIPE~~~ all~~~ the~~~ way~~~

views
     
zachary22_77
post Mar 8 2012, 05:07 PM

Enthusiast
*****
Senior Member
716 posts

Joined: Jun 2007
From: Kota Kinabalu, Sabah



QUOTE(Andy214 @ Mar 8 2012, 04:43 PM)
Oops, misunderstanding, hehehe.

Yea, it's not bad upgrade and actually if we don't look at it against other smartphone; It's actually very smooth and nice. They just need to loosen it a little, gives more flexibility to the user (such as file transfer), and some other minor issue, it could have satisfy many users (or can live with at least.).
As current, there're many complaints from past Nokia users, you can also read it in Nokia Malaysia Facebook, how frustrated they are after using Windows Phone. Some of them are long time Nokia users, and the ads and campaign on Nokia Windows Phone, they get one, the first experience is surely nice, smooth, fast, etc. but later they will start to feel the frustration due to the limitations and restrictions.
If they're iOS users, then maybe no as bad, but if they're Nokia Symbian users, it's kind of like a big impact, and all this is not mention or known to them before they made the purchase.

For file transfer, they can enable it in Picture Gallery, etc.
Example, when I'm viewing Picture, I choose "Share", but there's no Bluetooth option.
There is no file manager, so you can't share anything else. You're only allowed to see what you can see.
Even my friend use, he said he downloaded an excel file, but cannot find it anywhere; No idea where it went.

Anyway, I can just say, the Mango tasted sweet at first, but it's very sour after you taste it more. Though, there's still some sweetness (People Hub, Office Integration, Mail, Voice Command/Recognition/to Speech).
Next is whether it will really Tango or not, lol.

Sadly, right now, Windows Phone will be my 2nd last choice, the last being iPhone. The People Hub is really nice, but MeeGo also has it and it's still better.
*
Yeap, for current Symbian diehard fans, I definitely do not recommend WP to them unless they are ready for a big change.

Anyway, if & when WP supports NFC this file transfer thing will be solved. The USA Lumia 900 have NFC but rest of the world one do not. Unfortunately WP itself do not support NFC yet.

Oh ya, if you downloaded an excel or any office file from email, it'll be save automatically inside Office tile there.
eaglehelang
post Mar 8 2012, 05:12 PM

Regular
******
Senior Member
1,075 posts

Joined: Sep 2010
QUOTE(tonberry_ax @ Mar 8 2012, 04:38 PM)
Look wat lumia phone can do. Is Nokia showing us how they manage to limit & restrict WP functions?  doh.gif

The capability of MeeGo/Meamo community to bring out the N9 potential already put Nokia into shame.  bruce.gif
*
Not put Nokia to shame, put Elop to shame for all the tactics to restrict N9 release
Andy214
post Mar 8 2012, 05:13 PM

Look at all my stars!!
*******
Senior Member
3,308 posts

Joined: Nov 2004


QUOTE(zachary22_77 @ Mar 8 2012, 05:07 PM)
Yeap, for current Symbian diehard fans, I definitely do not recommend WP to them unless they are ready for a big change.

Anyway, if & when WP supports NFC this file transfer thing will be solved. The USA Lumia 900 have NFC but rest of the world one do not. Unfortunately WP itself do not support NFC yet.

Oh ya, if you downloaded an excel or any office file from email, it'll be save automatically inside Office tile there.
*
But not all device have NFC and maybe they also restrict it since they restrict bluetooth. But let's wait and see. Tango is said to support external storage? If yes, wonder how they control.

The excel seems not in the Office there, possibly the file did not save successfully or something; no idea as it was statement from my friend who tried the device.
nicholasbeh
post Mar 8 2012, 05:16 PM

Look at all my stars!!
*******
Senior Member
4,518 posts

Joined: Aug 2009
nfc?is it reli practical?a lot of phones still dun have nfc.
zachary22_77
post Mar 8 2012, 05:18 PM

Enthusiast
*****
Senior Member
716 posts

Joined: Jun 2007
From: Kota Kinabalu, Sabah



QUOTE(Andy214 @ Mar 8 2012, 05:13 PM)
But not all device have NFC and maybe they also restrict it since they restrict bluetooth. But let's wait and see. Tango is said to support external storage? If yes, wonder how they control.

The excel seems not in the Office there, possibly the file did not save successfully or something; no idea as it was statement from my friend who tried the device.
*
Well if WP properly support NFC & Microsoft mandate it, then I think no prob, all WP phones will be able to do it. Yeah heard Tango MIGHT support external storage. I also wonder how they'll control it. Maybe a sandbox folder that can be shared with apps, hopefully. This was an idea that was tested during iOS 3 but was dropped.

Well, that's where I found my excel file that I downloaded from an email. I think..... laugh.gif


Added on March 8, 2012, 5:20 pm
QUOTE(nicholasbeh @ Mar 8 2012, 05:16 PM)
nfc?is it reli practical?a lot of phones still dun have nfc.
*
Well it's not practical yet, but if enough devices have it then sure enough it's practical. I'm still having fun showing my colleagues how they can share pics around with their 701 & my N9 just by using NFC.

This post has been edited by zachary22_77: Mar 8 2012, 05:20 PM
nicholasbeh
post Mar 8 2012, 05:22 PM

Look at all my stars!!
*******
Senior Member
4,518 posts

Joined: Aug 2009
QUOTE(zachary22_77 @ Mar 8 2012, 05:18 PM)
Well if WP properly support NFC & Microsoft mandate it, then I think no prob, all WP phones will be able to do it. Yeah heard Tango MIGHT support external storage. I also wonder how they'll control it. Maybe a sandbox folder that can be shared with apps, hopefully. This was an idea that was tested during iOS 3 but was dropped.

Well, that's where I found my excel file that I downloaded from an email. I think.....  laugh.gif


Added on March 8, 2012, 5:20 pm

Well it's not practical yet, but if enough devices have it then sure enough it's practical. I'm still having fun showing my colleagues how they can share pics around with their 701 & my N9 just by using NFC.
*
808 got nfc not?the tab 7.7 dont have it.
zachary22_77
post Mar 8 2012, 05:32 PM

Enthusiast
*****
Senior Member
716 posts

Joined: Jun 2007
From: Kota Kinabalu, Sabah



QUOTE(nicholasbeh @ Mar 8 2012, 05:22 PM)
808 got nfc not?the tab 7.7 dont have it.
*
Yeap, 808 have NFC. You can check here
KennyKB
post Mar 8 2012, 06:27 PM

Regular
******
Senior Member
1,765 posts

Joined: Dec 2010
QUOTE(nicholasbeh @ Mar 8 2012, 04:00 PM)
clone which mean not cross platform?aiks.sad case.btw,its EXTREMELY SMOOTH after updated to pr1.2.smoother than so many dual core android devices out there.the rotation between landscape to portrait is so AMAZING even my sgs2 show some lags.i wonder y the fatass ditch this super fantastic os.....sad case.
*
Of course clone means it can work like Whatsapp and IM other Whatsapp users. Otherwise what is the point of hacking Whatsapp API? There are plenty of IM apps which can run on N9. The whole purpose is to bring Whatsapp unofficially to N9 because the company refused to do a port.
KennyKB
post Mar 8 2012, 06:31 PM

Regular
******
Senior Member
1,765 posts

Joined: Dec 2010
QUOTE(zachary22_77 @ Mar 8 2012, 05:07 PM)
Yeap, for current Symbian diehard fans, I definitely do not recommend WP to them unless they are ready for a big change.

Anyway, if & when WP supports NFC this file transfer thing will be solved. The USA Lumia 900 have NFC but rest of the world one do not. Unfortunately WP itself do not support NFC yet.

*
It's not a matter of supporting NFC. The whole design philosophy of Microsoft is to prevent any file transfer which bypass Zune. Unless this design philosophy change NFC or bluetooth is not going to help.
KennyKB
post Mar 8 2012, 08:22 PM

Regular
******
Senior Member
1,765 posts

Joined: Dec 2010
QUOTE(Upsilon @ Mar 8 2012, 03:59 PM)
wifi scanner is around, search for wifik @ TMO
Wifik doesn't work at the moment.

QUOTE(Upsilon @ Mar 8 2012, 03:59 PM)
erm... kamasutra..... there should a wiki for that, browse through the browser? *sarcasm*
*
save your sarcasm, I was just making a joke.
pikacu
post Mar 8 2012, 11:53 PM

male tag rosak
*******
Senior Member
7,740 posts

Joined: Jun 2006
From: Some Yih


Bugzilla harmattan closed for new submission bug sad.gif

luckily I manage to post this bugs, please vote it guys biggrin.gif

wifi hotspot in infrastructure mode : https://harmattan-bugs.nokia.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1033
nicholasbeh
post Mar 9 2012, 02:39 AM

Look at all my stars!!
*******
Senior Member
4,518 posts

Joined: Aug 2009
wifi hotspot on n9.i still haven't try it since day 1 get n9.will try it next week.
zachary22_77
post Mar 9 2012, 07:25 AM

Enthusiast
*****
Senior Member
716 posts

Joined: Jun 2007
From: Kota Kinabalu, Sabah



QUOTE(KennyKB @ Mar 8 2012, 06:31 PM)
It's not a matter of supporting NFC. The whole design philosophy of Microsoft is to prevent any file transfer which bypass Zune. Unless this design philosophy change NFC or bluetooth is not going to help.
*
NFC is meant to solve easy sharing of pics without needing to go online. They are going to cut out Zune after Tango. The main reason why they don't allow you to access file system directly is simple, prevent piracy.


Added on March 9, 2012, 7:31 am
QUOTE(nicholasbeh @ Mar 9 2012, 02:39 AM)
wifi hotspot on n9.i still haven't try it since day 1 get n9.will try it next week.
*
Wifi hotspot works very well, I use it a lot. Just that it's only Ad-hoc, not infrastructure. But at least it doesn't drain battery badly.

This post has been edited by zachary22_77: Mar 9 2012, 07:31 AM
KennyKB
post Mar 9 2012, 08:34 AM

Regular
******
Senior Member
1,765 posts

Joined: Dec 2010
QUOTE(zachary22_77 @ Mar 9 2012, 07:25 AM)
NFC is meant to solve easy sharing of pics without needing to go online. They are going to cut out Zune after Tango. The main reason why they don't allow you to access file system directly is simple, prevent piracy.
Is this official from Microsoft or some blogger's wishful hope? MS cutting out Zune will be a radical change in WP design. I don't see MS doing this unless they are really desperate.

All companies want to prevent piracy. But doing it in such a way that it greatly inconvenience ordinary users is worse and has contributed to consumer rejection of WP. Don't ask why Apple can do it and MS can't. Some can and some can't.

This post has been edited by KennyKB: Mar 9 2012, 09:25 AM
Andy214
post Mar 9 2012, 09:20 AM

Look at all my stars!!
*******
Senior Member
3,308 posts

Joined: Nov 2004


QUOTE(zachary22_77 @ Mar 9 2012, 07:25 AM)
NFC is meant to solve easy sharing of pics without needing to go online. They are going to cut out Zune after Tango. The main reason why they don't allow you to access file system directly is simple, prevent piracy.


Added on March 9, 2012, 7:31 am

Wifi hotspot works very well, I use it a lot. Just that it's only Ad-hoc, not infrastructure. But at least it doesn't drain battery badly.
*
File System yes;
I don't find any reasonable nor logical explanation for sending photo over bluetooth.

But then, MS should know better about preventing piracy; If so, they would've done the same to their Desktop Windows. It's just so not MS.
What they did to the phone, it makes it like a those specific controlled media player device which only allows you to do something, such as going to their proprietary software. This doesn't make it a smartphone anymore, perhaps these type of device needs a new category.
If a mobile computer with added phone functionality is called a smartphone.
Then they should give a new name for multimedia device (like iPod, Zune) with added phone functionality a new name/categor, like mediaphone or something.

zachary22_77
post Mar 9 2012, 09:50 AM

Enthusiast
*****
Senior Member
716 posts

Joined: Jun 2007
From: Kota Kinabalu, Sabah



QUOTE(KennyKB @ Mar 9 2012, 08:34 AM)
Is this official from Microsoft or some blogger's wishful hope? MS cutting out Zune will be a radical change in WP design. I don't see MS doing this unless they are really desperate.

All companies want to prevent piracy. But doing it in such a way that it greatly inconvenience ordinary users is worse and has contributed to consumer rejection of WP. Don't ask why Apple can do it and MS can't. Some can and some can't.
*
It's being put under consideration. I think if they allow external mass storage to be usable then it's pretty much means u dun need Zune liau right?

Your definition of ordinary users really have to see geolocation also. For ordinary users here maybe but just our neighbor, SG, it's completely different.


QUOTE(Andy214 @ Mar 9 2012, 09:20 AM)
File System yes;
I don't find any reasonable nor logical explanation for sending photo over bluetooth.

But then, MS should know better about preventing piracy; If so, they would've done the same to their Desktop Windows. It's just so not MS.
What they did to the phone, it makes it like a those specific controlled media player device which only allows you to do something, such as going to their proprietary software. This doesn't make it a smartphone anymore, perhaps these type of device needs a new category.
If a mobile computer with added phone functionality is called a smartphone.
Then they should give a new name for multimedia device (like iPod, Zune) with added phone functionality a new name/categor, like mediaphone or something.
*
Well bro, unfortunately the 'smartphone' category is now being defined by Apple, like it or not. Everything else is compared to it. Quite honestly I agree with u, it's a multimedia device. Unfortunately the rest of the western world dun see it that way.

Anyway, back to N9, we can do text selection in web browser now but we can't in email, correct? Or did I miss something? hmm.gif
Upsilon
post Mar 9 2012, 10:28 AM

On my way
****
Senior Member
518 posts

Joined: Jan 2003
From: Subang Jaya



this is sad, after like 10 days PR1.2 is released, the bugzilla is closed
http://www.developer.nokia.com/Community/B...ed-for-new-bugs
zachary22_77
post Mar 9 2012, 10:54 AM

Enthusiast
*****
Senior Member
716 posts

Joined: Jun 2007
From: Kota Kinabalu, Sabah



QUOTE(Upsilon @ Mar 9 2012, 10:28 AM)
this is sad, after like 10 days PR1.2 is released, the bugzilla is closed
http://www.developer.nokia.com/Community/B...ed-for-new-bugs
*
Well, maybe they need time to fix the current issues so stop filling for now. I heard the team has been cut down. Hope they re-open it later...
Upsilon
post Mar 9 2012, 11:29 AM

On my way
****
Senior Member
518 posts

Joined: Jan 2003
From: Subang Jaya



QUOTE(zachary22_77 @ Mar 9 2012, 10:54 AM)
Well, maybe they need time to fix the current issues so stop filling for now. I heard the team has been cut down. Hope they re-open it later...
*
yea, shrunk 75% :/
KennyKB
post Mar 9 2012, 06:48 PM

Regular
******
Senior Member
1,765 posts

Joined: Dec 2010
It doesn't really matter if OS upgrades stop after PR1.3 or PR1.4 By then the OS will be stable enough and good enough. Then it is up to the community to keep N9 alive by producing apps, tweaks and fixes. Your phone will be useful for a few more years until you decide to change it.

192 Pages « < 30 31 32 33 34 > » Top
Topic ClosedOptions
 

Change to:
| Lo-Fi Version
0.0207sec    0.90    6 queries    GZIP Disabled
Time is now: 29th November 2025 - 01:26 AM