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 Nokia N9 - V03 - [Fluidity King For Nokia], Let~~~ SWIPE~~~ all~~~ the~~~ way~~~

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post Mar 23 2012, 10:47 PM

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QUOTE(eaglehelang @ Mar 23 2012, 10:31 PM)
Oh, that's why my E6 doesnt have this banding thingy. I thought it's cos it's smaller 3.2" screen. Actually the N9 also not so noticeable, unless watch videos in the dark  tongue.gif
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The quality of your video also matters. Avoid mobile MP4 format, the colours are not smooth especially skin tones. I always use customized MP4 movie (Any Video Converter)
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post Mar 23 2012, 11:13 PM

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QUOTE(KennyKB @ Mar 23 2012, 10:47 PM)
The quality of your video also matters. Avoid mobile MP4 format, the colours are not smooth especially skin tones. I always use customized MP4 movie (Any Video Converter)
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If originally download on PC, mine is normally Xvid, smaller file size. But if coverted from rmvb to xvid(Any Video Converter also), sometimes the warm colours like orange, red, are too glaring. Can imagine the Emperor, Empress, Prince, Princess costumes hurt the eyes, gaudy tongue.gif

If download using cutetube, 480p mp4 is good quality, provided the uploaded copy is high quality, I think the developer already optimise the format.

This post has been edited by eaglehelang: Mar 23 2012, 11:15 PM
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QUOTE(eaglehelang @ Mar 23 2012, 06:21 PM)
It was reported early this year that Nokia will open a factory in Vietnam. The news link abt  opening in vietnam was posted in gsm arena by an asian. They close in Europe, open in Asia, normal trend. Last time, everyone want to go china open, now shifting to vietnam
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Actually it's being moved to South Korea & China. Read this. It was reported way back in Feb 8 2012. So not a big suprise.

QUOTE(KennyKB @ Mar 23 2012, 07:59 PM)
No Angry Birds Space for WP7? What a shame. At least N9 users can play the Android version.

http://techcrunch.com/2012/03/23/analyst-n...okias-recovery/
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Guess what? Read the article again, there's an update! Haha! Someone might have said something wrong coz CEO of Rovio, Mikael Hed had to step in & 'correct' that. laugh.gif

QUOTE(k@|i0s @ Mar 23 2012, 10:29 PM)
any hope for angry bird space for meego??
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Eh.... we have NITDroid working already leh. brows.gif

QUOTE(eaglehelang @ Mar 23 2012, 10:31 PM)
Oh, that's why my E6 doesnt have this banding thingy. I thought it's cos it's smaller 3.2" screen. Actually the N9 also not so noticeable, unless watch videos in the dark  tongue.gif
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Yap, coz E6 uses TFT screen also and it has a freaking high 325 ppi pixel density screen somemore. That's very near the iPhone 4/4s 330 ppi pixel density screen.
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QUOTE(zachary22_77 @ Mar 24 2012, 12:33 AM)
Actually it's being moved to South Korea & China. Read this. It was reported way back in Feb 8 2012. So not a big suprise.

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I was refering to this :
http://excelbrothers.com/vietnam-software-...ory-in-vietnam/

http://blogs.ft.com/beyond-brics/2011/09/0.../#axzz1pxZVr600
http://www.businesslawconsultant.com/news/...special-offers-
Factory supposed to open early 2012, but government making it hard, not surprising

Latest news on Finland job cuts also mention Vietnam : http://www.businessweek.com/news/2012-03-2...t-finnish-plant
So, I suppose in the meanwhile, China & South Korea factories will be producing the phones

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QUOTE(eaglehelang @ Mar 24 2012, 01:01 AM)
I was refering to this :
http://excelbrothers.com/vietnam-software-...ory-in-vietnam/

http://blogs.ft.com/beyond-brics/2011/09/0.../#axzz1pxZVr600
http://www.businesslawconsultant.com/news/...special-offers-
Factory supposed to open early 2012, but government making it hard, not surprising

Latest news on Finland job cuts also mention Vietnam : http://www.businessweek.com/news/2012-03-2...t-finnish-plant
So, I suppose in the meanwhile, China  & South Korea factories will be producing the phones
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Oh no wonder I didn't see Vietnam in the news that I've read. The factory ain't open yet. Hehe. Let's see how long the gov is going to drag this before they get a big slap in the face from Nokia.

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QUOTE(k@|i0s @ Mar 23 2012, 10:29 PM)
any hope for angry bird space for meego??
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So far Rovio haven't got any plans to create ABS for MeeGo. Hence, NITDroid is our best option right now.
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QUOTE(zachary22_77 @ Mar 24 2012, 01:16 AM)
Oh no wonder I didn't see Vietnam in the news that I've read. The factory ain't open yet. Hehe. Let's see how long the gov is going to drag this before they get a big slap in the face from Nokia.
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I think the original news I read was the Mar 2011 one when they sign the MOU. See 2013 will open or not,haha.
Other articles say that the attention shift to vietnam due to cheaper labour cost than china. Samsung already open factory there in 2009, but dunno which division.

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i want draw something on n9 badly
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where is the whatsapp?
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QUOTE(nicholasbeh @ Mar 24 2012, 11:21 PM)
where is the whatsapp?
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It's all depending on one developer based in Cairo doing it part time. I think his original estimate that he could finish the GUI in 1 week is too ambitious as it is already past 2 weeks. There is a genuine effort going on, so just be patient.

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hello guys
wanna ask somethings
if i reinstall the PR1.2 using the NSU, what will happen?
what data i will lost?

because when i update to PR1.2 from PR1.1, i dunno that i need to revert back the tweak that made from n9 qt tweak. now it like got a bit lag lag lo.
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QUOTE(zachary22_77 @ Mar 23 2012, 05:55 PM)
Dun have a PSP so I game on my N8 nowadays hehe. Oh, didn't know what app was "Dynolicious", searched it up, wah, car tuning?  shocking.gif Didn't know got such app.
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Dyno app. There're few Dyno apps for iOS, but this one is one of the nice ones.

QUOTE(zachary22_77 @ Mar 23 2012, 05:55 PM)
Actually there is kind of scrolling to specific alphabet in Windows Phone, but it doesn't work the same way like N9. Instead it works like this, you notice an 'a' floating on top of the 1st contact you have that starts with 'a'? Press it to get an index from a - z, then choose from there. This works in almost any list I think. U basically can access the index by pressing that floating alphabet.  biggrin.gif
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Ahhh, thanks! Got it!

QUOTE(zachary22_77 @ Mar 23 2012, 05:55 PM)
I think they set priority 1st & foremost on getting FB & Twitter right since that's the thing everyone uses. There is a limitation in the FB integration, u can't access group info I think. For that you have to install the official FB app. Anyway since FB & Twitter is very good now, I hope they start to pay the same attention elsewhere in the OS.
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Yup, no Facebook Group access, only friends/contact at the moment. Not sure how they will implement group, as in Facebook, we have personal grouping of the contacts and then there's the discussion or group page. Perhaps just sync the friends grouping in Facebook is enough.

For The Group/Discussion Page, not sure if it will be implemented, but it can get quite messy and so I think it shouldn't be inside People page, perhaps a different page, or just use the FB app for that cause there's also other things like fan page, your own page, etc.

QUOTE(zachary22_77 @ Mar 23 2012, 05:55 PM)
Yap, bit refers to colour, 16-bit is 65K while 24-bit/32-bit is 16 Million. Anyway, the reason why you don't see the banding on N900 is because it's TFT type. TFT doesn't show obvious colour banding if compared to AMOLED.
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N8 specs seems to mention that it's 16M colour but the resolution is low and also quite low ppi.

QUOTE(zachary22_77 @ Mar 24 2012, 12:33 AM)
Guess what? Read the article again, there's an update! Haha! Someone might have said something wrong coz CEO of Rovio, Mikael Hed had to step in & 'correct' that.  laugh.gif
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I believe it would come for Windows Phone, MS is pushing it plus Nokia and Rovio, both from Finland and has been in good terms? Previous Angry Bird's Party as example.

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Nokia 1Utama prices N9 and Lumia800 @ RM1,499 for the 16GB model
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QUOTE(GravityFi3ld @ Mar 26 2012, 11:45 AM)
Nokia 1Utama prices N9 and Lumia800 @ RM1,499 for the 16GB model
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Same price for 16GB N9 and Lumia 800. Yet many people will buy Lumia simply because it is supported by Nokia and has a future while Nokia is just waiting for N9 to die quietly.


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QUOTE(KennyKB @ Mar 26 2012, 12:02 PM)
Same price for 16GB N9 and Lumia 800. Yet many people will buy Lumia simply because it is supported by Nokia and has a future while Nokia is just waiting for N9 to die quietly.
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Many people were scared to buy a N9 because Nokia didn't support it wholeheartedly. Many of them heard the suicidal announcements of Elop or the lack of support.

The N900 is a fully enthusiast/geek phone, while the N9 isn't and was never meant to be. But Nokia, those fools, tries to make the N9 to a niche-product.

Therefore the N9 ISN'T dead at all at this moment. But yes the future doesn't look very bright, because the biggest enemy of the N9 isn't the iPhone or an Android, it's Nokia.

I have to mention that I have nothing against WP per-se. Even thought of buying one before I bought my N9. But having tested it now a couple times it's just obvious that WP is such a step backwards from MeeGo or Symbian. Those live-tiles are a nice idea but they only show a little info and after a while most people will realise that a good notification page (which even iOS 5 has now) is much better. And I guess I don't need to mention all the missing features of WP... I'd rather buy an iPhone then, because at least I have tons of applications to choose from. BTW MeeGo already now has lot's of quality apps and most of them are free while I've notice that there are few free apps and games in WP store.

I often wonder, why should I even have a Nokia phone when the company is run by such incompetent idiots? Well the N9 might be my first and last Nokia smartphone, but never before am I so satisfied with a phone and still used it with such joy months since purchase. Everything I had to implement to my iPhone through jailbreak (ok iOS 5 finally has some basic features), the N9 already has and much more.. and Android, well they're pretty good, but too buggy. Just compare once a Skype-call on N9 and Android. First is a joy while 2nd a shame.

The problem is that many iPhone (or WP) users don't even know what a smartphone could do. Somehow the intelligence of users got lowered through the iPhone. To me it always was a mystery why with that smartphone I have less functionalities than with a typical mobile phone (like bluetooth transfer, FM Radio, mass-storage, etc...).

There are many curious friends (90% iPhone users) asking about my phone, especially when I tell that it's not Windows. In most cases they are absolutely excited about it (system and look) - girls and guys (except for Apple-fan-boys who defend everything) and not realize how cramped they are with their Apple-phones.

And believe it or not, with Maemo5 or Symbian I never could have left such an impression to other phone users like with MeeGo.

But there we are again at the incompetence of Nokia in pulling down a good product in favour of some American OS due to American shareholders.

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QUOTE(Ginny88 @ Mar 26 2012, 12:09 PM)
Many people were scared to buy a N9 because Nokia didn't support it wholeheartedly. Many of them heard the suicidal announcements of Elop or the lack of support.

The N900 is a fully enthusiast/geek phone, while the N9 isn't and was never meant to be. But Nokia, those fools, tries to make the N9 to a niche-product.

Therefore the N9 ISN'T dead at all at this moment. But yes the future doesn't look very bright, because the biggest enemy of the N9 isn't the iPhone or an Android, it's Nokia.

I have to mention that I have nothing against WP per-se. Even thought of buying one before I bought my N9. But having tested it now a couple times it's just obvious that WP is such a step backwards from MeeGo or Symbian. Those live-tiles are a nice idea but they only show a little info and after a while most people will realise that a good notification page (which even iOS 5 has now) is much better. And I guess I don't need to mention all the missing features of WP... I'd rather buy an iPhone then, because at least I have tons of applications to choose from. BTW MeeGo already now has lot's of quality apps and most of them are free while I've notice that there are few free apps and games in WP store.

I often wonder, why should I even have a Nokia phone when the company is run by such incompetent idiots? Well the N9 might be my first and last Nokia smartphone, but never before am I so satisfied with a phone and still used it with such joy months since purchase. Everything I had to implement to my iPhone through jailbreak (ok iOS 5 finally has some basic features), the N9 already has and much more.. and Android, well they're pretty good, but too buggy. Just compare once a Skype-call on N9 and Android. First is a joy while 2nd a shame.

The problem is that many iPhone (or WP) users don't even know what a smartphone could do. Somehow the intelligence of users got lowered through the iPhone. To me it always was a mystery why with that smartphone I have less functionalities than with a typical mobile phone (like bluetooth transfer, FM Radio, mass-storage, etc...).

There are many curious friends (90% iPhone users) asking about my phone, especially when I tell that it's not Windows. In most cases they are absolutely excited about it (system and look) - girls and guys (except for Apple-fan-boys who defend everything) and not realize how cramped they are with their Apple-phones.

And believe it or not, with Maemo5 or Symbian I never could have left such an impression to other phone users like with MeeGo.

But there we are again at the incompetence of Nokia in pulling down a good product in favour of some American OS due to American shareholders.
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Well, that's what I've been saying too, Apple is bringing and MAINTAINING the users intelligence level at low level with the iPhone. When people are used to the simplicity WITH NO OPTIONS for advance features or move forward, they're STUCK at that level. When they see another TRUE REAL Smartphone, they think it's too complicated. Human nature, it's hard to change especially if they see something more complicated than their current.
BUT, most of the time, is it really so complicated?
Android is complicated, BUT, how complicated is it to get used to it? When people actually use it, they will eventually know most of it already in very short time and will start to feel, it's not so complicated afterall once you tried it, and will even starts to complaint about what is missing.
After all,... we all use Computers, there're more things than what smartphone can do or offer.

Another example is digital camera, usually we get a digital camera, we go, WOW so much function and this and that, I wouldn't know how to use this or that, I will just use AUTO mode; BUT, if one day we're free or we want to take some shot which the auto mode can't do, we will start to EXPLORE and go through the functions and features... eventually, we will know more about the digital camera... then we might look back and think, how did we even consider it complicated at first? It's just a matter to explore and going through it. Soon, we will find the drawback and what is lacking...
Imagine those that do reviews, especially those review videos in YouTube, they can pickup any phone or device and use it in no time, even if they're new to it, they just need sometime to explore and they will roughly know in and out. In short, basically, most of the things are the same, as long as you know the basics, you just need to know where to find and how to set certain things.
Just like phones, most of the features and functions are the same, it's just where to find it and how to set them, and what are the NEW and unique functions/features.

As for N900, not sure if you have used it. It was easy to left an impression to people, in fact, it was the what started to attract people's attention but the ads was misleading and the Nokia Store staff wasn't helpful and they themselves don't know or understand the product. All it need is just a little guide for the beginning to get familiar, but then the major drawback was, there's no 3G video calls, no MMS (3rd party available but the staff seems have no idea), etc. Basically, unless the person browse the internet or go through the forums, they will most likely be stuck with the lack of apps/games from OVI Store. Once they visit the forum, the N900 thread was very well organized with many guides (thanks to aspire sifu, and now handled by another sifu, superevilalien). There're tons of apps available, all for FREE, but not the usualy apps/games that were available on other smartphones tough. My cousins and few others who are not IT type person, they were also attracted by the N900, they were impress with the Desktop concept, the smoothness, multi-tasking, flash enabled browser, and so much (people use computers/notebook will most likely be impressed as this is really like a mobile computer) but, but I tell them the advantages and disadvantages; The disadvantages discouraged them as most people want apps and games, it's more important than anything else. In fact, most people just need a simple phone, that can do basic web surfing, play media files; the most important to them is the apps and games.
If you go through the N900 threads, you will see many types of users, even normal users who're not in IT field; they don't have problems customizing the phone. As I said, how complicated can it get? There's only so much (or actually, little) that you need to learn. All it takes it's just to explore and get familiar with the environment.

Every OS has it's characteristics, like I'm used to having apps with close option, but when I use iPhone, some or most of it, doesn't really have it? Most people are used to using the ONE button to rule them all. When using Windows Phone, I also face similar difficulties, you're relying on BACK button to exit, and how many times you need to back? If you're few levels inside an app, you need to back multiple times? What about web browser? Back is back to previous page or close? One needs to get familiar with using this. I'm still not comfortable with the back button, even though I've use Android for sometime. Sometimes you press back, when you're at the first page, it close the app for your which I didn't want to.
Personally, I don't find it simple, I find it confusing and inconvenient, the back button that is, but that's me. Symbian button can be back, cancel, or exit, depending on which page you're on. Maemo and MeeGo, it's also represented properly on the screen, and the best is you can easily access the multi-tasking windows and access/close each app easily.

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QUOTE(Ginny88 @ Mar 26 2012, 12:09 PM)
Many people were scared to buy a N9 because Nokia didn't support it wholeheartedly. Many of them heard the suicidal announcements of Elop or the lack of support.

The N900 is a fully enthusiast/geek phone, while the N9 isn't and was never meant to be. But Nokia, those fools, tries to make the N9 to a niche-product.

Therefore the N9 ISN'T dead at all at this moment. But yes the future doesn't look very bright, because the biggest enemy of the N9 isn't the iPhone or an Android, it's Nokia.

I have to mention that I have nothing against WP per-se. Even thought of buying one before I bought my N9. But having tested it now a couple times it's just obvious that WP is such a step backwards from MeeGo or Symbian. Those live-tiles are a nice idea but they only show a little info and after a while most people will realise that a good notification page (which even iOS 5 has now) is much better. And I guess I don't need to mention all the missing features of WP... I'd rather buy an iPhone then, because at least I have tons of applications to choose from. BTW MeeGo already now has lot's of quality apps and most of them are free while I've notice that there are few free apps and games in WP store.

I often wonder, why should I even have a Nokia phone when the company is run by such incompetent idiots? Well the N9 might be my first and last Nokia smartphone, but never before am I so satisfied with a phone and still used it with such joy months since purchase. Everything I had to implement to my iPhone through jailbreak (ok iOS 5 finally has some basic features), the N9 already has and much more.. and Android, well they're pretty good, but too buggy. Just compare once a Skype-call on N9 and Android. First is a joy while 2nd a shame.

The problem is that many iPhone (or WP) users don't even know what a smartphone could do. Somehow the intelligence of users got lowered through the iPhone. To me it always was a mystery why with that smartphone I have less functionalities than with a typical mobile phone (like bluetooth transfer, FM Radio, mass-storage, etc...).

There are many curious friends (90% iPhone users) asking about my phone, especially when I tell that it's not Windows. In most cases they are absolutely excited about it (system and look) - girls and guys (except for Apple-fan-boys who defend everything) and not realize how cramped they are with their Apple-phones.

And believe it or not, with Maemo5 or Symbian I never could have left such an impression to other phone users like with MeeGo.

But there we are again at the incompetence of Nokia in pulling down a good product in favour of some American OS due to American shareholders.
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True, n9 is a great potential not fulfilled. The first time i saw the n9, i already have the feeling that this is the potential game changer to the smartphone market. One that could change the tides to Nokia favor in a sea of Iphones and Android devices.
With the Lumia 800, the feeling is not there. I felt like i am holding a cheap, pirated copy of the n9. I also felt like i was playing with a dumb phone rather than a smartphone. I made my decision in about 5 minutes to buy the n9.
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just 5 minutes?
i decided very fast to get a n9, but it takes me month to really get one =.=
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I like the N9 but there a handful of people i recommended the Nokia N9 are complaining over the phone example one bug

1st friend

1. SMS suddenly gone missing
2. Phone records and sent sms gone missing
3. After reboot sms takes awhile to reappear

How to solve this bug retrieve your emails. Then u see it immediately reappear.

2nd person i recommend keep asking why this phone dont have whatsapp all his friends got he dont have. Very limited apps.

3rd person complaining about the camera he said so called carl zeiss he said his Nokia N95 take better photos then this.

4th person tested lumia 800 and said why N9 what also dont have look the same feel the same but totally different more to negative

I only can conclude the Nokia N9 is not for everyone.

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Perhaps 2ne2 is talking about now, not when n9 first launch. N9 launch 1st, then lumia 800 and 710. Launching yes, I had to wait 1 month for my 64GB n9. Now the 16GB easy to get


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