Sharing an interesting article
http://www.timezone.com/2012/07/07/the-mil...-james-dowling/
The Watch Thread v4, no watch is 2 cheap or 2 pricey 2 talk
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 Oct 4 2012, 10:33 AM
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Oct 4 2012, 11:35 AM
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QUOTE(fremont88 @ Oct 4 2012, 07:11 AM) price tag is about 20k haha the price even more cool  |
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Oct 4 2012, 12:16 PM
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QUOTE(sniper on the roof @ Oct 4 2012, 01:20 AM) Everywhere I looked on the interweb, the debate about Panerai's tend to get nasty and frankly not very informative besides beating the dead horse so I hope the guru's here can help enlighten me a bit. Good information. Below are my 2 cents.. Personally I think Panerai's looks good and they seem very popular and like THE watch to wear these days and like you said, new movements and I really like the idea of a ceramic case (like my boss punya) But rich history? According to the interweb, they made like 300+ watches for the Italian Navy (not exactly the best fighting force in WW2) until the contract got canned. What about Hamilton Field Khaki's that were issued to WWII GI's... or the Rolex/Omegas that were smuggled into Britain to be issued to RAF Spitfire pilots during the darkest hour or the Seiko issued to Kamikaze pilots (wait... that won't sell) and Seiko divers favored by GI's in Vietnam that worked in the paddy fields and during love you long long time sessions. Or the modern timex, g-shocks etc favored by Navy SEALs etc and our own PASKAL? All those also can claim even richer history  Bit more military trivia... the Germans, British and Japanese also used commando manned torpedoes during the war though typical for Japanese forces in that era... they more garang and kamikaze with the torpedo and their seikos.  And the final thing I don't understand is ..... an Italian watch? I know OP's now Swiss but while Italians have great aesthetic designs, they're aren't exactly brilliant with mechanical stuff and neither are they the ideal image of a patient watchmaker (I've been working with them for the past 10 years )But respect-lah.. marketing coup d'etat of the century. Not easy to pull something like this off. This change my perspective on judging watch, I should look upon their history too, not their looks and prices. This post has been edited by pallidum: Oct 4 2012, 12:21 PM |
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Oct 4 2012, 01:49 PM
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Classical advert from 47 years ago.. I think the ad would still work today.
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Oct 4 2012, 02:06 PM
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Oct 4 2012, 02:52 PM
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QUOTE(sniper on the roof @ Oct 4 2012, 01:49 PM) Classical advert from 47 years ago.. I think the ad would still work today. THAT is my fave kind of sub... none of that cyclops and date nonsense |
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Oct 4 2012, 04:04 PM
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Another interesting read... HUGE wall of text but interesting nevertheless.
Hans Wilsdorf and Rolex backstory http://rolexblog.blogspot.tw/2010/07/we-wa...-and-rolex.html Panerai backstory and its relation with Rolex http://rolexblog.blogspot.tw/2009/07/part-...y-of-rolex.html Edit: Updated. This post has been edited by sniper on the roof: Oct 4 2012, 04:27 PM |
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Oct 4 2012, 04:21 PM
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the only advert i like is this
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Oct 4 2012, 04:38 PM
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Talking about ads,
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Oct 4 2012, 04:52 PM
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and of course... the famous cheesy one by Patek
 
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Oct 4 2012, 04:59 PM
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QUOTE(Everdying @ Oct 4 2012, 04:21 PM) the only advert i like is this This is truth and hence FTW. » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « 1969 example of why Seiko despite its heritage, is so underated. They don't understand marketing.  |
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Oct 4 2012, 05:11 PM
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that seiko ad looks so 80s.
problem with a few seiko ads are that they use asian celebrities...whereas asians rather see mat salleh Added on October 4, 2012, 5:12 pmthen again they do ads like this...  This post has been edited by Everdying: Oct 4 2012, 05:12 PM |
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Oct 4 2012, 09:29 PM
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The Grand Seiko is like Lexus...
Making a great product that can rub shoulders with some of the worlds best in its class... But at the end of the day, its gonna get knocked because it doesn't say "swiss made" on its dial... Pity that... (from a Lexus owner) |
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Oct 4 2012, 09:38 PM
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Hi fellow collectors
I am interested in purchasing this winder from groupon anyone interested to share the purchase? Pm for details Watch winder Thanks guys |
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Oct 4 2012, 09:49 PM
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Any invicta user?
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Oct 4 2012, 11:11 PM
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google told me that the watch collector community seems to have more love for mass murderers of cute baby seals and furry little puppies than the Invicta business model
Added on October 4, 2012, 11:12 pm QUOTE(yonggoh @ Oct 4 2012, 09:29 PM) The Grand Seiko is like Lexus... Ya...... but luxury marketing is really an art cos its never just about the product.Making a great product that can rub shoulders with some of the worlds best in its class... But at the end of the day, its gonna get knocked because it doesn't say "swiss made" on its dial... Pity that... (from a Lexus owner) This post has been edited by sniper on the roof: Oct 4 2012, 11:20 PM |
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Oct 5 2012, 10:08 AM
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QUOTE(^chalaza^ @ Oct 4 2012, 09:38 PM) Hi fellow collectors looks not bad and great price....but i don't think you can set the TPD...I am interested in purchasing this winder from groupon anyone interested to share the purchase? Pm for details Watch winder Thanks guys |
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Oct 5 2012, 11:59 AM
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QUOTE(yonggoh @ Oct 4 2012, 09:29 PM) The Grand Seiko is like Lexus... i pity u for feeling this. Making a great product that can rub shoulders with some of the worlds best in its class... But at the end of the day, its gonna get knocked because it doesn't say "swiss made" on its dial... Pity that... (from a Lexus owner) my next watch is going to be GS/Credor; and I will be proud of it. I am choosing it over explorer II. |
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Oct 5 2012, 12:30 PM
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QUOTE(patryn33 @ Oct 5 2012, 11:59 AM) i pity u for feeling this. ahh don't get me wrong... i personally don't discriminate against the houses of Grand Seiko and Credor...my next watch is going to be GS/Credor; and I will be proud of it. I am choosing it over explorer II. i was just highlighting a common public perception... The fact that you have chosen a one over the popular Explorer II is testament to its merits... one simply doesn't spend that sort of money without proper thought and deliberations so power to you.. Ive worn my G-Shock proudly to the workplace and meetings plenty of times when i could've worn my Daytona instead... Do take pics of your new acquisition |
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Oct 5 2012, 01:42 PM
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I think the Japanese needs to do more with their marketing to build a brand identity.
Having western sounding names for high end product don't really work. |
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