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post Apr 11 2006, 04:17 PM

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QUOTE(Suk @ Apr 11 2006, 03:28 AM)
Link Status  Connected
Us Rate (Kbps)  512
Ds Rate (Kbps)  1024
US Margin  27
DS Margin  31
Modulation  MMODE
LOS Errors  0
DS Line Attenuation  18
US Line Attenuation  14
Path Mode  Fast Path

planning to downgrade to RM66
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why??

and why u choose the modulation as mmode??
why not glite??
tell me what the different between this mode?? rclxub.gif
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post Apr 14 2006, 11:02 PM

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QUOTE(samsunix @ Apr 14 2006, 11:50 PM)
This is my noise margin during the time period of 7pm-2am....occur everyday 24/7! The noise margin will go back to normal after that time period. Anybody know why?? Izzit my phone line problem or TMNUT prob??? vmad.gif
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tmnut..
congest line appear..
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post Jun 21 2006, 11:34 PM

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QUOTE(Ree73 @ Jun 18 2006, 02:30 AM)
I got this reading, the best SNR yet in LYN... notworthy.gif

That is the NEGATIVE SNR value!!! -17!!! Sometimes I even get -43!!!
But I never face any DC problem, this will only effect my upload/download activity.
I keep getting DNS error and no activity...
My Aztech 900EB2 modem can survive this low SNR value sweat.gif

Facing this problem since April,2006. Already made 6 reports regarding this.

Finally, a technician come to my house and said, your capacitance 100% (SNR), there is nothing I can do. It takes time to change the line. He added, no one complain in your area, you are the only one, it is hard for him to change the whole cable just because one case.
He also stated that the exchange in the main center ok, the problem occur at the inter exchange near my place.

WTH, nothing they can do? I am paying the $$$ and i get this reply.

BTW, I am staying in Penang, according to the technician, my inter exchange at Jelutong...
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that their policy,
user /customer can't make anything...

or u can try to ask them about change the phone line also,
when phone line is change to a new one,
hope that new line is ok too for streamyx connection....
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post Dec 25 2006, 09:37 AM

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QUOTE(Jerrylim @ Dec 25 2006, 09:58 AM)
dude....wat is DSLAM-Phone line ?
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DSLAM

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post Jan 15 2007, 09:48 PM

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QUOTE(nerd @ Jan 15 2007, 10:41 PM)
I'm one of the users of my house's wireless network, and I get very frequent disruptions lately.
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sometimew not becoz your line sucks..
but your modem /router get hangs and cannot handle transfer a lot of data packet
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post Feb 3 2007, 06:42 PM

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QUOTE(highwind100 @ Feb 3 2007, 05:47 PM)
Just wanna ask you experts whether my line is bad or not? Heres the reading

Thank you  smile.gif  smile.gif  smile.gif
DSL Status:    UP       
        DSL Modulation Mode:  T1413     
        DSL Path Mode:  INTERLEAVED     
        Downstream Rate:  1024 Kbps     
        Upstream Rate:  512 Kbps     
        Downstream Margin:  30 db     
        Upstream Margin:  25 db     
        Downstream Line Attenuation:  39     
        Upstream Line Attenuation:  16     
        Downstream Transmit Power:  0     
        Upstream Transmit Power:  0

then i did another time when the line went from bad to worse

  DSL Status:    UP       
        DSL Modulation Mode:  T1413     
        DSL Path Mode:  INTERLEAVED     
        Downstream Rate:  992 Kbps     
        Upstream Rate:  224 Kbps     
        Downstream Margin:  1 db     
        Upstream Margin:  7 db     
        Downstream Line Attenuation:  51     
        Upstream Line Attenuation:  31     
        Downstream Transmit Power:  0     
        Upstream Transmit Power:  0
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u should refer for the first post

SN Margin (AKA Signal to Noise Margin or Signal to Noise Ratio)
Relative strength of the DSL signal to Noise ratio. 6dB is the lowest dB manufactures specify for modem to be able to synch. In some instances interleaving* can help raise the noise margin to an acceptable level. The higher the number the better for this measurement.
> 6dB or below is bad and will experience no synch or intermittent synch problems
> 7dB-10dB is fair but does not leave much room for variances in conditions
> 11dB-20dB is good with no synch problems
> 20dB-28dB is excellent
> 29dB or above is outstanding

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post Feb 6 2007, 05:40 AM

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QUOTE(DarReNz @ Feb 6 2007, 03:01 AM)
Hi guys,

Here are my modem stats,

Modem Status
Connection Status  Connected
Us Rate (Kbps) 512
Ds Rate (Kbps) 1024
US Margin 17
DS Margin 15
Modulation MMODE
LOS Errors 0
DS Line Attenuation 50
US Line Attenuation 50
Path Mode Interleaved

 
DSL Statistics
Near End F4 Loop Back Count  0
Near End F5 Loop Back Count 0


I know they are crap and i keep getting disconnections every 5-10 mins very frequently at night everday ....... should I call TM or TMNet since I saw some of you suggested TM and some say TMNet ? Thanks
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TM becoz this problem about the cable ,
but don't so sure,

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post Feb 9 2007, 11:38 PM

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QUOTE(1024kbps @ Feb 9 2007, 10:18 PM)
How about this?
http://img177.imageshack.us/img177/8301/clipboard01ue0.gif
my download speed always below 50kBps...
here is what i got from tmnutz speedometer:
http://img169.imageshack.us/img169/8334/clipboard01wu2.gif
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what package are u using??
if package RM66/RM77
that should normal average 50kbps

but if package RM88/RM99,
that should be a problemm
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post Feb 26 2007, 12:59 PM

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QUOTE(HeHeHunter @ Feb 23 2007, 09:06 PM)
Do you know the tower box?
The cable box at the tiang that connects 2 poles?

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that call distribution point box
or DP box..


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post Mar 7 2007, 01:00 AM

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QUOTE(bluhapp @ Mar 7 2007, 01:22 AM)
this is mine

DSL Status:  UP
DSL Modulation Mode:  Auto
DSL Path Mode:  INTERLEAVED
Downstream Rate:  2048 Kbps
Upstream Rate:  1024 Kbps
Downstream Margin:  3 db
Upstream Margin:  4 db
Downstream Line Attenuation:  53
Upstream Line Attenuation:  57
Downstream Transmit Power:  14
Upstream Transmit Power:  0
LOS Errors:  0

can check which one is SNR ?
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Downstream Margin: 3 db
Upstream Margin: 4 db


have u get any problem like disconnect ??
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post Mar 7 2007, 04:51 AM

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QUOTE(arshad @ Mar 7 2007, 05:42 AM)
Modem Status

Connection Status    Connected
Us Rate (Kbps)    512
Ds Rate (Kbps)    1536
US Margin    22
DS Margin    31
Trained Modulation    ADSL_G.dmt
LOS Errors    0
DS Line Attenuation    38
US Line Attenuation    15
Peak Cell Rate    1207 cells per sec
CRC Rx Fast    0
CRC Tx Fast    0
CRC Rx Interleaved    0
CRC Tx Interleaved    1
Path Mode    Interleaved
DSL Statistics

Near End F4 Loop Back Count    0
Near End F5 Loop Back Count    0
is this good enough?it shows 1536 but i dont get that speed ._.
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what package that u using??
@ bluhapp>>maybe u can ask tecnichan of telekom about that problem

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post Mar 14 2007, 07:07 PM

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QUOTE(vyzc @ Mar 14 2007, 06:11 PM)
But why is my line attenuation so high and noise margin so low? Should I ask them to check on my line quality?
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u can give a try,maybe your cable getting worse somewhere,
maybe in D.P box,or in cabinet,
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post Mar 16 2007, 05:26 AM

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QUOTE(jimmy.soo @ Mar 16 2007, 06:08 AM)
Aztech 600E

Modem Status
Connection Status  Connected
Us Rate (Kbps)  512
Ds Rate (Kbps)  1024
US Margin  25
DS Margin  18
Trained Modulation  GDMT 
LOS Errors  0
DS Line Attenuation  25
US Line Attenuation  14
Peak Cell Rate  1207 cells per sec
CRC Rx Fast  0
CRC Tx Fast  0
CRC Rx Interleaved  0
CRC Tx Interleaved  0
Path Mode  Interleaved


DSL Statistics
Near End F4 Loop Back Count  0
Near End F5 Loop Back Count  0

hows mine looks like??? izzit stable and fast enough?
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i think it ok,
your line stable,
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post Mar 19 2007, 05:09 PM

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QUOTE(mlisj @ Mar 19 2007, 05:41 PM)
Im using a WRT54G router and a modem provided by streamyx..i think it is Bipac 5112S modem. is there any way to masure the SNR margin with this hardware..coz the modem page doesnt show such diagnostics..plz help im experiecning frequent disconnections
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i think your modem is in bridge mode,and router as pppoe mode,
then u can try to look on router linksys web managment and see the snr margin
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post Mar 19 2007, 05:46 PM

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QUOTE(mlisj @ Mar 19 2007, 06:34 PM)
Downstream Upstream

SNR Margin

:
10.0 19.0 db

Line Attenuation

:
58.0 31.0 db

Data Rate

:
3072 512 kbps
Is this good or bad??
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your line attenuation 50dB-60dB is poor and may experience connectivity issues

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post Mar 19 2007, 10:34 PM

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QUOTE(TheXxBestxX @ Mar 19 2007, 05:02 PM)
is my line is good or bad?

user posted image

my download speed:

user posted image

i subscribe to RM 66 512/256K package without modem. i have aztech dsl600ew.
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your line quite ok for me, rclxms.gif
for your info,tm capped the port all to get that value of downstream and upstream,

and the speed that u get, i think better u test with speedometer to get the right speed

refer here:>> http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/232247 brows.gif
http://www.speedtest.net/

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post Mar 19 2007, 11:18 PM

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Downstream SNR = 15 dB.

Higher is better, minimum = 6 dB.

Downstream Power = < 15 dBm.

Lower is better.

Upstream SNR = 10 dB.

Higher is better.

Upstream Power = < 15 dBm.

Lower is better.

Downstream Attenuation = < 30 dB

Lower is better, maximum = 60 dB.

Upstream Attenuation = < 30 dB

Lower is better, maximum = 60 dB.



3.2 ADSL2+

Downstream SNR = 06 dB.

Higher is not better, within range is better = 05 - 07 dB.

Downstream Power = < xx dBm.

Lower is better.

Upstream SNR = 06 dB.

Higher is not better, within range is better = 05 - 07 dB.

Upstream Power = < xx dBm.

Lower is better.

Downstream Attenuation = < 22 dB

Lower is better, maximum = 22 dB (for 10mbps), 12 dB (for ~25mbps).

Upstream Attenuation = < 22 dB

Lower is better, maximum = 22 dB (for 10mbps), 12 dB (for ~25mbps).



Attenuation to Loop Length Conversion

10 dB ~ 0500 m
15 dB ~ 1000 m
25 dB ~ 2000 m
35 dB ~ 2500 m
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QUOTE(aladdin @ Mar 21 2007, 12:58 AM)
With RM66 package 512Kbps??? OMG rclxub.gif

look at mine....now suffering download problem with only 256kbps (with 512k package cry.gif )

anyone suffer this before..how to solve this problem
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your modem status look ok ..
and i think this is from TM side,report to then and ask them to check your line and your speed,

ok??
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QUOTE(aladdin @ Mar 22 2007, 07:34 PM)
wrong capped line....so which side i should report to? tm  (100) or streamyx (1300 88 9515 )?
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report TM
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QUOTE(lexu2005 @ Mar 23 2007, 05:52 PM)
Since my DS margin is very low(6-7db), I'm guessing my house is located far away from the DSLAM.

After I have report this case to TMNet, then the technician have do the checking to DSLAM.

The technician have told me that the distance from my house to DSLAM exchange is only 3.5KM.

After that, nothing have been changed(still disconnection happen)...

REALLY CANNOT EXPECT SOMETHING MORE FROM TMNut!!! 
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that problem from TM cable,
they will not change the whole cable just becoz one or 2 users get the problem..

have u try with another modem??how the result with another modem??


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