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 Nokia N9 - V03 - [Fluidity King For Nokia], Let~~~ SWIPE~~~ all~~~ the~~~ way~~~

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post Mar 8 2012, 03:55 PM

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QUOTE(Andy214 @ Mar 8 2012, 03:40 PM)
Nono, I tried very hard to write so people doesn't think like that lol.
I mean, there is many senior citizen who is loyal Nokia users. Many of them may not be really use the computer, not to mention internet and email. They may already used to taking photo/videos and share file to their friends/relatives.
So the Windows Phone limitations and restrictions, will really affect them.
It's not necessary only senior citizen, there's still people, even young generation, that don't use or own a computer.

What can I say; Usually the person sitting on top or decision maker, they may not see things customers see. The most weird part is, how can they restrict the simple thing such as file transfer. How can they overlook this? It's very extremely unbelievable to me, and it's already version 7.5; What about the MS employees. Are they even using Windows Phone? Or they don't send files at all.
Sure you can upload to SkyDrive or send by email, but still, it's stupid to cutting/removing one of the main/common and widely used method.
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I think for those loyal Nokia users which don't use computer still have Asha line of phones to pick from. Or the current Symbian phones. Asha line is definitely going to continue. Meltimi(low end MeeGo) might takeover for phones that need more smartphone features but of course that's all rumours now.

The version 7.5 is actually just to continue from Windows Mobile which ended at 6. Maybe they should not have done that considering it's a new OS. But I guess they believe the no 7 is magical for them, cue Windows 7. laugh.gif

Anyway, it's meant for ppl who go online more than anything. These targeted ppl have no clue what is file transfer via Bluetooth. They paste to Twitter, FB or send through Whatsapp.
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QUOTE(nicholasbeh @ Mar 8 2012, 03:50 PM)
r u RELI SURE???OH NO!!!ditch 800 n get back my N9 from little bro!!!
Yes, the whole MeeGo community knows Whatsapp is coming, not the official version but a clone version produced by MeeGo developers.

It may be as early as next week so better get it back now!
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QUOTE(KennyKB @ Mar 8 2012, 03:10 PM)
We still don't have a wi-fi scanner, Shazam, Lyric finder and kamasutra.  tongue.gif
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wifi scanner is around, search for wifik @ TMO
erm... kamasutra..... there should a wiki for that, browse through the browser? *sarcasm*
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post Mar 8 2012, 04:00 PM

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QUOTE(KennyKB @ Mar 8 2012, 03:57 PM)
Yes, the whole MeeGo community knows Whatsapp is coming, not the official version but a clone version produced by MeeGo developers.

It may be as early as next week so better get it back now!
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clone which mean not cross platform?aiks.sad case.btw,its EXTREMELY SMOOTH after updated to pr1.2.smoother than so many dual core android devices out there.the rotation between landscape to portrait is so AMAZING even my sgs2 show some lags.i wonder y the fatass ditch this super fantastic os.....sad case.
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QUOTE(Upsilon @ Mar 8 2012, 03:59 PM)
wifi scanner is around, search for wifik @ TMO
erm... kamasutra..... there should a wiki for that, browse through the browser? *sarcasm*
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naughty..
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QUOTE(nicholasbeh @ Mar 8 2012, 04:00 PM)
clone which mean not cross platform?aiks.sad case.btw,its EXTREMELY SMOOTH after updated to pr1.2.smoother than so many dual core android devices out there.the rotation between landscape to portrait is so AMAZING even my sgs2 show some lags.i wonder y the fatass ditch this super fantastic os.....sad case.
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it's an unofficial port based on the version written for s40 devices iirc smile.gif
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QUOTE(nicholasbeh @ Mar 8 2012, 04:00 PM)
clone which mean not cross platform?aiks.sad case.btw,its EXTREMELY SMOOTH after updated to pr1.2.smoother than so many dual core android devices out there.the rotation between landscape to portrait is so AMAZING even my sgs2 show some lags.i wonder y the fatass ditch this super fantastic os.....sad case.
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not official , tgalal ported it from duno which version, but cross platform is there definitely
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will be available in store?or have to download from somewhere else?
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post Mar 8 2012, 04:08 PM

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QUOTE(zachary22_77 @ Mar 8 2012, 03:41 PM)
Well, what is an iOS device without apps my fren? Hehe. So to me it's considered mandatory.  tongue.gif
Same with Android devices too. They all all unspectacular without apps. I dun really remember if can skip the step of sign-in with Windows Live ID on WP, did you try?
Not the chip cannot but no decoder I think so Real Video won't play.

Anyway, they do listen to customers, not the loyalists. They listen to what American customers want.  sweat.gif
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LoL yea;
Android, no apps still OK la, you got nice homescreen can customize, got widgets, etc. (Of course, some still need to download)
iPhone? Unlock you see apps menu. Totally nothing to do, it's just like the non-smartphone era.

I skip Windows Live ID when I first boot. I think we can skip the Live ID for normal phone use as I remember the first time I test it, I test without any sim card or internet connection. That time, really nothing to do, only play with the camera.

QUOTE(zachary22_77 @ Mar 8 2012, 03:55 PM)
I think for those loyal Nokia users which don't use computer still have Asha line of phones to pick from. Or the current Symbian phones. Asha line is definitely going to continue. Meltimi(low end MeeGo) might takeover for phones that need more smartphone features but of course that's all rumours now.

The version 7.5 is actually just to continue from Windows Mobile which ended at 6. Maybe they should not have done that considering it's a new OS. But I guess they believe the no 7 is magical for them, cue Windows 7.  laugh.gif

Anyway, it's meant for ppl who go online more than anything. These targeted ppl have no clue what is file transfer via Bluetooth. They paste to Twitter, FB or send through Whatsapp.
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I thought before Mango (7.5), it was Windows Phone 7? Then comes to Mango update which brings copy-and-paste, multi-tasking, etc.

Yup, in US, there's probably hardly any issue with internet availability (but still, is it everywhere in US?).
Still as a software developer, it's wrong to not consider more and only think about their own.
Finally, removing the main/common widely used method for file transfer is another weird implementation. Just can hope they will change their mind on this.


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stop day dreaming,they wont.like we hoping nokia get back meego as main os.

This post has been edited by nicholasbeh: Mar 8 2012, 04:14 PM
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QUOTE(nicholasbeh @ Mar 8 2012, 04:07 PM)
will be available in store?or have to download from somewhere else?
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don't think so as this is not an authorized port (more like a hack)
but nobody knows, as the QA of Nokia Store is a bit .....
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post Mar 8 2012, 04:22 PM

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QUOTE(Andy214 @ Mar 8 2012, 04:08 PM)
LoL yea;
Android, no apps still OK la, you got nice homescreen can customize, got widgets, etc. (Of course, some still need to download)
iPhone? Unlock you see apps menu. Totally nothing to do, it's just like the non-smartphone era.

I skip Windows Live ID when I first boot. I think we can skip the Live ID for normal phone use as I remember the first time I test it, I test without any sim card or internet connection. That time, really nothing to do, only play with the camera.
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OIC, so can skip Windows Live ID. Ok lah then can still use as 'dumb phone' laugh.gif

QUOTE(Andy214 @ Mar 8 2012, 04:08 PM)
I thought before Mango (7.5), it was Windows Phone 7? Then comes to Mango update which brings copy-and-paste, multi-tasking, etc.

Yup, in US, there's probably hardly any issue with internet availability (but still, is it everywhere in US?).
Still as a software developer, it's wrong to not consider more and only think about their own.
Finally, removing the main/common widely used method for file transfer is another weird implementation. Just can hope they will change their mind on this.
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Eh... what I meant was that they should not have started the number at 7 since it's new OS mah. But not bad lah can bring a lot of new features in a 0.5 version upgrade. When did iOS get copy paste? 3 years?

I doubt they'll give back that file transfer method. The simple reason is that they won't open up the file system access since this can be abused to copy anything from the phone.
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whats the point comparing meego n wp?definitely meego better but only the apps are much lesser than wp.end of story. biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(nicholasbeh @ Mar 8 2012, 04:24 PM)
whats the point comparing meego n wp?definitely meego better but only the apps are much lesser than wp.end of story. biggrin.gif
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Yeah, hence why I'm using N9, not Lumia 800. Just give me a few more requested apps then I'm darn happy.
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solid os,the base is better than any other os but abandoned by fatso.even hard die ifag like engadget also shocked vf N9.
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Look wat lumia phone can do. Is Nokia showing us how they manage to limit & restrict WP functions? doh.gif

The capability of MeeGo/Meamo community to bring out the N9 potential already put Nokia into shame. bruce.gif
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QUOTE(zachary22_77 @ Mar 8 2012, 04:22 PM)
OIC, so can skip Windows Live ID. Ok lah then can still use as 'dumb phone'  laugh.gif
Eh... what I meant was that they should not have started the number at 7 since it's new OS mah. But not bad lah can bring a lot of new features in a 0.5 version upgrade. When did iOS get copy paste? 3 years?

I doubt they'll give back that file transfer method. The simple reason is that they won't open up the file system access since this can be abused to copy anything from the phone.
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Oops, misunderstanding, hehehe.

Yea, it's not bad upgrade and actually if we don't look at it against other smartphone; It's actually very smooth and nice. They just need to loosen it a little, gives more flexibility to the user (such as file transfer), and some other minor issue, it could have satisfy many users (or can live with at least.).
As current, there're many complaints from past Nokia users, you can also read it in Nokia Malaysia Facebook, how frustrated they are after using Windows Phone. Some of them are long time Nokia users, and the ads and campaign on Nokia Windows Phone, they get one, the first experience is surely nice, smooth, fast, etc. but later they will start to feel the frustration due to the limitations and restrictions.
If they're iOS users, then maybe no as bad, but if they're Nokia Symbian users, it's kind of like a big impact, and all this is not mention or known to them before they made the purchase.

For file transfer, they can enable it in Picture Gallery, etc.
Example, when I'm viewing Picture, I choose "Share", but there's no Bluetooth option.
There is no file manager, so you can't share anything else. You're only allowed to see what you can see.
Even my friend use, he said he downloaded an excel file, but cannot find it anywhere; No idea where it went.

Anyway, I can just say, the Mango tasted sweet at first, but it's very sour after you taste it more. Though, there's still some sweetness (People Hub, Office Integration, Mail, Voice Command/Recognition/to Speech).
Next is whether it will really Tango or not, lol.

Sadly, right now, Windows Phone will be my 2nd last choice, the last being iPhone. The People Hub is really nice, but MeeGo also has it and it's still better.


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till now i still dont understand what make meego a bad choice for nokia.

there should.keep it as alternative but.no abadon it.

even samsung have bada, wp, and android
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QUOTE(KennyKB @ Mar 7 2012, 03:05 PM)
It's strange why some of you have this repeating and missing sms problem but others don't. If a hard reset which removes all third party apps doesn't solve it it cannot be due to apps conflict. Please share who is your network operator, maybe there is a common operator responsible. Try a sim with another operator and see if the problem recurs. (Not so easy with micro-sim I know, the disadvantage of micro-sim).


Added on March 7, 2012, 3:10 pm

Andy was talking about WP7 limitations. Yes, you can send a photo as an email attachment but it is cumbersome as both sender and receiver need data connection. Bluetooth and wifi file transfer are not allowed in WP7 because they bypass Zune. This is copying the bad points of iphone for nothing. At least iphone you can jailbreak to get over restictions but in WP7 you are stuck.

If you are coming from Symbian going to WP7 will be like moving from the freedom of your house to an army camp. Another example, you can use any MP3 file as a ringtone in Symbian but you have to buy extra ringtones from Microsoft.
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Thanks Kenny's advice.
The problem to me looks like 2-3 times after hard reset.
But now looks like ok.
So, I will wait and see what's really wrong.
Like you say, it's not easy to have another micro-sim to test. smile.gif
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N9.the last warrior.aiks.same faith vf 808.

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