TBH, i don't give a rat bout this... I more concern about Nokia's future & when is elop being fired by board of directors.

Symbian develop for how many year gona kill by a person? No way! MeeGo being abandon juz because of him, hell no!

This post has been edited by tonberry_ax: Mar 8 2012, 12:53 PM

Yea LOL! Missing one keyword "scene" made a big difference.
Landscape and Landscape.
Portrait and Portrait.

nokia future is not with Lumia definitely...nokia simply oem with Lumia-way...no innovation so far.



but based on Damian Dinning's (camera sexpert in Nokia) comment, we might need to put our faith abit in Elop

http://mynokiablog.com/wp-content/uploads/.../innovation.jpg

elop?meego community hate him.lol.

Sexpert? wow, that's new for me.

Many knows Elop plan's when he wrote burning platform which is wipe the OS entirely. This is waterfall methodology with no turning back. Faith? Faith can eat? ada warranty kah? You must be joking lol.

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This post has been edited by tonberry_ax: Mar 8 2012, 01:14 PM

I don't use Whatsapp but I'm sexcited anyway because I know Whatsapp will make the N9 more DESIRABLE and ALLURING to the general public and maybe, just maybe MeeGo will have a future.

Put our faith in Elop? What kind of CEO bash down his own OS which has attracted popular appeal in favour of an inferior 3rd party OS which is out of their control? The least he can do is to open N9 for sale in all major markets instead of withholding it out of fear that it will cannibalize Lumia sales. Elop has committed Nokia to a downward spiral because there is no way Lumia can save Nokia with WP7's tiny market share.

I'm excited too lorr

LoL
sexcited
sexpert

Well, WP is still young, similar with iOS, give it a little more time & enough pressure, I'm sure you'll see more advance features added in. But hopefully not at the slow pace iOS did.


Actually the sequence for N8/E7 is hold power button for more than 8 secs to off it when it hangs. Worked everytime for me. But yes you're right on the part where if u send to service centre then they see all your stuff. Then again, I think this is something that most ppl dun think about also.

OIC! Ok now I get what you mean.

Yes from standpoint of view from E72 they complain since that phone have auto-focus & the E6 don't. Honestly Nokia should not put EDOF cameras in phones meant for Business segment, but EDOF in general use is not as bad as u all make it sound. Remember, I'm talking about general use. I was expecting complains from my colleagues & sis but in the end they told me they were very happy & showed me their tons of photos which surprised me. For ppl who are used to auto focus then this is a downgrade but for most ppl who just got a smartphone like Nokia 701, it's a big leap & upgrade to these folks.

my faith based on faith give by one of Nokia important person, but still not liking elop lumia-way :/

So whatsapp finally 'ported' to our N9, next we need is Skype vid call. Then Office app with editing features. After that.... I'm not sure I have anymore requests

Reading that, I believe he's the one burning the Nokia now by ditching everything and going full force Windows Phone.
In the first place, if they're on a burning platform, why choose Windows Phone over Android when everyone is supporting Android; Isn't they supposed to listen to the customer and meet customer's demand?
Secondly, there's no need to ditch MeeGo or Symbian.

Lastly, Maemo/MeeGo is slow because they didn't put enough man-power or people into it, not much attention and effort was given; It's like treating Maemo/MeeGo as a backup or adopted baby.

Plus, talking about attracting developers. What rubbish is he talking about? Firstly, you need to make sure you have enough users, secondly, take the initiative to invite and attract developers. When the platform can make money, developers will go. Even I don't like iOS restrictions and limitations, if I were to decide which platform to develop my app/game, my first choice will be iOS because I have high chance and can sell my app/games easier, there's more customers.

I do hope WP will change, but seeing it's base and where it comes from. I don't think much can change.
Can they remove the restrictions and limitations? I doubt it.
It may be able to provide more than what iOS provides, but can it satisfy those true smartphone users?
I've given the Lumia 800 to quite a few people to try/test, none gives positive feedback, of course these are all smartphone users who truly enjoys the customization, flexibility. Suddenly using something that doesn't have this, it feels like downgraded/backdated and feels very restricted. To add on, when I'm using it, I feel very stupid many times and question why as it really sound unreasonable to restrict or have such limitations.

Personally, I would say it's not suitable for everyone. For people who can live with limitations and restrictions like iPhone, they may not have problem with this.
BUT for Nokia, they have many loyal users who are not the young generations, they may not really use a computer, they may not use the internet, not to mention emails, etc. So, the Windows Phone is really useless already, plus it requires a Windows Live ID, it requires Zune, etc.
Even with Symbian's bug and lagginess, seems they can bear with it, but what about the limitations and restrictions of Windows Phone? Cannot send files over bluetooth? Imagine what will they think or say.

Will Windows Phone actually save or help Nokia? Or make it worst because many of their loyal users, were not actually the young generations. Younger generations are into brands, latest, etc. How many young people love Nokia? I don't know, I know they prefer Samsung, Sony, etc. Maybe Nokia is trying to attract these people, can they do it with Windows Phone (when most of them prefers Android) and at the expense of loosing their loyal customers who are not really into technology and internet?


Actually there is another issue, although rarely, whereby you force shutdown (remove and put back battery), but there is problem with booting up.
For this problem, we remove the battery for few seconds or longer, then put back the battery and try to boot again, and it will be successful. So, with non-user replaceable, you can't; But the service centre probably did this first when you send in.

This post has been edited by Andy214: Mar 8 2012, 02:50 PM

We still don't have a wi-fi scanner, Shazam, Lyric finder and kamasutra.

I agree definitely that WP is not for everyone. No phone OS is. Requiring Windows Live ID actually same with Android require Google account or iOS require Apple ID. So yes you're correct & as I've been saying, Nokia is not focusing on the older generation, which is where most their fans are left. Sadly.


Oh yeah! I remember this prob. Faced it so often with my 5800 last time. But luckily(Touch Wood!!!), I haven't encountered it yet on my current phones now.

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Added on March 8, 2012, 3:15 pmOh ya, Shazam, Lyric finder. Though I hardly used them but it's nice to have. Never bothered with wifi scanner since my place here we can count how many free wifi there is.

Kamasutra??? U naughty boy

Tell you what, u make an app for that send to Nokia store see if gets approved. I noticed approval for MeeGo is much more lenient compared to Symbian.

This post has been edited by zachary22_77: Mar 8 2012, 03:15 PM

Is Android Google account is mandatory requirement? I can't remember.
For Windows Phone, if I'm not wrong, it's a requirement as you need it for adding contacts. Need to re-confirm this when I get back the device.
Apple ID is not mandatory right? Only for App Store?

I highlighted this to Nokia people before about the older generation; but seems they're not so worried or no choice since already using Windows Phone... Well, at least right now, there is choice of Symbian. If they go full force (as what they're planning), it may become a problem. I'm not sure the full force include those low end devices, but then still have older generations who use their high end devices and don't use computers/internet/etc.

Ability to play Real Video files with the default player. Or the chip tak boleh?
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Andy, dont say until like Nokia for senior citizens only I've been using Nokia for >15 years but dont qualify as uncle/auntie yet. It's the restrictions that many loyalist cannot bear, Lumia same price/more expensive BUT so many things cannot do. That's why now must say loud2 to Nokia(Elop) & Mircosoft so that they wouldnt think all is rosy.

Dunno how they, a multinational company, come with strategy, never even consider customer needs, if other company(like mine) kena sack liao

This post has been edited by eaglehelang: Mar 8 2012, 03:28 PM

Nono, I tried very hard to write so people doesn't think like that lol.
I mean, there is many senior citizen who is loyal Nokia users. Many of them may not be really use the computer, not to mention internet and email. They may already used to taking photo/videos and share file to their friends/relatives.
So the Windows Phone limitations and restrictions, will really affect them.
It's not necessary only senior citizen, there's still people, even young generation, that don't use or own a computer.

What can I say; Usually the person sitting on top or decision maker, they may not see things customers see. The most weird part is, how can they restrict the simple thing such as file transfer. How can they overlook this? It's very extremely unbelievable to me, and it's already version 7.5; What about the MS employees. Are they even using Windows Phone? Or they don't send files at all.
Sure you can upload to SkyDrive or send by email, but still, it's stupid to cutting/removing one of the main/common and widely used method.

Well, what is an iOS device without apps my fren? Hehe. So to me it's considered mandatory.
Same with Android devices too. They all all unspectacular without apps. I dun really remember if can skip the step of sign-in with Windows Live ID on WP, did you try?


Not the chip cannot but no decoder I think so Real Video won't play.

Anyway, they do listen to customers, not the loyalists. They listen to what American customers want.

r u RELI SURE???OH NO!!!ditch 800 n get back my N9 from little bro!!!

faith on the fatass?lol...