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scorps
post Feb 9 2007, 11:38 PM

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QUOTE(1024kbps @ Feb 9 2007, 10:18 PM)
How about this?
http://img177.imageshack.us/img177/8301/clipboard01ue0.gif
my download speed always below 50kBps...
here is what i got from tmnutz speedometer:
http://img169.imageshack.us/img169/8334/clipboard01wu2.gif
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what package are u using??
if package RM66/RM77
that should normal average 50kbps

but if package RM88/RM99,
that should be a problemm
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QUOTE(scorps @ Feb 9 2007, 11:38 PM)
what package are u using??
if package RM66/RM77
that should normal average 50kbps

but if package RM88/RM99,
that should be a problemm
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yeah i think they capped my bandwidth shakehead.gif
im pretty sure im using basic 1.0 M,
my "mutimedia registration confirmation slip" still here,
"ref. service type: screamyx basic 1.0m - rm77 free modem (festival pakage)" vmad.gif
thier cs said i have "internal wiring problem",
and second time they said they have reconfigured my account setting rolleyes.gif
over one week already my peak download speed still below 50kbps... =.=
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post Feb 11 2007, 03:34 PM

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Downstream Upstream

SNR Margin :7.0 15.0 db

Line Attenuation:63.5 31.0 db

Data Rate:1152 512 kbps


complained to them. they keep claiming that they had fixed dslam
cable n stuff. just now they we're fixing something and snr margin up by 1 point. before this 6.5 .

should i keep making complaints n report till i had above 10 or something?

my line still blinks heavily when i play games..
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QUOTE(ScaRL @ Feb 11 2007, 03:34 PM)
Downstream  Upstream 
 
SNR Margin  :7.0  15.0  db
 
Line Attenuation:63.5  31.0  db
 
Data Rate:1152  512  kbps
complained to them. they keep claiming that they had fixed dslam
cable n stuff.  just now they we're fixing something and snr margin up by 1 point. before this 6.5 .

should i keep making complaints n report till i had above 10 or something?

my line still blinks heavily when i play games..
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Buy a new phone socket and replace the old 1. May increase a bit.
Or else, call 100 , to have new cabling to ur modem.
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post Feb 11 2007, 04:05 PM

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phone socket eh? they have replace that last year .
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post Feb 11 2007, 04:27 PM

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Call TM at 100 and report to them of a low SNR margin. Have them to check your copper wire.
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post Feb 11 2007, 11:15 PM

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erm well, streamyx tech guys and tm came over my house today.
i try to explain them about SNR margin and line anttenuation, they just don't seem to care about it or don't understand.

they told me that, as long as you can connect and surf google / yahoo / streamyx website without blinking ( aka normal surf ) , then the line pass.

but anyhow, the promise to check cable tomorrow. see how it goes..
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post Feb 12 2007, 12:57 PM

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don't rely on the TM workers, just like u called up 1800 CS, they asked to bypass splitters, on-off modem, reset IE setting defaults, this and that those useless procedures.

try contact with sub contractor of TM, they may do well job, and pay a little bucks for re-wiring.

I've wrote a couple email to TM support center, and i get ignored. They choose to keep quiet.
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post Feb 12 2007, 07:34 PM

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QUOTE(unstoppable @ Nov 26 2005, 10:35 PM)
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Uauuu,you have Line attenuation 60dB,3 loss of signal(but is that second?).
You have problem,it can be from cable from DSLAM to Modem,PBX to DSLAM,
couple in phone distribution cabinet,or DSL spliter is gone,it dont separate the frequency for Voice range from DSL range.SNR margin is a statistic which can not help you to solve the problem. So Call on your ISP to test the line with loop tester.


Added on February 12, 2007, 7:54 pm
QUOTE(ScaRL @ Feb 11 2007, 06:15 PM)
erm well, streamyx tech guys and tm came over my house today.
i try to explain them about SNR margin and line anttenuation, they just don't seem to care about it or don't understand. 

they told me that, as long as you can connect and surf google / yahoo / streamyx website without blinking ( aka normal surf ) , then the line pass.

but anyhow, the promise to check cable tomorrow. see how it goes..
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smile.gif,so my advice is - Change your ISP, very bad support,so you paying for support with include monthly tax, then your support must test the line,if dont have aby problems,than yes,but in that case?
I'm from ADSL support of Bulgarian Telecommunication Company(btc.bg)
We doing the test first,than if problem is in customer,we explain to him what to do .

This post has been edited by gochev.george: Feb 12 2007, 07:54 PM
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post Feb 15 2007, 10:13 PM

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The TM Nut guy told me that they fixed my error...
Now!

Modem Status

Connection Status Connected
Us Rate (Kbps) 128 <-- Why so low already? Upload cannot reach 20KB and I am seeding torrents! Used to get 512
Ds Rate (Kbps) 512 <-- Why so low already? Download speed cannot exceed 58KB at all! Used to get 1404
US Margin 24 <--Whoa! higher than last time... 11
DS Margin 17 <--Whoa! higher than last time 8
Trained Modulation ADSL_G.dmt
LOS Errors 0
DS Line Attenuation 63 <-- Never changer before at all!!!
US Line Attenuation 31 <-- Same!!!!
Peak Cell Rate 301 cells per sec
CRC Rx Fast 6
CRC Tx Fast 1
CRC Rx Interleaved 0
CRC Tx Interleaved 0
Path Mode Fast Path

Darn!!! Still facing disconnection problem... Did TM Nut really fix my problem? vmad.gif
I still can get Ds Rate 1304 and Us Rate 512 yesterday!!! What they want from me hah?

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post Feb 23 2007, 04:50 PM

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QUOTE(HeHeHunter @ Feb 15 2007, 05:13 PM)
The TM Nut guy told me that they fixed my error...
Now!

Modem Status

Connection Status   Connected
Us Rate (Kbps)   128 <-- Why so low already? Upload cannot reach 20KB and I am seeding torrents! Used to get 512
Ds Rate (Kbps)   512 <-- Why so low already? Download speed cannot exceed 58KB at all! Used to get 1404
US Margin   24 <--Whoa! higher than last time... 11
DS Margin   17 <--Whoa! higher than last time 8
Trained Modulation   ADSL_G.dmt
LOS Errors   0
DS Line Attenuation   63 <-- Never changer before at all!!!
US Line Attenuation   31 <-- Same!!!!
Peak Cell Rate   301 cells per sec
CRC Rx Fast   6
CRC Tx Fast   1
CRC Rx Interleaved   0
CRC Tx Interleaved   0
Path Mode   Fast Path

Darn!!! Still facing disconnection problem... Did TM Nut really fix my problem? vmad.gif
I still can get Ds Rate 1304 and Us Rate 512 yesterday!!! What they want from me hah?
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You're on long distance from DSLAM,that's the reason for your attenuation of 63dB
Max is 4500m,if more you have to switch of the phone device.
We tested before one ADSL ove Pots,Annex A on 8000m from DSLAM,he cant up more than 6dB SNR margin and attenuation on DSL line was 69dB,and when he open some url,DSL goes unhinge from DSLAM,couse the noise on DSL Output Power going to 28dB,it have to be for normal operate in interval-6dB to -3 max in case when you do not use Browsing or downloading(quiet mode).
Your ISP must set there nearly to you one more DSL Concentrator,example CISCO 6500,2 switch(BRAS) and some routers to backup the line,but that need a budget smile.gif


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post Feb 23 2007, 08:06 PM

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QUOTE(gochev.george @ Feb 23 2007, 04:50 PM)
You're on long distance from DSLAM,that's the reason for your attenuation of 63dB
Max is 4500m,if more you have to switch of the phone device.
We tested before one ADSL ove Pots,Annex A on 8000m from DSLAM,he cant up more than 6dB SNR margin and attenuation on DSL line was 69dB,and when he open some url,DSL goes unhinge from DSLAM,couse the noise on DSL Output Power going to 28dB,it have to be for normal operate in interval-6dB to -3 max in case when you do not use Browsing or downloading(quiet mode).
Your ISP must set there nearly to you one more DSL Concentrator,example CISCO 6500,2 switch(BRAS) and some routers to backup the line,but that need a budget smile.gif
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Do you know the tower box?
The cable box at the tiang that connects 2 poles?

A TM guy direct a line to my modem and the line attenuation is 63 and 31.
SNR margin is 11 for both DS and US.

Oh! I forget TM Nut guy change my port again!!!

Connection Status Connected
Us Rate (Kbps) 384
Ds Rate (Kbps) 1024
US Margin 11
DS Margin 11
Trained Modulation ADSL_G.dmt
LOS Errors 0
DS Line Attenuation 63
US Line Attenuation 31

However, after they direct cable to my modem, My disconnection time is around 2 hrs
I hope they don't say is my internal wiring problem... Because I just use a new cable just for three months just because of streamyx.
Note: I have 3 parallel lines. Which means, a cable come from the cable box is splitted into three(all same fixed line number). 2 for phones(2 year old cable) and 1 for screamyx(3 months old cable). That TM guy direct a cable to my modem and now i can connect internet with 2 hrs disconnection but I can no longer use my other 2 house phones! Tell me what should I do? I need to use the house phone for fax, internet and particularly chatting!

Another matter is, i will never be able to connect the internet if my house phone is plugged in. It is either to choose, internet or phone calls...

I think i feel like I am using back 56k modem...
Just the speed is slightly faster.

Please teach me what should I do, Sifu, sensei!!

Sensei, why my neighbour can connect with no problem?
Last time I tap his wireless line and never get disconnected. Of course using his internet with permission.

This post has been edited by HeHeHunter: Feb 23 2007, 08:11 PM
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post Feb 26 2007, 12:59 PM

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QUOTE(HeHeHunter @ Feb 23 2007, 09:06 PM)
Do you know the tower box?
The cable box at the tiang that connects 2 poles?

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that call distribution point box
or DP box..


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post Feb 27 2007, 02:56 AM

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I also face the low SNR margin problem (4-6), I always get the adsl sync's drop problem.

Now I'm using PPPOA on the aztech 600e instead of my netgear WGR614 v5 and I don't have anymore disconnections. However if I surf international websites it's slower than dial-up! Local website have the normal speed.

When my SNR is 10, I won't have disconnection on the netgear, but problem is my snr is always at 6.

EDIT: my connections become worse, reverted to using netgear cry.gif

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post Mar 7 2007, 12:22 AM

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this is mine

DSL Status: UP
DSL Modulation Mode: Auto
DSL Path Mode: INTERLEAVED
Downstream Rate: 2048 Kbps
Upstream Rate: 1024 Kbps
Downstream Margin: 3 db
Upstream Margin: 4 db
Downstream Line Attenuation: 53
Upstream Line Attenuation: 57
Downstream Transmit Power: 14
Upstream Transmit Power: 0
LOS Errors: 0

can check which one is SNR ?
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post Mar 7 2007, 01:00 AM

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QUOTE(bluhapp @ Mar 7 2007, 01:22 AM)
this is mine

DSL Status:  UP
DSL Modulation Mode:  Auto
DSL Path Mode:  INTERLEAVED
Downstream Rate:  2048 Kbps
Upstream Rate:  1024 Kbps
Downstream Margin:  3 db
Upstream Margin:  4 db
Downstream Line Attenuation:  53
Upstream Line Attenuation:  57
Downstream Transmit Power:  14
Upstream Transmit Power:  0
LOS Errors:  0

can check which one is SNR ?
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Downstream Margin: 3 db
Upstream Margin: 4 db


have u get any problem like disconnect ??
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post Mar 7 2007, 04:42 AM

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Modem Status

Connection Status Connected
Us Rate (Kbps) 512
Ds Rate (Kbps) 1536
US Margin 22
DS Margin 31
Trained Modulation ADSL_G.dmt
LOS Errors 0
DS Line Attenuation 38
US Line Attenuation 15
Peak Cell Rate 1207 cells per sec
CRC Rx Fast 0
CRC Tx Fast 0
CRC Rx Interleaved 0
CRC Tx Interleaved 1
Path Mode Interleaved
DSL Statistics

Near End F4 Loop Back Count 0
Near End F5 Loop Back Count 0


is this good enough?it shows 1536 but i dont get that speed ._.
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post Mar 7 2007, 04:44 AM

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@scorps.. random disconnect.. nope.. but when ppl call or when ppl using the home phone, DC a.. then the margin become very high number .. 214XXXXXXXX X<-- random number..

i think its because the phone is cordless wan. my fren use the same phone model. also DC when use phone. haizz
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post Mar 7 2007, 04:51 AM

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QUOTE(arshad @ Mar 7 2007, 05:42 AM)
Modem Status

Connection Status    Connected
Us Rate (Kbps)    512
Ds Rate (Kbps)    1536
US Margin    22
DS Margin    31
Trained Modulation    ADSL_G.dmt
LOS Errors    0
DS Line Attenuation    38
US Line Attenuation    15
Peak Cell Rate    1207 cells per sec
CRC Rx Fast    0
CRC Tx Fast    0
CRC Rx Interleaved    0
CRC Tx Interleaved    1
Path Mode    Interleaved
DSL Statistics

Near End F4 Loop Back Count    0
Near End F5 Loop Back Count    0
is this good enough?it shows 1536 but i dont get that speed ._.
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what package that u using??
@ bluhapp>>maybe u can ask tecnichan of telekom about that problem

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post Mar 7 2007, 08:41 AM

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@scrops
1 mb la but when playing css damn lag

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