If talking about bottlenecking, its the CPU and DRAM transfer bandwidth not the size itself
For us Northwood old versions with 533Mhz FSB/400Mhz is really bottlenecking the whole thing
2 GB the way of the future?
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Apr 22 2006, 11:31 AM
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Are you saying that S478 couldn't use 2GB or are you asking for clarifications? Whether able to address 2GB or not depends on the OS unless you have some white papers from Intel that says otherwise.
QUOTE(Mowgli @ Apr 6 2006, 08:54 PM) in a way i think it would be pointless, i am not sure why, but i think it could be due to the architecture of the P4 S478...cant fully take advantage of 2GB? compared to AMD n the new P4... some one care to clarify this? even i myself i think for my P4 i use 1GB currently is sufficient. But d next move to Conroe or AMD i think definitely need 2GB already.  |
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Apr 22 2006, 11:32 AM
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Right, that's why during the Northwood era, most of the time the higher the FSB, the better the yields are in benchmarks and gaming. Most were overclocking to 1000FSB at that time.
QUOTE(shinjite @ Apr 6 2006, 11:44 PM) If talking about bottlenecking, its the CPU and DRAM transfer bandwidth not the size itself For us Northwood old versions with 533Mhz FSB/400Mhz is really bottlenecking the whole thing |
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Apr 22 2006, 02:54 PM
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I just upgraded to 2GB from a 1GB setup, not really much of an improvement for me though.
Well ... maybe a little bit of improvement  Right now I don't care how many applications I left running in the background when I'm gaming. No lag or what so ever, and when I exit my game I don't need to wait for my desktop icons to appear one by one  When I moved from 512MB to 1Gb a month ago, the difference was huge compared my latest upgrade  |
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Apr 22 2006, 06:57 PM
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when vista comes out standard home desktops will ship wit 2gb of rams...vista is memory hungry
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Apr 22 2006, 10:23 PM
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You might not be even using more than 1GB of memory previously; that's why you would not see the difference.
QUOTE(Dreamworks @ Apr 22 2006, 02:54 PM) I just upgraded to 2GB from a 1GB setup, not really much of an improvement for me though. Well ... maybe a little bit of improvement Right now I don't care how many applications I left running in the background when I'm gaming. No lag or what so ever, and when I exit my game I don't need to wait for my desktop icons to appear one by one When I moved from 512MB to 1Gb a month ago, the difference was huge compared my latest upgrade |
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Apr 23 2006, 12:06 AM
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QUOTE(mzaidi @ Apr 3 2006, 03:58 AM) Not neccasarily true. Toms Hardware did a benchmark between loose and tight timings memory: nice finding. jz curious are all the ram running at the same speed?  Yes, there are slight improvement when using tight timings. If I have to choose between large RAM size with loose timing vs small RAM size with tight timing, I'll choose larger RAM size. kinda proof what i believe all along right. better to hit higher ram speed than trying to get tighter timing. |
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Apr 23 2006, 02:36 AM
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QUOTE(shadow_dweller @ Apr 23 2006, 12:06 AM) nice finding. jz curious are all the ram running at the same speed? Yes, the ram is running at the same speed. Only different in timing.kinda proof what i believe all along right. better to hit higher ram speed than trying to get tighter timing. QUOTE The tests were performed with a 290 MHz HTT base speed and a 2/3 memory speed divider, resulting in 193 MHz memory clock - this equals DDR386. |
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May 1 2006, 12:05 AM
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Hey guys.I wanna ask.You know high performance RAM for gaming like the TWINX stuff,does it come in like 1gb one batang or only 512 for one batang the ddr400 type?
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QUOTE(Nemesis181188 @ May 1 2006, 12:05 AM) Hey guys.I wanna ask.You know high performance RAM for gaming like the TWINX stuff,does it come in like 1gb one batang or only 512 for one batang the ddr400 type? Both are available. |
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May 1 2006, 12:22 AM
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Oh ,how much is the price for 1gb one batang of these high performance RAM for Kingston or Corsair?
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May 1 2006, 01:54 AM
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Go to www.lowyat.net ... then on the left you have a host of pricelists for shops that sell them. Download them and check it out yourself.
 QUOTE(Nemesis181188 @ May 1 2006, 12:22 AM) Oh ,how much is the price for 1gb one batang of these high performance RAM for Kingston or Corsair? |
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May 1 2006, 01:59 PM
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QUOTE(cajun2de @ Apr 22 2006, 06:57 PM) when vista comes out standard home desktops will ship wit 2gb of rams...vista is memory hungry definitely at least 2 GB for VistaFriend last time tested the Beta version for fun, load into Windows also 600MB used  |
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May 1 2006, 02:04 PM
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Is there a possibility of 2 different brands of RAM work together?Let's say 512mb of kingston and the other is corsair?Same type diff brand.Will they run at dual channel?
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QUOTE(Nemesis181188 @ May 1 2006, 02:04 PM) Is there a possibility of 2 different brands of RAM work together?Let's say 512mb of kingston and the other is corsair?Same type diff brand.Will they run at dual channel? Provided they're both of the same type (double sided, etc) they should work.Previously running 1GB @ 512 KVR + 512 Corsair VS, dual channel on my Abit AI7 Now it's 2GB @ KVR + CVS & KVR + KVR |
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May 23 2006, 05:34 PM
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huh? 2 gigs of RAM? Just to have faster loading time for games?
For me, I'll think twice because I've to think my wallet loading time.. hehe |
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May 27 2006, 01:11 AM
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QUOTE One question that this article was meant to answer was, "Is 4GB for me?" Obviously only you know if you need 4GB. The majority out there don't at this point in time.. plain and simple. However as mentioned in the outline, with Vista around the corner, [or two or three with how things are going], people who care about performance will be required to have 4GB of memory. more information here : http://techgage.com/review.php?id=5011 |
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May 27 2006, 01:17 AM
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1GB of standard DDR/DDR2 RAM costs abt RM350 per piece..
for 4GB, it will cost abt RM1.4k.. reasonable.. judging by when i bought corsair3200XL 512x 2 at 1.5k the first time it comes out.. |
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May 27 2006, 01:57 AM
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But the link show 4Gb dun have much performance improvement over the 2Gb, what is the point then?? encourage us to spend money for nothing?? (maybe can show off. . . I GOT 4GB RAM!!)
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May 27 2006, 07:50 AM
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VISTA is just a bloatware OS which needs more RAM. 4GB = rm 1.5k...Insane...Just on RAM ?
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