Aisey you didn't watch the demo

Lazy lah. Since no interest on their product. I just see far away.

The heat pump more interesting.

Last time ask before. They told me that the ceramic 'thing' require to change after few yrs. but never say it is heating element.

I was the same too. Lazy to hear. Who selling heat pump?
This time homedec like very quiet, no many people hor?

Feel like abit small this time. Don't care got many people or less. Must have many lenglui.

I think should be this 1.



This post has been edited by ozak: Oct 25 2014, 06:32 PM

Oh the solar air conditioner
Leng lui - did you see those Isuzu leng Luis? Damn tall

Outside the hall right? I thaught why so tall. Than see bottom. 6" shoe. Ha......

I question them before, never give me exact number too.

See bottom

Oh I didn't notice the shoes, I only look as far as the thighs....

So tall, can scan bottom also.

Talk about tall, found a booth selling this ladder that can fold till very compact for small car. Max height 13ft. Similiar as what I have back 16yrs ago. Just abit shorter. For the price of rm700, guess not for ordinary people.

Beside that, got Korea babe. forget which booth. But selling Korea thing. Also ada 2 PRC at CRW booth. Selling toilet thing. He....

i'm particularly skeptical about this:

seems that they got the explaination for the standard AC right. but their optimization seems to defy physics.

the compressor produces heat because the compression of the AC gas releases heat. this produces heat and turn the gas to liquid. the heat needs to be removed from the liquid, hence the need for the condenser.

it makes no sense to superheat the liquid as it'll only make removal of heat that much harder. and the process to superheat the liquid, won't it turn the already liquid to gas again since you don't remove the heat from it but introduce more heat to the liquid?

the whole concept seem to defy my limited knowledge in AC cooling. anyone care to clarify?

It didn't defy the physics. But understand wrongly.

It not superheat the liquid. But the gas. The refrigeration gas have a very low boiling point. Not water which is 100c boiling point. The solar collector act as helping the compressor by superheat the gas. In the aircon, compressor work as compress and heat up the gas. But since the refrigeration gas have a low boiling point, it not enough to change it into complete gas. That's how it save energy by reducing the work of the compressor.

I am really wondering what is this SEERS Company, are they genuine businessman??? I found this company is totally unethical in doing sales!! Their DC have AC to DC converter. And this is not safe. Not to say not safe, but to me is even more dangerous due to have a converter rather than others like Joven just direct AC heater. Who can confirm 100% won't have manufacturing defect?

And after survey and with my engineering knowledge, I believe DC Single tank and Double tank won't save any single cents of energy. If they said the ceramic can absorb heat (by the salesman) Their so call ultra thick insulation already insulated in and out. I really Bodoh try to research to find out may be really got a new tech green products! And kwH used for same amount water is the same at all, only thing is take longer time. Their element no energy saving. (Or perhaps/hopefully have a little bit)

But I can see their Heat Pump is true, even with Singapore Greenbuilding certified. But ONLY THE SEERS HYBRID, not The DC heater DOUBLE TANK AND SINGLE TANK!! BUT THE BROCHURE IS ONLY REFER TO DOBLE TANK AND SINGLE TANK!!! They even put their MALAYSIA record, Singpore Green building, TUV cerified (For heat pump quite a number company certified) But the tank may be by them but the heat pump compressor is not manufacturing by them!! This one I don't check but I think 99.9 percent!! But I will never buy their Hybrid Syetem and pls tell your friend don't , even have such a great saving. This company is too unethical. And I believe may be misleading as well for the energy save.

You guys in doing water heater right? Why no action to avoid people getting cheated? Wake up man!
Consumer suffer man. Recently another friend also almost want to buy.

This may be the last mail to me to complain on this, but I don't mind you share my comment to avoid more people getting cheated.

Pls feel free to correct me if I am wrong.

I have some sharing experience an over instant heater vs central system.

Instant can be more quick n fast for heat up, when you going to be fast bath, but also used more electric power and noisy motor with AC pump, or either used DC pump more quietly.

When used Central system heater one, you may switch on power 30mins before heat up, but also used 2 ways piping for more costly, the advantage can be used for whole unit, even your sink or basic still got hot water.
Electric wise may slightly cut down.

The answer : want fast then go for instant type.
No rush for morning, then used central system also more safety.



This post has been edited by kimsim: Nov 3 2014, 07:39 AM

Storage tank no need to wait for it to heat up also cause it will still retain the heat from previous use.
Before you shower just turn it on, when finish then off it. I never wait for it to heat up

Ha ha still heaven't move in yet, just do a testing for while.

Yours is just an assumption.

Instant water heater won't give you real hot water bath when you need it the most (rainy day), not unless you reduce the flow rate and switch to max.

Central water heater don't need to wait 30mins if use every day even alternate days, because after the first use the tank already have balance hot water, and it have some insulation to keep the water for sometime. I have two storage in my house, one I use frequently, another only weekend, or sometime when we are in hurry not wanting to wait for the mater bathroom. Also if the tank have no more hot water, don't need to wait 30mins before can use, depend on storage size just switch it on for 10 - 15mins and you can take bath.

This post has been edited by weikee: Nov 3 2014, 08:32 AM

As usual lah, not a user yet and want to give advice.