If comes with FREE XBOX360...

This post has been edited by Andy214: Feb 1 2012, 11:42 AM

From the demo, it seems better? As I know, the SiRi seems to be having problems understanding non-american accent thing? But the demo seems it can pickup easily and accurately, but that was shot demo with short speech-lah; Have to do extensive test to find out.

Even google's voice recognition don't do so well.

When the phone is lock/sleep mode, press and hold the shutter button for few seconds, the phone will activate camera app, focus and capture. The entire process is estimated to take around 7 seconds.

Don't really matter if IP4S can do faster by incorporating camera short-cut in the lock screen, in terms of smoothness and stable, WP7 is already on par, if not better. With WP7, there's also voice recognition and command, which is not built into or available to previous IP.

Now the best yet, WP7 have people hub, which is social networks integration feature found similar in Maemo/MeeGo. It's something revolutionary, actually Nokia started it first in their Maemo OS, but because it's a Nokia, it's didn't become famous. If this invention is introduced by the famous fruit, it'll be a total different story, where they can even make something old, new and famous/special.

Android tried these kind of integration but it just didn't work as it should be, it was not truly integrated in Android and it's actually making things pretty messy and bad. I guess this is due to no standardization and not officially introduced into the core OS itself.

For Nokia's WP smartphone, currently, there will be 2 EXCLUSIVE app integrated into all Nokia WP smartphone, which is:
1. Nokia Drive
2. Contacts Transfer - Nokia claims this allows you to connect to ANY device via bluetooth to sync and transfer all the contacts.

As for social integration, that you need to worry LEAST. Android social integration is a failure, messy and complicated. The first one who done this and properly is actually Nokia, in the Maemo OS. The integration was the best, everything in 1 place.... Now, WP7 has done similar integration as well, where they call it People Hub. I haven't truly tested this one yet, but should be similar concept, unlike Android.
I believe Android problem is there's no standardization, and it's not actually introduced and done in the core OS itself. They allow others to add it, thus it become too many variants, messy and complicated; Even the contacts feature itself, you have different variants, functions/features between different providers (Sony, HTC, Samsung). This is not a good thing, example: HTC Contacts have many functions/features, but Sony has like very very basic one (cannot even customize the contact display)... this is just such a simple thing... It should've been implemented properly to the core OS itself as a standard.

Lumnia is basically a BETTER iPhone, stable, smooth and reliable like iOS, but offer more feature than iOS, with social networks integration found in Maemo/MeeGo (People Hub), homescreen, more customization; Basically, it's a better iPhone with almost the same restrictions and limitation, it's just lacking in Apps/Games.

SII running Android, it's very different from iPhone/Lumnia. It's better to compare against Symbian. It provides flexibility, customization and many other things.

So, it depends what you want. Simplicity, smoothness, reliability, easy to use? Or Flexibility, Customization?
With Android, you need to first learn how to use it (but you only learn once, even if you find it hard at first); You also need to bear with the issues and problems and understand what's going on, e.g. as you customize and add more things, it may cause your device to slow down or lag, you need to understand what's wrong, etc. Basically, you need to be a more educated or better user.

If you need something that's less issue, easy, simple and smooth, and don't bother about the OS capability/restriction; the Windows Phone is a very good choice. In any way, it's better than the iPhone, except the Apps/Games department for now... and possibly, the "brand" name if you're brand conscious type of person.

This post has been edited by Andy214: Feb 9 2012, 11:14 AM

Anybody there Q-ing already? Hehehe~

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Added on February 10, 2012, 10:07 amSHIFU, what time you going there?
Seems Calvin will be there quite late.

This post has been edited by Andy214: Feb 10 2012, 10:08 AM

Ooo, yea, have to go early also, later jam and no parking, somemore is Friday, haha.

I heard got people start queue from 6am...

Sure worth it lo, compare to those queue for long long hours for another device with no extra gift or anything.

Bored? The iPhone more bored, nothing at all. Basically, it's just about apps. Windows Phone got People Hub (integrated social networks), so if you're a social network person who uses a lot of those social networks, this phone will be very good.

As I said before, this is basically same like iPhone, but BETTER because it has People Hub and some other additional feature/function.
What iPhone have in advantage right now is basically apps and games; but then, depends what apps/games you need, you don't need ALL of it, mostly you might only use a few, so as long those apps/games you want is available, then it's good enough; Besides, more apps and games will come soon.

OMG, just saw the photo posted by Nokia Malaysia. They're queuing outside of Pavillion? So HOT, later more HOT; Better pray don't rain lor...
I thought queue inside.

Not sure what happen, seems the queue no more, left umbrella

AFAIK, the reason should be because XBox wasn't officially available in Malaysia; Microsoft never officially launch XBox in Malaysia; Hence, we don't get XBox as free gift like Singpore.

This phone is very similar like iPhone, with all the limitations and restrictions, have to use ZUNE (like iTunes) to transfer files, etc. It's smooth and stable like iPhone.
BUT... it's better than iPhone in terms of features/functions: there is People Hub (social networks integration), this alone is enough to be an amazing experience... those who have been using the N900 or N9 will know this very well. Android tried to implement this but it was a failure, very messy.
There're also Office built-in, and also good email integration.
The one thing that it's still lacking from iPhone is the Apps and Games department, but soon this will eventually catch up. How many apps/games isn't really important, most important is those really useful, popular, in demand apps and games are made available.
One thing unique for Nokia's Windows Phone is, there is this "Contacts Transfer" app (which allows you to transfer contacts easily form any device via Bluetooth), and Nokia Drive (voice guided navigation).


Compare with Android (e.g. SGSII), it's very different. Android is about customization, flexibility, freedom, power. It really depends what you want, if you want simple, reliable, easy to use, then Android is not for you. Android can be complicated and take some time to pickup and learn, the first time it maybe very hard and complicated for some people (but hey, you only need to learn once; same like a digital camera, first time you purchase, wahhhh so many funcitons, blur blur; as you use and learn, you'll later find that, you have learn everything and WANTS MORE, why no this, why no that). The thing with Android (or those flexible, customizable, freedom OS) is, the user needs to be educated and knows what he/she is doing; It's just like using a computer, if you customize it a lot, run a lots of services and programs, don't blame the computer if it become sluggish, lag..... The user needs to know how to properly use the device, knows the limit of the device (e.g. ram, processor, etc). In short, with Great Powers comes Great Responsibilities.
If you don't need all that and just want a simple and reliable phone, then go for those simple and easy to use phone like iPhone or Windows Phone 7 (e.g. Nokia Lumia)

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Added on February 11, 2012, 4:45 pmJust press the BACK button to close.
To see all your open apps (e.g. multi-tasking view), press and HOLD the BACK button.

This post has been edited by Andy214: Feb 11 2012, 04:46 PM

Both are very different, can't really compare.

Windows Phone is about simplicity, smoothness, easy to use, stable, reliable; but it has many restriction and limitation (but if you're the user that doesn't care/bother about these, it won't bother you, just like iPhone users, most of them are fine with it).

Android is about flexibility, power, customizations, little/no restrictions and limitations, freedom. People who likes to customize, wants freedom, flexibility, will prefer Android. With this, they may have to sacrifice on the response, smoothness, etc. BUT it doesn't mean it will not have, it depends on HOW the device is being use.
Just like a sports car, if you buy a sports car and want to save fuel, you can drive slow like turtle, or you can utilize the power and sacrifice on fuel. A better example would of course be a PC, it depends how you use your PC, if you run many programs, obviously you may face issue like lag, etc.

So, as above, it really depends which type you prefer, it's very much different. Those who like Android for it's customization, flexibility, freedom, will hate Windows Phone limitation, restriction, although they may like the smoothness and other features like People Hub. Too bad, there's still no one OS that has almost everything to date. Nokia could've done it with Maemo, but sadly, they killed it when it's still a baby.

Being two very different category, it's hard to compare, you may be able to show the responsiveness, smoothness, the People Hub; but Android has the flexibility to customize, the freedom to browse their files, send files, play music, play videos, flash support, tons of browser selection, etc. So, both have it's pros and cons and suit different category of users.

Hehe, it's normal, they love their phone, sure they want to win. I believe there's no point to argue with them, but try to share and agree on each of the pros and cons.
e.g. Windows Phone user agree and like the customizable feature and freedom on Androids.
Android user agree and like the simplicity, easy to use, smoothness on Windows Phone, and especially the People Hub.

If only there is one OS that combine all the best together. Flexibility, Freedom, doesn't mean the OS need to be complicated. At the same time, simple doesn't mean it cannot become flexible and put limitation and restriction (there's no need to follow what iOS did).
Camera is a very powerful tool, last time, it's not easy to use and complicated, but look at nowadays, it's so simple and easy to use, just point and shoot. BUT, does it have to "REMOVE" functions/feature and put restrictions? No...
Why iOS needs to do that? And why should others follow iOS footsteps? It's just so wrong to me, personally.

MeeGo not really, MeeGo has ups and downs. Maemo is better, but it was abandon even more early, PR1.2 was the last update. MeeGo at least will have more updates, but still no match for Maemo.

A little different.

MeeGo is Nokia's Maemo + Intel's Moblin, merged.

If you look at the past Maemo version, it's very different from MeeGo.
Maemo have a Desktop which is extremely customizable like a Windows Desktop (place icons, shortcuts, widgets anywhere you want, even overlap one another), MeeGo has no proper homescreen, just 3 view.
Maemo5 is the first smartphone OS which support full flash, and the browser offers the best browsing experience, very much like a real mini laptop, and the shortcut keys works just like a pc, you canuse shift+a, ctrl+c, ctrl+v, etc. you can also activate the mouse cursor... To date, NONE of the smartphone can offer such experience. There're also many poweful apps and widgets which no smartphone can offer, and videos support is also the best with the available of mplayer and tons of codecs. It's only limited by the hardware.
What MeeGo has is simplicity and fluidity, and also the SWIPE. It's suitable for people who don't need all the above but a simple, easy to use and smooth phone. What it lacks it's the apps/games.

As for Windows Phone, it has many restrictions and limitations just like iPhone. So, it cannot really compare with other smartphones, but not everyone need all those features. Many people seems fine with all the limitations and restrictions of iPhone, so there's no issue for this phone for those people as well. Most important is the smoothness, stable and finally apps/games.
As Social Networks plays an important role in todays world, and most people already have facebook account, Windows Phone Social Network Integration, the People Hub, will be a very interesting and nice feature, a very good experience. Once they use it, most likely they will appreciate it, and to switch to another device without these feature, it's hard. Just like someone who has been using WhatsApp, it's hard to them to accept another smartphone which doesn't have WhatsApp support.
But, who knows, Apple may implement this in the future and then they may call it a new revolution, "this changes everything again.". It's all about marketing and also who markets it.

This post has been edited by Andy214: Feb 14 2012, 01:57 PM

No confirmation from Nokia/Microsoft.

Depends, someone has scratch his N9 screen. While some have drop and many times and put with keys and still no scratch.
It's not scratch proof, but scratch resistant. It guess those that got scratch is very unlucky.

Ah yes, the last security update.... which CSSU already address much earlier.

Try your sim on other device?
If can, then try reset your phone and re-try.