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post Sep 9 2013, 09:07 PM

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QUOTE(hontoni1983 @ Sep 9 2013, 05:51 PM)
Purchased Alpha Smart 18i from Perfect Lifestyle fair a week ago, and they have came for installation yesterday,this is the first time in my life that i am installing water heater (all the while,my parents refuse to install heater because worry of electricity leakage),and holy shit,they use a PVC pipe to connect the output of my original rain water shower output to the heater input, and now, I can see the whole PVC pipe naked on the tiles which is about 2 meter long.....

Oh my god,i really can't accept that after spent so much of money to renovate the house,and the ugly part appear in the toilet!!! Really learnt my lesson, anybody here got idea how to overcome this?? except drill hole and put the pipe inside, and redo the tiles??
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is your bathroom equipped for storage water heater? hmm.gif

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post Sep 9 2013, 09:10 PM

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QUOTE(sovietmah @ Sep 4 2013, 02:55 PM)
Why exactly same issue like mine.
I bought 2 x joven i70P.
one working OK, one no water come out (sometimes a little bit but the pump not really working).
Regret, regret...
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thanks for sharing this info.Initially i plan to use Joven or another brand as i heard they got support. But after heard your story and bad support, sorry,make out my mind to drop Joven as part of my list.

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QUOTE(petlu28 @ Sep 9 2013, 04:37 PM)
This news make me headache again.  rclxub.gif  rclxub.gif
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hahah....u can choose dont use water heater. bath using cold water. tongue.gif
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QUOTE(ozak @ Sep 9 2013, 03:59 PM)
Don't play play.  sweat.gif
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Mont kiara. Should be using expensive heater!!!. Then don't mentioned brand- to cover up story hmm.gif
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QUOTE(ericlaiys @ Sep 9 2013, 09:17 PM)
Mont kiara. Should be using expensive heater!!!. Then don't mentioned brand- to cover up story  hmm.gif
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Read many time this kind of case. Last time got read a Sweden couple died in Thailand resort. Electrocuted by instant heater too. Also local here son help farther and both died. Some more got picture. Scary.

News normally cannot mention brand. But I know got 2 brand got such case before.
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post Sep 9 2013, 11:23 PM

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Those famous brand also have this kind problem before but still a lot ppl use it. Have another brand didn't use heat element but price expensive.

QUOTE(ozak @ Sep 9 2013, 10:58 PM)
Read many time this kind of case. Last time got read a Sweden couple died in Thailand resort. Electrocuted by instant heater too. Also local here son help farther and both died. Some more got picture. Scary.

News normally cannot mention brand. But I know got 2 brand got such case before.
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post Sep 10 2013, 07:12 AM

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Got so much worry use gas lo. Even solar you risk lightning.
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post Sep 10 2013, 07:36 AM

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Gas also will boom. Take cool water better.

QUOTE(weikee @ Sep 10 2013, 07:12 AM)
Got so much worry use gas lo. Even solar you risk lightning.
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post Sep 10 2013, 07:47 AM

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Storage heaters and mini heat pump the safest. biggrin.gif
Gas can leak, cause fire and explosion laugh.gif

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QUOTE(petlu28 @ Sep 9 2013, 11:23 PM)
Those famous brand also have this kind problem before but still a lot ppl use it. Have another brand didn't use heat element but price expensive.
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I avoid those I know.

Just like the rest of ppl. Those never heard will brought it. Those knew it will avoid it.

Malaysia is product safe heaven. You don't get sue if your product kill. In US, you kena sue till no underwear. biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(idoblu @ Sep 10 2013, 07:47 AM)
Storage heaters and mini heat pump the safest.  biggrin.gif
Gas can leak, cause fire and explosion  laugh.gif
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During gas heater era, not much news I heard about gas explosion. Normally the leaking is very small. Rather a fire than explosion.

Gas heater have a safety valve. Which will shutdown when high pressure release. Even if a gas hose broken, the most is fire shut out. Because the gas valve limit the pressure. I saw this kind of situation before during makan steambot. Scary. sweat.gif

The most famous news using gas heater is suicide. Specially in HK. Even HK actress use gas heater for suicide.
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post Sep 10 2013, 08:53 AM

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QUOTE(idoblu @ Sep 10 2013, 07:47 AM)
Storage heaters and mini heat pump the safest.  biggrin.gif
Gas can leak, cause fire and explosion  laugh.gif
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Eat also can choke. No need to eat.

In life we do all the precautions we can, if really want to go is time to go. What we can do is make sure the thing we install are safe and product we get are good brand.

Heard from radio today the water heater that cause of death of the couple is instant water heater.
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QUOTE(ozak @ Sep 10 2013, 08:40 AM)
During gas heater era, not much news I heard about gas explosion. Normally the leaking is very small. Rather a fire than explosion.

Gas heater have a safety valve. Which will shutdown when high pressure release. Even if a gas hose broken, the most is fire shut out. Because the gas valve limit the pressure. I saw this kind of situation before during makan steambot. Scary.  sweat.gif

The most famous news using gas heater is suicide. Specially in HK. Even HK actress use gas heater for suicide.
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i am just half kidding around, hence my laugh.gif at the end.
just like electric heaters, there is suppose to have a level of safety thru the ELCB....but as you can see, anything can happen

those gas water heaters with the big tank.....I dont think its available here any more. Only those small ones like what Rinnai is selling
those with the big tank has a pilot light continuously burning just like stove and oven from yester-years biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(weikee @ Sep 10 2013, 08:53 AM)
Eat also can choke. No need to eat.

In life we do all the precautions we can, if really want to go is time to go. What we can do is make sure the thing we install are safe and product we get are good brand.

Heard from radio today the water heater that cause of death of the couple is instant water heater.
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I have no doubts its one of those instant kind.




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post Sep 10 2013, 09:13 AM

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Thanks your info. my colleague just say both couple 35 years old ++ only. Left 6 month baby at home. sigh!!!


QUOTE(weikee @ Sep 10 2013, 08:53 AM)
Eat also can choke. No need to eat.

In life we do all the precautions we can, if really want to go is time to go. What we can do is make sure the thing we install are safe and product we get are good brand.

Heard from radio today the water heater that cause of death of the couple is instant water heater.
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QUOTE(idoblu @ Sep 10 2013, 09:03 AM)
I have no doubts its one of those instant kind.
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The sad news is, they left behind a 6 months old baby. Pray for the baby finding a good home.
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post Sep 10 2013, 09:36 AM

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Really don't no what went wrong. The instalation guy problem? Why the safety device can't protect?
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post Sep 10 2013, 09:39 AM

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I am using water heater brand is Eaga.
Seems like china brand? and very hot the water even under the condo's water tank pressure, no local product can compete so far from my experience. drool.gif
I might be the next one to die u see..

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I have experienced with 2 water heaters, here are my point of views.

Pensonic - Kinda ok, the trip function seems to work well. Reset and it's fine to go again.

Euro Uno - Cheap in price, good in reliability. No problems so far, been using it for about 7 years now & tripped only once due to power shortage as my wife turned on the vacuum while I was showering.

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