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post May 28 2006, 10:55 PM

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some people think 4gb will make all the difference,
but in fact 2gb is more than enough
vista isnt really a good OS if u ask me since the minimum req is absurd for a home machine.

you think adding more ram to a rotten OS will make a difference? think again
if u want to implement vista, a smart man will always wait till sp1 and have the laugh of thier life at all the morons who install vista first.


and if your vista is pirated, you goina have alot of headahce. even for xp, some of the headaches is starting to appear.

so think again what u wanna do today..more like where do u wanna go today laugh.gif
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post May 29 2006, 05:21 PM

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QUOTE(cockerish @ May 28 2006, 10:55 PM)
some people think 4gb will make all the difference,
but in fact 2gb is more than enough
vista isnt really a good OS if u ask me since the minimum req is absurd for a home machine.

you think adding more ram to a rotten OS will make a difference? think again
if u want to implement vista, a smart man will always wait till sp1 and have the laugh of thier life at all the morons who install vista first.
and if your vista is pirated, you goina have alot of headahce. even for xp, some of the headaches is starting to appear.

so think again what u wanna do today..more like where do u wanna go today laugh.gif
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Hehe,disagree with your opinion here.Sure the OS will be improved form version to version.Like Win XP is superior than Win98 and Win Me.But in fact that the memory need to be used up is increased in amount of almost double.Vista is definateky for the high end pc's,not point if you run the OS on a P3 machine right?If you are using Win XP with 128Mb,i think you can judge that the 256MB is always better than that once you tried it.
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post Jun 1 2006, 02:45 PM

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Do we need Vista?

Answer is YES. BUT only when software companies start optimising their proggies for Vista rather than XP.

It's simple business... M'soft and its product partners will eventually force us to switch, otherwise their revenue stream from home users will dry up. Think about it, if M'soft didn't come out with ME, NT, etc. we'd all be using Windows 98 SP28 Rev. 2020 or something. tongue.gif
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post Jun 1 2006, 02:50 PM

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Gamers (who usually is the highest user of RAM) are already starting the long wait for Vista. For an averange user, XP is still good enuff.

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post Jun 1 2006, 02:56 PM

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still remember bill gates once famously said, we dont need more than few hundreds KB of RAM. laugh.gif
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post Jun 1 2006, 03:13 PM

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QUOTE(Dead__Man @ May 28 2006, 05:51 PM)
Some might label me a conspiracy theorist, but I have a dman strong feeling that software companies are purposely setting the requirements damn high, just so the hardware manufacturers can make profit. Hell, they probably don't even optimize their software for minimal hardware requirements.
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Obviously, that's how the IT industry work. Hw and sw companies works hand in hand to screw consumers by creating new hw/sw with higher requirements while making older stuff obsolete with no support thus forcing you to buy new hw/sw.

btw, Windoze98 will RIP this coming July 11 for good.

And i'm not suprised all those software are purposely bloated by eating up more memory than needed and refusing to deallocate them to create the illussion of hw requirement. Hey, they might even add in another 1 million loops that do nothing for every new version of sw released other than slowing down your computer just to force you to upgrade to faster CPU!!!

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post Jun 1 2006, 07:52 PM

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QUOTE(Dead__Man @ May 28 2006, 05:51 PM)
Some might label me a conspiracy theorist, but I have a dman strong feeling that software companies are purposely setting the requirements damn high, just so the hardware manufacturers can make profit. Hell, they probably don't even optimize their software for minimal hardware requirements.
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that wat i think also, just like games now are getting more and more demanding.
Comparing WOW to oblivion, the graphic looks almost the same for me, minus the HDR or shader thing, but their system requirement is two different things.
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QUOTE(Matrix @ Jun 1 2006, 03:13 PM)
Obviously, that's how the IT industry work. Hw and sw companies works hand in hand to screw consumers by creating new hw/sw with higher requirements while making older stuff obsolete with no support thus forcing you to buy new hw/sw.

btw, Windoze98 will RIP this coming July 11 for good.

And i'm not suprised all those software are purposely bloated by eating up more  memory than needed and refusing to deallocate them to create the illussion of hw requirement. Hey, they might even add in another 1 million loops that do nothing for every new version of sw released other than slowing down your computer just to force you to upgrade to faster CPU!!!

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what is windoze98 and what does it do?
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QUOTE(raymond5105 @ May 29 2006, 05:21 PM)
Hehe,disagree with your opinion here.Sure the OS will be improved form version to version.Like Win XP is superior than Win98 and Win Me.But in fact that the memory need to be used up is increased in amount of almost double.Vista is definateky for the high end pc's,not point if you run the OS on a P3 machine right?If you are using Win XP with 128Mb,i think you can judge that the 256MB is always better than that once you tried it.
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yes true enough what you have just said.
but see, you are thinking of the whole thing as personally and not globally.

you see, most organization, at most they get machines with 512mb. and thats that. no more upgrades.

and there is no such thing as os requierment doubles.
windows xp works fine with 128mb ram minus all the funky gui. i configured one machine to run preety smooth.

yes 256 might be better but then again its like an organization point of view..why bother and save cost. If u wanna say home user, not all of us are as privellaged as you to have gigabytes of ram. and i dont see much application running on vista properly atleast for the 3-4 months when it gets launched.

only hype im living up for vista is Halo 2. thats the only thing.


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post Jun 2 2006, 10:00 AM

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Aiyar... it all depends on individual needs lor... as an example, 2GB for me is the minimum as i do a lot of self learning at home during free time, I'd launch an oracle db, couple of app servers, an IDE, some utility programs and heck sometimes even a second OS via vmware. My home pc with 2GB barely cuts it... i'd love to add more memory if i had the cash... Of course when i just play games, then the 2GB is overkill.
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post Jun 2 2006, 06:31 PM

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i expect when vista come out, and ram prices begin to drop, 2GB will be a norm, while higher end user will go for 4GB,
same like 1 1/2yr ago when having 2GB and 3 yrs ago having 1GB is an absurb idea.
but i think we wont reach the day when 1 piece of ram will be 10GB and we need 20GB to run a pc , some new tech is going to come out and change that i hope.

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post Jun 2 2006, 08:49 PM

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isnt the requirement for vista stands at 1gig?
In that sense, I dont see that OS sucking up anywhere close to 1 gig
at least application will still have one gig. Current one of course. No doubt that ram requirement will grow, but I dont see the need for any more than 3gig anytime soon. I know, 3 seems awkward lol, but seriously, why waste another 1 gig in a 4gig config lol
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post Jun 13 2006, 10:55 AM

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http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=30503
seems like we need more than 2 gig ram next year.
Crysis directx10 game will require 1.5Gb ram
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post Jun 13 2006, 11:16 AM

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wait next year..
RM200 for 1gb.. x4 not more than 1k...
with AM2 coming and DDR800... average user can get DDR533 or 667 cheaper... by that day vista will stable enough for daily usage...
2gb or 4gb price will be reasonable..
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post Jun 13 2006, 12:10 PM

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WOo......and to imagine my surfing PC is only a 1.4GHz Thunderbird with only 256MB of RAMS....
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post Jun 13 2006, 06:23 PM

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The windows Vista Min. requirement:
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsvista/getready/capable.mspx

Dont forget to check the Graphic card min. requirement too!

2GB is more than enough to Windows XP, i think 2GB or 4GB Ram , u really can see the different when operate your windows, windows also wont consume all the ram you install...if really want a good performance PC, why dont looking for Pentium D or P4-EE? I think you will feel the different experience!!!
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post Jun 15 2006, 12:50 AM

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I wanna ask,just say if i only have 1gb of ram but high performance RAM let's say ddr800 will it be sufficient enough to run windows vista smoothly?
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post Jun 15 2006, 01:41 AM

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anyway 4GB for wat ? too much i think ...even if i run all my application wit games we just nit 1GB like that hahaha
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QUOTE(Nemesis181188 @ Jun 15 2006, 12:50 AM)
I wanna ask,just say if i only have 1gb of ram but high performance RAM let's say ddr800 will it be sufficient enough to run windows vista smoothly?
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post Jun 15 2006, 09:28 AM

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to run vista smoothly, i would say 2GB, if want extra juice, i would say 3GB.


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