maybe could also start low krass worker talk for low krass worker like me.

I hired them, I trained them and one of them will succeed me one day. But as with all things in life, there are no absolutes.

you think mixing cement and piling up bricks like i do everyday
doesn't need skill and international exposure?

reserved that for reports

i'm in environmental industry
mostly our clients are marine company, jetty owners an power plant
i do very dirty work wan, everyday play with scrubber,
cleaning tanks

Many ppl always says accountant are nerds.

Can't think out of the box, only know how to follow policies, always sign here, approve there... Whereas engineers and sales ppl use more of their brain and tend to be more creative.

Perhaps accountants always sits inside the office facing their PC and din keep in touch to the outside world unlike sales guys.

This post has been edited by WyjSwmW: Jan 9 2012, 09:55 PM

was mechanical engineer from consultant in M&E firm (plumbing, water pumpsets sizing for dam/reservoir/water treatment plant, fire protection system, acmv, lift, escalator, t&c, sat) , then oil & gas operations project engineer (setup/expand/relocate plant & the layout with autocad from 1 location to another location, machines relocation, operations process to fabricate API/premium connections, machines maintenance, casing & tubing qualification, drilling fluids, etc), then inter-dept switch to qhse project engineer (9001, APIQ1, TS29001, 14k/18k, RA, PT/MPT/UT/RT, etc).

This post has been edited by ch_teo: Jan 9 2012, 09:58 PM

And most of the bosses dun like accountants as they work in cost centres.

Accountants is the only profession in the world to work in cost centres compare to engineers, doctors, pilots etc unless u work in the Big4 or banking industries.

cbb

This post has been edited by seantang: Jan 9 2012, 10:51 PM

im involving in the designs of MRT stations and bored tunnels. 3 years of working experiences

My thoughts exactly.

Anyone, I've got a chemical engineering fresh grad schoolmate (Monash Australia) trying to apply for job in singapore. Any good places to recommend?

u r one of the taikor in this LYN forum, henceforth, u r in high krass category.

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Added on January 9, 2012, 10:58 pmu need to master the art of taichi like me too.

there's one useful quote by Harry Truman: if you cannot convince them, confuse them.

This post has been edited by fbjkl: Jan 9 2012, 10:58 PM

first class honors ? ---> OnG companies

Not first class woh. 2nd class upper with Hons nia. >< Ideally is oil & gas, but assuming that doesn't work out, what's the next best alternative? (considering the singapore environment)

http://forums.salary.sg/income-jobs/866-re...-engineers.html

Seantang will not agree with you bro. My Spv can trace what errors are, and can save money millions from the carelessness of the other depts people in the coy. Ex: Transfer pricing, Hedging, Cost saving, Verification of raw material pricing, verification of PO. If he didn't trace all the mistakes, the coy will lose millions of dollar.

how fresh grad in malaysia can get into work in sg?
i'm fresh grad with advanced dip in accounting
partially acca

will be getting my degree soon

with my degree how to enter work in sg
i mean where to find work since i;m a malaysia
and how much the starting pay with a degree

google is your friend

Ah thanks. I am hoping the causeway is free from congestion in the wee hours.

How does verification of PO save money?
And verification of raw mat price is done by the purchasing dept.
Ok, I agree with u on transfer pricing, hedging, nego with bankers to reduce term loans rates, perhaps u do ur own tax comp to even help the company to save tax agent fees etc... But all these are not enough to be reflected in ur PL for the bosses to appreciate.

Unless u show them 2 PL side by side 1 without savings and 1 with savings, but in practice which dump do that?

Compare to engineers for instance, if there's a technology breakthrough this month that increase ur top and btm line vs last mth actual....then it is a different story altogether esp to top management that only see the actual figures.