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 Full P3-21A Specs and Info!

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BuFung
post Mar 2 2012, 10:41 AM

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Turbo.. ask u kful liao.. I warn the army is coming.. u never listen... tongue.gif laugh.gif
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QUOTE(BuFung @ Mar 2 2012, 10:41 AM)
Turbo..  ask u kful liao..  I warn the army is coming..  u never listen... tongue.gif  laugh.gif
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friday, just make the thread move faster biggrin.gif
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post Mar 2 2012, 10:56 AM

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the usual suspects are here, V12, buF, turbo.. LOL tongue.gif
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post Mar 2 2012, 11:08 AM

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QUOTE(ar188 @ Mar 2 2012, 10:56 AM)
the usual suspects are here, V12, buF, turbo.. LOL tongue.gif
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who who who?? shocking.gif shocking.gif

and ar1... .. .. ..
marquis
post Mar 2 2012, 12:14 PM

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I've been observing this thread since day 1. About time I see more rational forumers here. It's starting to feel like the old days of the forum now. Not just stupid-talk and measuring of e-penis. Heh.

To keep on topic, does anyone know if it will be mid this month or if it will be really pushed to the end of the month. I need a new car...and will probably be an early adopter of the P3-21A biggrin.gif

The highest spec one...will it have leather seats? I think it's been asked several times but no answer as of yet.

On a side-note, the idiotic-bashers should just stfu and gtfo. I mean, really. You complain and treat proton like it's so horrible. They're finally making a move in the right direction. Credit where it's due.

Buy beemer better la, merc better la blah blah blah. Your self confidence so little is it? Must be "endorsed" by some foreign brand to make yourself feel better about your sorry self? I pitty those fools (Imagine Mr. T style).

I had an old A6. A friend drives the 525i. Another one the Diana Merc. You know how much we have to pay for maintenance? If the bloody car breaks down, bloody hell, parts for the A6 is hell to find. It's been in the workshop for god knows how many months now.

If the proton breaks down? Heh. Easy-peasy-lemon-squeezy. Cheap to boot. No need to wait for my mechanic to source for the parts. Or even worse - he can't source for it and asks me to do it. I don't have the time man.

On another note, the only gripe I have with Proton is the old days when they used to export the higher QC cars...at a lower price. While we get the shite cars and the higher price.

They've improved since, and I think they should be given a chance to prove themselves.

Damn, my post became a wall of text. Sorry guys. Just thought I'd chip in my two pence worth.
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post Mar 2 2012, 12:28 PM

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i heard even hi spec also no leather.but high quality fabric,water resistant..
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frank.. to me.. leather seat not essential to me.. find good fabric last longer and more practical ...
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post Mar 2 2012, 12:56 PM

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QUOTE(eistern @ Mar 2 2012, 12:28 PM)
i heard even hi spec also no leather.but high quality fabric,water resistant..
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AFAIK, as being told earlier,premium line will get the cow..ish, n executive@middle line gets hq water repellant fabric, standard@baseline gets normal fabric as standard in any prtn nowadays. Dunno whether they make final change. But yesterday, i think some of people being called up to prtn hq for product intro n seeing car in real lives.


Added on March 2, 2012, 12:58 pmbro turbocharged, as u mentioned,its friday :-), we are all brothers here rite. Keep on posting, if not, quite bored if no one post comment here.

This post has been edited by mat79: Mar 2 2012, 12:58 PM
MR_alien
post Mar 2 2012, 01:02 PM

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QUOTE(BuFung @ Mar 2 2012, 12:43 PM)
frank.. to me..  leather seat not essential to me..  find good fabric last longer and more practical ...
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agree this
leather for me is just absorbing heat and its quite slippery
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post Mar 2 2012, 02:01 PM

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To be honest I like our leather sofa a lot. Had some plushy sofa before, also okay, but leather is so much nicer.

It's not necessary though, and I'm afraid the material won't last that long. If anything I want to be able to chose if I want leather or not... instead of if I want 6 airbags I need to pick leather too. Unfortunately the government doesn't allow that it seems...

marquis: Driving a conti (7 years old though) I never encountered that the mechanic asks me to source for parts, seems like TC can order anything they need. However it will take a while, that's true (and when they say a few days it means a few weeks...). Also if I order through them I will have to pay a lot for the convenience... sourcing myself I can save a lot.

Also if you drive a Savvy it's not so easy to get the engine or gearbox fixed...

Anyway, maybe P1 should have worked with some other company for the engine...? I mean Renault motors are used in Nissans. PSA and BMW worked together on an engine for models from BMW, Citroen and Peugeot. Mercedes is supposed to get engines from Renault. Renault in turn will get Mercedes engines for it's Infiniti models. Even Proton used Renault and Mitsubishi motors.
Is it a pride thing that Proton only wants to use their own engines? Getting a 1.4 TSI for the P3-21A would be quite awesome (if mechanics are properly trained, but I wonder if they are fit to work on the CFE either...).
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0-100 < 10s...laju tu.. tongue.gif
100-0 < 40m...power tu..tongue.gif
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post Mar 2 2012, 05:14 PM

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guys, off topic a bit..

Proton's quality expert resign

http://www.btimes.com.my/articles/WOLF2/Article/

the BMW man,Dr. Wolfgang Karl Epple resign from Proton.
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let hope proton learn something abt QC from this guy
and continue his practice
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QUOTE(hr_elie @ Mar 2 2012, 05:14 PM)
guys, off topic a bit..

Proton's quality expert resign

http://www.btimes.com.my/articles/WOLF2/Article/

the BMW man,Dr. Wolfgang Karl Epple resign from Proton.
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Why resign?? Cannot tahan ke??
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QUOTE(Lowyat @ Mar 2 2012, 05:28 PM)
Why resign?? Cannot tahan ke??
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read la
want to worker closer to home
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QUOTE(MR_alien @ Mar 2 2012, 05:29 PM)
read la
want to worker closer to home
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And contract expired. He's on contract afterall. smile.gif
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post Mar 2 2012, 05:41 PM

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QUOTE(MR_alien @ Mar 2 2012, 05:29 PM)
read la
want to worker closer to home
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Even if he really kenot tahan, takkan he say so meh.

I guess only he knows the real reason behind it. Europe has another carmaker that is more challenging to manage than proton in terms of QC?? tongue.gif
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QUOTE(dares @ Mar 2 2012, 05:41 PM)
Even if he really kenot tahan, takkan he say so meh.

I guess only he knows the real reason behind it. Europe has another carmaker that is more challenging to manage than proton in terms of QC?? tongue.gif
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haha wonder which carmaker is more worst than Proton lolx tongue.gif
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QUOTE(kevintth @ Mar 2 2012, 05:43 PM)
haha wonder which carmaker is more worst than Proton lolx  tongue.gif
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Lotus? laugh.gif hahahaha....
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QUOTE(mat79 @ Mar 2 2012, 12:56 PM)
AFAIK, as being told earlier,premium line will get the cow..ish, n executive@middle line gets hq water repellant fabric, standard@baseline gets normal fabric as standard in any prtn nowadays. Dunno whether they make final change. But yesterday, i think some of people being called up to prtn hq for product intro n seeing car in real lives.


Added on March 2, 2012, 12:58 pmbro turbocharged, as u mentioned,its friday :-), we are all brothers here rite. Keep on posting, if not, quite bored if no one post comment here.
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Cow..ish? Like the old masterpiece kinda leather? I prefer those as opposed to the newer one. Easier to maintain laugh.gif

QUOTE(kadajawi @ Mar 2 2012, 02:01 PM)
To be honest I like our leather sofa a lot. Had some plushy sofa before, also okay, but leather is so much nicer.

It's not necessary though, and I'm afraid the material won't last that long. If anything I want to be able to chose if I want leather or not... instead of if I want 6 airbags I need to pick leather too. Unfortunately the government doesn't allow that it seems...

marquis: Driving a conti (7 years old though) I never encountered that the mechanic asks me to source for parts, seems like TC can order anything they need. However it will take a while, that's true (and when they say a few days it means a few weeks...). Also if I order through them I will have to pay a lot for the convenience... sourcing myself I can save a lot.

Also if you drive a Savvy it's not so easy to get the engine or gearbox fixed...

Anyway, maybe P1 should have worked with some other company for the engine...? I mean Renault motors are used in Nissans. PSA and BMW worked together on an engine for models from BMW, Citroen and Peugeot. Mercedes is supposed to get engines from Renault. Renault in turn will get Mercedes engines for it's Infiniti models. Even Proton used Renault and Mitsubishi motors.
Is it a pride thing that Proton only wants to use their own engines? Getting a 1.4 TSI for the P3-21A would be quite awesome (if mechanics are properly trained, but I wonder if they are fit to work on the CFE either...).
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I just find leather in a car to be much easier to maintain. Heat wouldn't be an issue if you get it tinted. The one that reflects heat and all. I think my mechanic is an idiot. And lazy. They can source they told me - but said upfront it'll be expensive. And said it's hard. So they would much rather I source for it. I did once, and got it for much cheaper - even they were surprised (well, I didn't source it per se, my friend did tongue.gif)

I think it's a good effort on their part though with trying so hard to use their own engine. Just that it's a hit or miss sometimes. In the days of yore lah. Now I think they're doing a much better job.

QUOTE(hr_elie @ Mar 2 2012, 05:14 PM)
guys, off topic a bit..

Proton's quality expert resign

http://www.btimes.com.my/articles/WOLF2/Article/

the BMW man,Dr. Wolfgang Karl Epple resign from Proton.
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Uh-oh. Somehow, this doesn't bode too well. sweat.gif


Come on guys! No more news leak?


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