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 Short Review on the Exora Bold

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vinorgouki
post Feb 19 2012, 08:19 AM

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QUOTE(luckykid5 @ Feb 19 2012, 01:23 AM)
my gawd. RM92 for 370km only? that is super costly, for a 1.6L car. moreover majority of your travel is in highway.

i wonder the CPS FC will be better without turbo?

My friend nissan livina 1.8L, for RM80, can go at least 450km onwards.

have to think twice before getting this car now
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im 100% city driving. Rpm around 2-3k. Haven't do my 1st service yet. So that's y a bit high fc I think.
Will report back how's the fc improve after the service.


Added on February 19, 2012, 8:26 am
QUOTE(Optiplex330 @ Feb 19 2012, 07:45 AM)
Generally speaking, a turbo charged engine is SUPPOSED to be using about 5% more fuel than a non-turbo version of the same engine. In exchange for that extra 5% fuel consumption, you can look forward to getting about 20% more power.

So in this case, the turbo charged 1.6 liter engine can look forward to performance similar to a 1.92 liter engine but uses less fuel than a normal aspirated 1.92 engine. A good deal.

Well, that's the theory anyway.
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Cps with turbo + cvt should be more fuel saver I think.
But my sa told me, according to the manufacture technical said, its using old campro engine addon with turbo. The cps engine cannot add turbo otherwise will crash the engine. that's what he told me la.

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post Feb 19 2012, 08:55 AM

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if exora bold or prime export to england komfom p1 rivals there tulan already
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post Feb 19 2012, 09:36 AM

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QUOTE(vinorgouki @ Feb 19 2012, 08:19 AM)
im 100% city driving. Rpm around 2-3k. Haven't do my 1st service yet. So that's y a bit high fc I think.
Will report back how's the fc improve after the service.


Added on February 19, 2012, 8:26 am

Cps with turbo + cvt should be more fuel saver I think.
But my sa told me, according to the manufacture technical said, its using old campro engine addon with turbo. The cps engine cannot add turbo otherwise will crash the engine. that's what he told me la.
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old campro with modification + turbo
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post Feb 20 2012, 10:08 AM

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my FC - 11.7l/100km or about RM85 for 381 km...

mostly 90% on road and on Monday - Friday only run about 30 km daily... Really high FC for short distance...

anyone here can hear the wind noise once hit 80kmh...
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post Feb 20 2012, 12:21 PM

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ok some updates and correction about my earlier post.
check my invoice from SC and it's stated 10/30. i suppose it's the same as manual's recommendation. when i mentioned 0/30, it was from memory and i could have been wrong.

got a question actually. the service booklet mention something about 5000km service interval and 10,000km service interval. the 5k interval is for heavy usage? i don't really understand what it means by that?

i was given the impression that proton with its recent badge is going for 10k service interval concept. i am actually planning for 10k service interval as well.

any problem with that? appreciate all sifu help here as i'm not a auto techie person.

thanks.

PS: planning to buy my own oil there in future. same brand, same viscosity of course. any issue with that from SC then?
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post Feb 20 2012, 12:25 PM

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QUOTE(kochin @ Feb 20 2012, 12:21 PM)
ok some updates and correction about my earlier post.
check my invoice from SC and it's stated 10/30. i suppose it's the same as manual's recommendation. when i mentioned 0/30, it was from memory and i could have been wrong.

got a question actually. the service booklet mention something about 5000km service interval and 10,000km service interval. the 5k interval is for heavy usage? i don't really understand what it means by that?

i was given the impression that proton with its recent badge is going for 10k service interval concept. i am actually planning for 10k service interval as well.

any problem with that? appreciate all sifu help here as i'm not a auto techie person.

thanks.

PS: planning to buy my own oil there in future. same brand, same viscosity of course. any issue with that from SC then?
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I went to 3 different SC and all 3 also still sticking to 5k service interval.

no issues with bringing own oil. But they will possibly brush off any responsibilities if there is anything happen to the engine. So if you plan to bring your own oil, make sure it is better and reputable ones. smile.gif

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ultramaman
post Feb 20 2012, 12:59 PM

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if based on the old gen2 service manual. heavy/severe usage means always hitting the redline, and driving in excess of 170km/h . if this is the case, then even the service interval for the gb is earlier
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post Feb 21 2012, 07:35 AM

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QUOTE(2die4 @ Feb 20 2012, 10:08 AM)
my FC - 11.7l/100km or about RM85 for 381 km...

mostly 90% on road and on Monday - Friday only run about 30 km daily... Really high FC for short distance...

anyone here can hear the wind noise once hit 80kmh...
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Yea, everyone does hear it. It's from the side mirror tho, no solution yet.

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post Feb 21 2012, 09:26 AM

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guys, any recommendation for good SA in klang/shah alam area?
went to pantai baru, disappointed with the SA- no knowledge about cars and surprisingly he doesnt know about the upcoming inspira SE, yet want to argue with me!
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post Feb 21 2012, 09:40 AM

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i live in shah alam, and i went to the one in pj. at least, they were aware of the correct oil type to use. even aware that many parts of the exora bold is different compared to the previous model.


Added on February 21, 2012, 9:42 amPJ Volcar Service Centre SDN. BHD.
No. 6, Jalan 21/19, Sea Park Complex Centre
Petaling Jaya 46300
Selangor

Tel: 03-78776194
Fax: 03-78776094


Added on February 21, 2012, 9:43 ambut if u going here... best u go early morning. they open at 8.30 by 9.30, all their bays are full. they get many loyal customers.

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post Feb 21 2012, 11:02 AM

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QUOTE(ultramaman @ Feb 20 2012, 12:59 PM)
if based on the old gen2 service manual. heavy/severe usage  means always hitting the redline, and driving in excess of 170km/h . if this is the case, then even the service interval for the gb is earlier
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Severe usage: City driving. Frequent stop & go. Frequent short distance traveling.

Non severe: Long distance highway at 90kph
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QUOTE(R80 @ Feb 21 2012, 09:26 AM)
guys, any recommendation for good SA in klang/shah alam area?
went to pantai baru, disappointed with the SA- no knowledge about cars and surprisingly he doesnt know about the upcoming inspira SE, yet want to argue with me!
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shah alam?

Proton Center of Service Excellence icon_rolleyes.gif < Proton HQ, needs booking since they are always full everyday. Or you can park yourself at there at 7am and be the early birds walk in customers.

or you can go the one at Glenmarie. smile.gif

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ultramaman
post Feb 21 2012, 11:41 AM

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QUOTE(Optiplex330 @ Feb 21 2012, 11:02 AM)
Severe usage: City driving. Frequent stop & go. Frequent short distance traveling.

Non severe: Long distance highway at 90kph
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that is severe ? if the engine is perpetually at low revs, then how ? the high revs are not sustained ma
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post Feb 21 2012, 11:57 AM

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QUOTE(V12Kompressor @ Feb 21 2012, 11:08 AM)
shah alam?

Proton Center of Service Excellence  icon_rolleyes.gif < Proton HQ, needs booking since they are always full everyday. Or you can park yourself at there at 7am and be the early birds walk in customers.

or you can go the one at Glenmarie.  smile.gif
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ok, will chk out glenmarie...thx

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post Feb 21 2012, 12:02 PM

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QUOTE(ultramaman @ Feb 21 2012, 11:41 AM)
that is severe ? if the engine is perpetually at low revs, then how ? the high revs are not sustained ma
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Water is produced during the combustion of Hydrocarbon (fuel) and air (oxygen).

Short distance does not allow the engine to be hot enough or hot long enough to remove all the water vapor produced. Water will contaminate the engine oil. Water is one reason why some people find engine oil level seldom goes down over time aka, not a good thing.

On the other hand. Long distance driving allows all the water in engine oil to be burned off and one reason why some people reported a drop in engine oil level after a long run aka, a good thing.



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post Feb 21 2012, 01:07 PM

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QUOTE(Optiplex330 @ Feb 21 2012, 12:02 PM)
Water is produced during the combustion of Hydrocarbon (fuel) and air (oxygen).

Short distance does not allow the engine to be hot enough or hot long enough to remove all the water vapor produced. Water will contaminate the engine oil. Water is one reason why some people find engine oil level seldom goes down over time aka, not a good thing.

On the other hand. Long distance driving allows all the water in engine oil to be burned off and one reason why some people reported a drop in engine oil level after a long run aka, a good thing.
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as long as the engine has reached it optimal operating temp, this shouldnt be a problem right ?
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post Feb 21 2012, 01:20 PM

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QUOTE(ultramaman @ Feb 21 2012, 01:07 PM)
as long as the engine has reached it optimal operating temp, this shouldnt be a problem right ?
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it should also have stayed at that optimal operating temperature long enough to do the job.

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QUOTE(Optiplex330 @ Feb 21 2012, 01:20 PM)
it should also have stayed at that optimal operating temperature long enough to do the job.
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not trying to argue or anything, but how long should it be to stay at the optimal operating temperature for all the water to vaporize properly ? tis is more for self knowledge .
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post Feb 21 2012, 01:33 PM

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QUOTE(ultramaman @ Feb 21 2012, 01:28 PM)
not trying to argue or anything, but how long should it be to stay at the optimal operating temperature for all the water to vaporize properly ?  tis is more for self knowledge .
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No idea. Your guess is as good as mine.

But all I know is, if we use the proper oil (viscosity & grade) and change according to manual schedule (either km traveled or how many months, whichever comes first), the chance of having engine oil related engine break down is as rare as getting struck by lightning. So I wouldn't worry too much over it.

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thanks. i also read online. water in the engine oil would make the color of the oil look murky, like coffee. so that is something to look out for.
http://www.carbibles.com/engineoil_bible.html


Added on February 21, 2012, 1:38 pmhttp://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20080808193028AAtNoGD

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