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 Nokia N9 - V02 - [Fluidity King For Nokia], Let~~~ SWIPE~~~ all~~~ the~~~ way~~~

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post Jan 4 2012, 08:27 PM

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QUOTE(KennyKB @ Jan 4 2012, 08:18 PM)
To summarize in brief:

1) Cut doesn't mean you will get network problem.

2) Buy micro-SIM doesn't mean no network problem.

So what is the proper way? There is no proper way, so just do what you feel comfortable with.
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agree with the fact that there's no PROPER way to the problem and mainly depending on your luck
for most people, cutting is a faster way (why run to telco and spend time waiting in queue if clipping takes only seconds? and not forgetting it is usually free). so if it fails, fall back to telco and request for a micro-SIM at a price (expecting RM8-20?)

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post Jan 4 2012, 10:19 PM

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QUOTE(eaglehelang @ Jan 4 2012, 07:05 PM)
Like I said, it's the micro sim that gave me problems, the so called proper way. Of course I would not go thru a method(again) that gave me problems & hassle, even if it's the 'proper way'. 

Of course the person will scold, they have to go thru the hassle of changing the thing, which is much more of a hassle than cutting. More so since they know the 'proper way' did not work for me, I go recommend some more, look more funny.

If I had problems the brake disc from ABC manufacturer, I would not recommend ABC manufacturer/authorised seller to people. I recommend Ah Kau workshop cos his service excellent all this many years,although not within warranty.

No need to say like saving the world green forest issue.  Using micro sim from telco gave me problems( I am not the only one), so naturally I hesitate to recommend.
Your tone is like cutting is a big crime although you keep stressing ' by all means go & cut'. 'People never experience before, find hard to comprehend' kan? This is the other end of  experiencing, I'm one of the unlucky types with the proper way.
Cut at own risk. Proper way is to change to micro sim, done.

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Ok, back to our beloved N9  biggrin.gif  biggrin.gif Someone mentioned something about speedtest ? Celcom fast kah nowadays?
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WOW... Funny, cutting is not SAME as changing manufacturer.
Cutting is like doing the non-proper way.
e.g. Instead of replacing the wires, you cut-and-join the wires instead.
Similarly, it doesn't mean cut-and-join wires will give you problem, but it's not recommended and may give problems.

Anyway, do what you want; aspire has clearly mention and understand what I'm trying to say. Thank gooodness.


QUOTE(KennyKB @ Jan 4 2012, 08:18 PM)
To summarize in brief:

1) Cut doesn't mean you will get network problem.

2) Buy micro-SIM doesn't mean no network problem.

So what is the proper way? There is no proper way, so just do what you feel comfortable with.
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In the first place, there is NO cutting; It's not a recommended way either.

Secondly, point (2) doesn't sound valid in this context. Yes, it doesn't mean no network problem, that applies to ANY sim. But cutting, is another issue.
1. Cutting may give network problem
2. Cutting may give OTHER problem as the edges are not smooth and there may have sharp edges; There is risk of damaging certain phone sim card slot.

I didn't say CANNOT cut, I said it's recommended to replace, and it's only cost a small fee, then I explain WHY and provide reasons, and problems from cutting, the risk; But seems people keep promoting cutting is better but without proper reasoning. I've provided many examples and clearly, people have mentioned the rational suggestion is to replace.

At first, why pay RM20 lah... after I said, RM20 only for years of usage, phone price, etc and provide comparison; then switch topic give another reason. Well, if really not willing to pay RM20, just say "I'm not willing to pay RM20' lo, what's so hard? I also not willing to pay for somethings that people think it's worth it anyway, nothing wrong. But then, that's PERSONAL preference, when we're recommending, we should be thinking about OTHERS, so the proper shouldn't it be, you can cut, or you can replace at small fee, cut can be free but you may have risk; something like that......


QUOTE(Upsilon @ Jan 4 2012, 08:27 PM)
agree with the fact that there's no PROPER way to the problem and mainly depending on your luck
for most people, cutting is a faster way (why run to telco and spend time waiting in queue if clipping takes only seconds? and not forgetting it is usually free). so if it fails, fall back to telco and request for a micro-SIM at a price (expecting RM8-20?)
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Read above, CUT was never the proper way. The proper way is to replace. CUT --> POTONG. Maybe to some people they think is proper, but think as GENERAL, obviously, it's NOT proper.

One person not willing to pay and replace, doesn't mean other should follow. I don't ask others to follow me either, I'm just highlighting the point since everyone suggesting cutting, and when I suggest replace, people actually go against it and say just cut it. That's why I started explaining, giving examples, reasons. People are still free to do what they want.
Cutting is faster, yes, isn't I've said it, we can still recommend them to replace when they have the chance. Read: Recommend.
But instead, here is like, do only 1 thing and 1 thing only. What if the cutted SIM Card failed? Of course, as I said, it's very normal, nobody cares or takes responsibility; Blame the shop lor, blame the phone lor, or simply "you're bad luck, haha; now go replace".


Added on January 4, 2012, 10:40 pm

ADDED: I did not say any of you who CUT is wrong and will have problem; so no need to keep explain about your case (never have problem), or how you have other alternatives when the sim card fail. We're on the topic about others in general, when we recommend, we don't know if they have alternatives or more than 1 phone, etc. And either cutting or replacement is not a wrong decision, just which is BETTER (as in less problem, risk, etc).

One funny thing, even I provided this example, seems people didn't see it, or maybe they're too worked up:
1. Cut and NEW phone got problem - blame who? Can complain/report/claim?
2. New Micro-SIM and NEW phone got problem - blame who? Can complain/report/claim?

Obviously, IF you CUT, you're taking the RISK;
So, if let people know about this and let them decide what they want to choose on their BRAND NEW RM1.5K++ phone, how many will choose (1) and how many will choose (2)?

Bah, think again, these are probably too rare to happen. Why do I care anyway?
Just recommend what you guys want to recommend-lah. It's not about WINNING or LOSING, I'm just trying to explain it's BETTER to replace, and share my experience, reasons, and so on. I don't mind LOSING the argument but I just hope people get my point and will take note of it, but it seems people still don't get it and keep telling me how their experience has no problems instead (about them, not thinking WHAT MAY happen to others). Since like this, no point in winning the argument because that's not the purpose; people just give up, let go and doesn't get the meaning and point at all.

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post Jan 4 2012, 10:43 PM

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btw folks, im selling my n9 16gb pink. anyone interested pls pm me la...i think i am better suited to a big screen phone since i watch lots of videos
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the sim cutting also very depending on how sharp the cutter... some lao yah cutter simply too easy to damage the sim during cutting... and yeah cutting do have risk nod.gif
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post Jan 5 2012, 07:48 AM

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this thread is getting more and more ridiculous with the sim cutting issue, bottomline just get a new microsim for the most minimum hassle.

i think you guys have more problem to worry about regarding your n9 unit, especially early adopters. I found some difference in the display for newer unit compared to the old one. please refer to the following thread for more details.

http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=81217

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post Jan 5 2012, 09:25 AM

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QUOTE(nebousuke @ Jan 5 2012, 07:48 AM)
this thread is getting more and more ridiculous with the sim cutting issue, bottomline just get a new microsim for the most minimum hassle.

i think you guys have more problem to worry about regarding your n9 unit, especially early adopters. I found some difference in the display for newer unit compared to the old one. please refer to the following thread for more details.

http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=81217
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Looking on the "bright side"; initially, it was about telling people it's better to replace with reasons, examples, etc. It could be a good discussion whereby we share understanding on the risk and problem that could happen and why should we suggest A over B, it's suppose to come to a mutual understanding, but I guess EGO gets over everyone and we go overboard (yes, me included). Let's just say, winning or losing is not the matter, because what's important is that I share my point and I can only hope that people actually gets it. Thanks goodness someone who has done many sim cutting experience and have no problems with is able to stay calm, understand and think rational. Respect to him notworthy.gif

Sometimes, it take some people to step up and speak/inform others. We can choose to keep quiet or inform others about the risk involved and said it's better to do certain things (there're many types of scenario, such as, brake disc skimming, etc). If others disagree, that's normal, then we share our information/knowledge/experiences and try to understand each other; but from some of the recent reply, it's shocking and disappointing to read after all these, that was the reply, that was what was understood, that's what they think? I hope it was just EGO gets in the way, if not, I have nothing else to say; as I said, it defeats the purpose already.

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QUOTE(nebousuke @ Jan 5 2012, 07:48 AM)
this thread is getting more and more ridiculous with the sim cutting issue, bottomline just get a new microsim for the most minimum hassle.

i think you guys have more problem to worry about regarding your n9 unit, especially early adopters. I found some difference in the display for newer unit compared to the old one. please refer to the following thread for more details.

http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=81217
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ranger's units all green green one... or can i just say different white balance? LOL
sorry as my eyes not well calibrated to differentiate color accuracy... sweat.gif

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QUOTE(sklchan @ Jan 5 2012, 10:18 AM)
ranger's units all green green one... or can i just say different white balance? LOL
sorry as my eyes not well calibrated to differentiate color accuracy...  sweat.gif
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Mine is an early unit. Initially there was a greenish tinge when viewing at an angle but now it has disappeared.

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QUOTE(sklchan @ Jan 5 2012, 10:18 AM)
ranger's units all green green one... or can i just say different white balance? LOL
sorry as my eyes not well calibrated to differentiate color accuracy...  sweat.gif
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Naturally as I presumed that ranger's units are initial units, however my brother who recently just acquired the phone 2 weeks ago doesn't display the green cast while viewed from angled position. This had me puzzled and felt rather disturbed ever since to view my screen especially in low brightness when the green tint became quite visible even on straight angle position.

I am contemplating to send my unit to change display panel
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post Jan 5 2012, 12:14 PM

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Guys, I think we have heard enough of the micro-SIM issue, whatever message that you guys want to bring to the users have been achieved, please just stop and discuss on other issues. Please.
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does anyone here experienced phone suddenly turn off?
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post Jan 5 2012, 09:40 PM

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Molome is finally on the Nokia N9 check it out awesome interface and new features
http://store.ovi.com/content/113885
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QUOTE(k@|i0s @ Jan 5 2012, 08:47 PM)
does anyone here experienced phone suddenly turn off?
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No but if you give more details we can try to help.
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QUOTE(KennyKB @ Jan 5 2012, 10:03 PM)
No but if you give more details we can try to help.
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the thing is i put phone in pocket , when i double tap it no respond.tried it again,same things happen.hv to push power button untill white color appeared at led then the phone is on ...i wonder wht makes it happen?bugs?hardware?..
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QUOTE(aspire2oo6 @ Jan 5 2012, 09:40 PM)
Molome is finally on the Nokia N9 check it out awesome interface and new features
http://store.ovi.com/content/113885
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I've downloaded it. Very nice GUI. The only problems none of my friends are using it sweat.gif
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Add me. A lot of the people in Nokia n8 thread using it.
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QUOTE(k@|i0s @ Jan 5 2012, 10:12 PM)
the thing is i put phone in pocket , when i double tap it no respond.tried it again,same things happen.hv to push power button untill white color appeared at led then the phone is on ...i wonder wht makes it happen?bugs?hardware?..
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I have experienced this..send to nokia care they said they only upgrade and reinstall my firmware..now its ok
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QUOTE(rathian_mhfu @ Jan 6 2012, 12:05 AM)
I have experienced this..send to nokia care they said they only upgrade and reinstall my firmware..now its ok
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thanks for the tips bro thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(k@|i0s @ Jan 6 2012, 12:15 AM)
thanks for the tips bro  thumbup.gif
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Ohhh dont thank me but thanks to nokia care lol

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