thx 4 ur opinion

The integration experience can never be replace with app, it's just so different.

Not everyone need tethering, but anyway, heard it will be available soon.
Video Calling, Face Time is not really the normal video calling, but Skype will be available soon too, but there's no front camera; Anyway, it may or may not be a vital feature as well, depend on individual.

deep within OS integration can never be replace by an app. If thats true they should have did it a long time ago. 4S camera better? still waiting someone to show its better than the nokia N8 so i can switch. I notice most ppl do is use app to edit only.

Even iOS atm u need install facebook, twitter, foursquare, linked in all separately.





I will do a review SGS II vs Lumia 800 when i get my lumia unit.



This post has been edited by aspire2oo6: Feb 16 2012, 08:36 AM

I think iPhone camera is good/better in terms of "usage", it's fast and smooth, easy to take photo; For normal user, they prefer this, fast, smooth, easy; Plus the 4S have HDR mode.

The Lumia camera app can configure metering mode, which is a plus for those who know how to utilize it. And not everyone goes into the detail of every picture they took, most of the time, they just view the photo in their iPhone screen size and happy already, then post to facebook or use instagram, poor/bad quality photos also can become unique.

This post has been edited by Andy214: Feb 16 2012, 08:49 AM

Nice share

I switch to lumia because of it deep social integration and, it is simple and neat

I just wanted to know it is normal that the battery will last you for a day + couple hours (i.e. 4 hours) with nominal usage of calls, texting and light browsing?

Nokia said tethering would be available soon for the Lumia 800... 2.5 months ago. That's why I'm quite disappointed with Nokia, their idea of soon is too slow.

Lumia 800's lack of a front camera is also another dealbreaker for me.

I was only comparing the Lumia 800 and the iPhone 4S. The Nokia N8 is a totally different model that runs Symbian and has a 12MP camera.

Yes, iOS you need to install Facebook/Twitter separately, but every other 3rd party iOS application can launch and access those applications using iPhone URL Schemes.. The integrated hub in the Lumia 800 may be nice, but ultimately is there anything you can't do with an app (post status/image/URL) ?

Tethering should be depend on Apps? I think not Nokia related unless it's Nokia specific.

Yup, it depends on how important is each feature/function to a person; For those who prioritize video calls, will become a deal breaker. Just like people who prioritize WhatsApp, without it available in N9 (MeeGo), it's a deal breaker for many people. It doesn't matter how great or nice the phone is, but if it lacks something important to a person, it'll become a deal breaker.

For the Lumia, they should at least provide the front camera, if future the support/feature available, even for apps like Skype, it'll be usable.
And Window Phone 8 is suppose to have external storage support, but current device doesn't have the hardware, it'll be unable to utilize the feature.

Relying on apps is different, you need to run services separately, you need to install the apps, you need to run/open the apps; The chat/instant messaging is all separated.

With social networks integrated, you have everything built-in, into 1 place, 1 account, your main contact book. All your chat/instant messaging is also merged into 1 place, the messaging/conversation; You can easily track/trace and resume your messaging from there and regarding of what services they're on. If they can integrate WhatsApp into it, it'll be even better.
With apps, you need to open separate app to chat/message, and you may need to sign in individually for each app. With integration, no such thing, once you're CONNECTED, you're also automatically sign-in and connected.
With social networks integrated, you can STILL have apps, so you have BOTH options; but without it, you can only rely on apps. The integration experience is very different and nice, once people are used to it, its very hard to change to another phone without it; Just like moving to a phone without WhatsApp support, something like that. Of course, there're some people who doesn't care, it really depends on individual and how much they appreciate the social networks integration.
It's just... very different.

It's Nokia specific. Their Lumia 900 already has tethering, and Mango supports tethering, it's just that they for some reason haven't added it to the Lumia 800.

That's an App right? I suppose it can be found in marketplace or they control it by device? But if not available out of the box, means need to purchase, but it's possible they make it free for Lumia 800 if Nokia promise to make it available for Lumia 800.

If it's built-in OS feature, then all Windows Phone Mango should have it by default regardless or brand.

give it sometime iOS have upgraded how many times to achieve OS 5.0.1 when WP7 only 7.5 update.

example iphone 2g,3g,3gs, 4G and now 4S let says each version a year thats like 5 years havent include ipod touch before iphone. When WP just new.i still remember back then when all phones support 3G iphone supports until edge.

Give it sometime but look how impressive is WP even it just started look at the voice command accuracy

I think if you see it in a purely OS perspective, I would say that WP7.5 is leagues better than iOS. WP7.5 has all the functions of iOS and maybe even more. Siri is a gimmick, don't get me started on that. People use that more as a game than for anything really productive.

Social integration is an even more useful feature that WP7.5 did tremendously well.

WP7.5's design has won many praise and awards but I ackowledge that different people have different tastes in design.

When it comes to ecosystem, iOS wins hands down simply because iTune is still better than Zune, and iOS has better and more apps compared to WP7.5. Will this catch up soon enough? We'll see later.

In terms of phone, I cannot deny that iPhone4S is better than Nokia Lumia 800. 4S has a faster processor, front facing camer, better back camera, higher resolution screen, and overall the build quality rivals Lumia 800. (They're both equally good IMO, but iPhone is so common that you don't have the feel of being unique anymore.)

But the hardware advantages of the 4S comes with a price, at RM2.3k, it's about RM600 more expensive than Nokia Lumia 800. You can buy another Galaxy Ace/2nd hand 1st generation WP7 phone with that amount of money already.

IMO the question shouldn't be 'which is the better phone' but 'which phone suits me best?'

Is front facing camera really used at all? I know I don't use them, at all.

Are apps important? I find that WP7.5 provides me with every apps I need EXCEPT for some local apps such as Maybank2U and cinema showtimes etc. But they can be substituted with web alternative, although they are not as nice to use.

Are YOU attracted to the Metro Design?

How important is viewing all social feeds and get timely updates to YOU?

How important is integrated Messenger/Facebook Chat/SMS to YOU?

How much do YOU use Windows Live Services from Skydrive to OneNote? I personally use Windows Live services to the almost maximum. I feel it's much better than anything Google could offer.

So start asking what do YOU want, instead of which is the one phone that is better and rules them all.

Very well said and clear point!

Talk about iPhone price, let me just add: You can get something similar, also Apple brand, just without "GSM functionality", but at almost 1/3 of the price... Zheng Zheng Zheng... iPod Touch... Basically, iPhone is just an iPod Touch with added GSM functionality, and of course, slightly thicker.

So for me, I don't like iPhone for the price, the limitations/restrictions. I don't need it as a phone, I need a real smartphone. BUT, I want the apps/games. So, I got myself an iPod Touch, and I still can get a decent smartphone; I can get 2 device at the price of an iPhone, and I get to enjoy iOS with all it's apps/games and another proper smartphone for serious/real use.

Has anyone done a comparison of Lumia 800 with N9? I just need to know 3 things :
- comparison of battery life
- comparison of push emails (any delays or almost instant, especially Gmail?)
- comparison of integration (which one is better e.g. contacts, Fb, Twitter etc).

This post has been edited by ViRaViRa: Feb 16 2012, 12:23 PM

It's built-in, but disabled by Nokia. There's no app I know of currently that can let you tether on the Lumia 800.

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Added on February 16, 2012, 12:33 pmYeah I'm giving Lumia and Windows Phone time to grow and become better.
I may purchase a Lumia in the future when they Microsoft/Nokia get their act together.
Just not now since the current OS and Lumia 800 doesn't fit my use case scenario.

This post has been edited by Andrew Lim: Feb 16 2012, 12:33 PM

All 3 should be Lumia 900 better.

For integration, it's like 50-50 I think; there're somethings MeeGo better/has, but somethings MeeGo lack of. MeeGo FB share, you can post to "Albums", you can choose "quality", you can choose to keep/remove metadata. MeeGo has much more integration currently, to flickr, skype, etc.
As MeeGo may not have much enhancement on this part, or if it has, it will be very slow... Soon WP will catch up. I hope they will listen to the customers and add more features into the integration.


Weird; Do you know why Nokia disable it? If I know there is such thing, I would've ask this question during the previous preview session with Nokia.
They say coming soon, I thought it's app based, like those tethering apps found on other Nokia devices.

I think you can wait for Windows Phone 8, it will have external storage, and possibly front camera with Skype integrated.

The current Windows Phone is still very "fresh", but it's very smooth and stable.

I m using Diagnosis app in my WP7 to do USB tethering..

Can you please show me how to do that ? I google and all links only points to Samsung WP7 phone is able to do that.

Thanks.

Hi everybody, new Magenta Lumia 800 user here!!!

I saw the phone yesterday and fell in love with the touch and feel of the phone, so quickly bought it.

Errm..actually I m using Samsung WP7.

However, u can try it in Lumia 800. It might work.