a normal semi syn can last 5,000km and good ones can be stretched to 7,000km. Anything beyond that is highly not recommended. I've seen people stretching their full syn for 20k km and I was like WTF?

my car had no problem too, but can hear engine noise n sometimes got a little suspension sound too.
but looks like my FC is quite big, my 1st fill full tank Ron95 only last 370km @RM92
now ODO already 700KM, FC is 12L/100KM. i expect the FC should be 9L/100KM.
Gonna c after 1st service got improve onot.


hahaha,u not statisfied SC, i not very statisfied my SA.


lol, 20000KM.

This post has been edited by vinorgouki: Feb 17 2012, 04:10 PM

my FC is around 470km@rm90... 80% hiway, 20% kl.... highway speed around 120km/h-140km/h, without using SAT yet coz i didnt know what is it before this... ODO right now already reach 1100km... will further study the FC when i travel Penang-KL again...

Wait till you have to claim engine warranty and then you will know void or not void. Legally, they have every right to void your warranty. I wouldn't advise you bringing your own oil.

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Added on February 17, 2012, 5:52 pmBig differences.

0W30 has to be Fully Synthetic.
10W30 can also be Mineral.

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Added on February 17, 2012, 5:54 pmIf manual says to use xW30 and you uses xW40 instead, you will feel lost of power.

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Added on February 17, 2012, 5:58 pm10K must be Fully Synthetic is the most common found urban legend in Malaysia. No such thing overseas and they must be laughing at Malaysian. In Europe, they have use Mineral for up to 65,000-km. So 10K is peanut.


This post has been edited by Optiplex330: Feb 17 2012, 06:07 PM

If something categorized as "wear and tear" item I also managed to claim warranty for it, "engine warranty" is peanut to me.

One of the main function of engine oil is to prevent 'wear and tear'. They can always say your own engine oil is not up to the job resulting in excessive wear and tear thus voiding warranty. Either you have technical expert to proof otherwise or forfeit warranty.

If I use good oil like Amsoil, Liqui Moly, Eneos etc. etc. and they void my warranty, and I decide to bring it to the tribunal, what are they gonna say?

"Minyak itu tak sebagus Petronas Syntium !!"

But I agree, if they wanna give you trouble, they will. Even if you win in the tribunal, it'll be after a hassle.

This post has been edited by dares: Feb 18 2012, 10:49 AM

The tribunal just can's simply take your word. So in that case, you must ask Amsoil, Liqu Moly, Eneos etc to send their oil specialists from abroad to appear in front of the tribunal to state your case for you. Do you think these companies will do that sending their specialist from USA or France or Italy? Even if they will, do you want to pay for their travel expenses and hotel and food etc? If you are, you are super rich and now driving a BMW or Rolls Royce already. Engine oil would be the least of your concern by now.

And even if you did managed to get those specialist from Amsoil etc, you still have to prove to Amsoil the Amsoil you bought from some spare part shops wasn't fake. Can you do that?

So what you are saying are just fairy tales. Not practical at all. And that's why I tell people if you value your warranty, just use SC oil.

This post has been edited by Optiplex330: Feb 18 2012, 10:55 AM

Do you think it will ever come to that? Even if it does happen all you need to do is get someone from Petronas and dare them to say that their oil is better. Unless Proton and Petronas wants a PR disaster on their hand, I would love to see how they'll spin it.

As for buying authentic oil or not, yes the onus is on you to prove it.

I never said it'll be hassle free.

A 'better' oil in the wrong engine will end in disaster. For example, if you put a super expensive RM50/liter 1st class Fully Synthetic 0W20 oil in your turbo charged Exora and you may see trouble whereas a cheapo RM10/liter Mineral 11W30 oil may fully protects it.

So all Petronas has to say is, "our oil is suitable for it's application" and that would be the end of it.

Oil problems aside, anybody else have vibration issues? I finally brought my Exora in for a balancing and found one of the tires bad.

The manual specifies 0w30 or above. If you put 0w20, well then too bad.

I can't see this discussion going anywhere anyhow, let's just agree to disagree and go back to discussing about the car itself.

Just so you know, I am using Petronas EO from Proton SCs because I don't want any trouble later. I just don't agree that Proton has any right to dictate that no other engine oil is better than what they are peddling, and would threaten to void the warranty simply because their customers know better.

Because it's Proton who will be footing the warranty bills, Proton has the sole right to decide which oil company they choose to deal with. And it has to be based more on commercial reason rather than technical reason. Because as you say, there are other oils from other companies that are equally or even better than Petronas's.

But if you are willing to foot the warranty bills yourself, then you have every right to choose your own oil. Until then, it's Proton's call.

my gawd. RM92 for 370km only? that is super costly, for a 1.6L car. moreover majority of your travel is in highway.

i wonder the CPS FC will be better without turbo?

My friend nissan livina 1.8L, for RM80, can go at least 450km onwards.

have to think twice before getting this car now

weird, he didn't specify that in the post. Moreover you don't know how is his driving style.

If CPS FC is better without turbo, then there is no need to spend hundred millions for CFE in the first place.

Take a look at other member's FC readings instead of only ONE before make the final judgement;

And do take note that FC isn't the engine factor only. It has lots of factor like weather condition (hot [noon]? cold [night/morning]?), road condition [level,steep, inclines, hilly], driver [light footer/heavy footer] and vehicle load [full load/half load/forever alone].

my bad. that was actually GenX comments earlier.

and my bad, i didnt read the previous posts. thanks goodness that the FC (if averagely RM90 for 450km) is still acceptable to me, considering this is a huge and heavy car.

if that's the case, then should be in my target car list already, rather than nissan livina

maybe one more factor is that the engine is not run in yet? (still new and less than 10k km well...)

i prefer maroon too ,unfortunately cannot afford it for thge time being

my fc. for 50 bucks is around 320km.

serviced my car at pj volcar sdn bhd. they are an authorized service center in paramount garden/seapark area.

the moment i walked in and i asked about engine oil. they said. this car must use 10-30.dlm buku wrote 10-30 sl rated. so that is what we pour. even exora cps factory pour is also 10-30 sl rated. ( so i'm relieved.)
on another thought. 10-30 sl rated means, later after a year, i can switch to lm ss mos2 10-30 as that is sl rated.

Generally speaking, a turbo charged engine is SUPPOSED to be using about 5% more fuel than a non-turbo version of the same engine. In exchange for that extra 5% fuel consumption, you can look forward to getting about 20% more power.

So in this case, the turbo charged 1.6 liter engine can look forward to performance similar to a 1.92 liter engine but uses less fuel than a normal aspirated 1.92 engine. A good deal.

Well, that's the theory anyway.