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jonchai
post Feb 1 2012, 02:27 PM

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QUOTE(marauderz @ Feb 1 2012, 01:22 PM)
I never said you're implying that "Buggy and success are correlated" But rather "Games that use XNA are buggy"

If XNA was that buggy, wouldn't that mean all the games on Windows Phone are just piles of buggy code waiting to explode whenever they're run?
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Look, if you were to quote what I wrote, please quote in full.

XNA being buggy is a known fact.

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I ain't saying you can't create games with it, but you'd hit a roadblocks most of the time if you do anything intense, especially if it involves a lot of physics because the engine itself is not mature enough.


Read what I wrote in full.

May I also know which part of my statement mention that GAMES (ALL GAMES, according to you) written in XNA are always buggy? All I said was, XNA is buggy and not mature enough. Devs would very often hit roadblocks when dealing with XNA. Then I gave you an example of a game written in XNA which is buggy but successful. Which part of my statements mention that all games that came out of XNA is buggy?

Edit: All these help support my point to allow devs native access so that they can use OpenGL / C++ (native access) to bring their games over.

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post Feb 1 2012, 09:09 PM

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post Feb 1 2012, 09:29 PM

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http://www.wpcentral.com/nokia-lumia-710-a...laysia-feb-10th

"Nokia Lumia 710 and 800 lands in Malaysia on Feb 10th"
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if to compare Nokia & HTC , nokia price slightly cheaper rolleyes.gif
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post Feb 1 2012, 11:34 PM

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XNA is great for light mobile games that is built ground up for Windows Phone. Light games account for probably 95% of the games on smartphones anyways.

But for more complicated games, I believe the effort to port is too huge that developers just won't do it.

Native code gives better performance when done right, but more effort needs to go into it to do it right. Microsoft probably make Silverlight and XNA mandatory so that new devs won't screw up the app experience too much, which giving exclusive rights to certain app developers to develop apps using native code, under tight scrutiny.

Should Microsoft give native code access to all developers? I don't know. It might screw up a lot of apps, but I only install good ones so I don't think it matters that much?
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QUOTE(xcen @ Feb 1 2012, 11:34 PM)
XNA is great for light mobile games that is built ground up for Windows Phone. Light games account for probably 95% of the games on smartphones anyways.

But for more complicated games, I believe the effort to port is too huge that developers just won't do it.

Native code gives better performance when done right, but more effort needs to go into it to do it right. Microsoft probably make Silverlight and XNA mandatory so that new devs won't screw up the app experience too much, which giving exclusive rights to certain app developers to develop apps using native code, under tight scrutiny.

Should Microsoft give native code access to all developers? I don't know. It might screw up a lot of apps, but I only install good ones so I don't think it matters that much?
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This is correct. I remember reading a post comparing C# (presumably on top of Silverlight) against native C++ in terms of performance and C# actually runs around 10s slower. No idea what's the benchmark about, but it looked convincing enough.

It is also rumored that Apollo will bring native access.

Microsoft has a strict app market policy, so if they detect something dodgy, the app will be pulled from market.

If you want more developers on board, you should first learn to trust your developers.
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QUOTE(evilpuppy @ Feb 1 2012, 09:09 PM)
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Hi evilpuppy, can you add my name to Omnia 7 owner list too biggrin.gif
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post Feb 2 2012, 09:48 AM

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post Feb 2 2012, 11:52 AM

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QUOTE(-ahtiang- @ Feb 2 2012, 09:36 AM)
Hi evilpuppy, can you add my name to Omnia 7 owner list too  biggrin.gif
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Same for me... Thank you. smile.gif
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QUOTE(-ahtiang- @ Feb 2 2012, 09:36 AM)
Hi evilpuppy, can you add my name to Omnia 7 owner list too  biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(buyoq @ Feb 2 2012, 09:48 AM)
htc hd7 user here smile.gif
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QUOTE(baoz @ Feb 2 2012, 11:52 AM)
Same for me... Thank you. smile.gif
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post Feb 2 2012, 02:52 PM

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Windows Phone MarketPlace now in Malaysia! http://www.malaysianwireless.com/2012/02/w...lumia-malaysia/
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QUOTE(scamboy @ Feb 2 2012, 02:52 PM)
Windows Phone MarketPlace now in Malaysia! http://www.malaysianwireless.com/2012/02/w...lumia-malaysia/
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yeap read it but i havent try it yet.
have u try it ?
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QUOTE(buyoq @ Feb 2 2012, 02:58 PM)
yeap read it  but i havent try it yet.
have u try it ?
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It mentioned that only Maxis supporting it via carrier billing, is it true? Sadly I am only Celcom and I cannot test sad.gif

the most funny thing is that Maxis has removed Windows Phone from their Devices page sad.gif

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no need to buy anything la.just try to browse the marketplace..by right,before this you cant even browse the marketplace if you used malaysian region.biggrin.gif
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wanna test it out, how to change marketplace region to malaysia?
tak tau tukar now... dont tell me need to change whole main live ID

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maybe change it MS Live website ?
done that but havent got the chance to try Marketplace yet.
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to all mozart users, i would like you to go to home page of your phone and press the bing search button... it takes 2 seconds for my mozart to go into bing...
example : click > wait 2 seconds > bing comes out

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QUOTE(JasonWilton @ Feb 2 2012, 04:06 PM)
to all mozart users, i would like you to go to home page of your phone and press the bing search button... it takes 2 seconds for my mozart to go into bing...
example : click > wait 2 seconds > bing comes out
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Same here.
Whats wrong?
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post Feb 2 2012, 04:14 PM

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I think my region is already set to Singapore sleep.gif Well, I guess I'll never buy anything from the marketplace until they change this stupid policy that prevents you from changing your country. So I guess I'll be FORCED to pirate stuff even though I'd rather pay for them. The concept of countries is stupid anyway.


Added on February 2, 2012, 4:15 pm
QUOTE(JasonWilton @ Feb 2 2012, 04:06 PM)
to all mozart users, i would like you to go to home page of your phone and press the bing search button... it takes 2 seconds for my mozart to go into bing...
example : click > wait 2 seconds > bing comes out
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Doesn't happen to me

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