Not sure if there will be codecs available; For N900, after install codecs, it can play many types of file, then there is also mplayer, which can play even more types of file.
There's also substitles support.

In my-meego.com, there is KMPlayer available, but I haven't tried it yet.

As above mentioned, it can be resolved with codecs, and/or using mplayer.


mplayer also can, it's already available in older Maemo. The problem is it doesn't use GPU for decoding... So, it pretty much rely on the processor.

Surely not hardware related, since N900 which is much older, have no problems; Heard they even managed to get N900 to play 720p videos.

If you don't want it to capture, slide your hand away from the "button" then let go, then it won't capture.

Need not compare, it's definitely better, very obvious.

But for speed, smoothness, N9 wins hands down.

This post has been edited by Andy214: Oct 12 2011, 10:54 AM

Nothing wrong, it won't show 100% (depending on how they tweak it); The percentage is just for reference. You may see 0% the phone still didn't turn off.

Many of us own both, I have both, the difference in obvious.
Aspire have both and he got amazing skills, check out his Flickr.

If you don't look at which camera took it, you might not even be able to tell. It's more about the skill and how you utilize it.
But generally, N8 camera quality is way better. It's just like some people want to compare iPhone4 camera with N8... By looking at pictures along, you wouldn't really able to tell because like what aspire did, he can take amazing shots with N9, or iPhone4, but that doesn't mean it's better than N8.

I also heard CalvinPixels use his N8 did better than Nikon D3S, but that doesn't mean N8 is better than Nikon D3S, right? It's more about the skills, but if you want to compare the device/tools, then it's obvious which can produce better quality.

This post has been edited by Andy214: Oct 12 2011, 11:50 AM

Previously there was a website which show the comparison, but even that it's not a fair comparison due to limited control, the settings were different. N9 uses higher ISO which result in more noise, while N8 uses slower shutter speed.
And like KennyKB said, depend what you compare, lowlight or daytime/outdoor. If compare lowlight, it's VERY obvious.

For comparison, people can do tricks if you ONLY see the photo alone. I can provide better lighting condition for N9, so the end result can favor N9 or show comparable result.

I don't have the N8 with me now, I'm using N900 and N9 now, can't carry so many phones. But if you wanna see, just go to aspire's flickr and see yourself those photos taken with N9 and N8.

Tell the truth, you really wanna compare and FEEL it, go to Nokia Store, take the N8, take a sample shot, maybe you will UNDERSTAND IMMEDIATELY without even compare.

I didn't say not to share? I already said the difference is obvious and shared this information; But if you chose not to believe, I would suggest you to try it yourself.
I also explain that seeing images comparison does not make justice as the settings are different, and people can do different condition to fool others into thinking the other is better.

Manual control? What sort of manual control? It's still limited if you understand manual control in photography.

In V1 thread, already got people posted sample and the website comparison for lowlight, the difference is obvious, but the settings is still different, so the comparison is still not fair; Are you going to rely on that comparison?
Actually, I'm not sure why it's so hard to accept what people say; Is it you want to be convinced or hear that N9 is better?

I didn't say N9 camera is good or bad, let you judge; But if compare N8 and N9, the difference is just obvious. Don't have to trust anyone here, you can try it out yourself, or maybe you might think N9 is better, but it doesn't mean who is wrong or right. As long as you're happy.

As long as you're happy... after all, most people only want to read what they expect.

Not sure how is it better, and how is it compared; I suppose, let's compare ISO800 settings for both and see the quality produce in lowlight condition, and lowlight, I mean, indoors with flourescent light or poor lighting; Not outdoor shooting building with lights.

Yea, but need to get used to it too, sometimes accidentally swipe away the screen.
I turn on swipe down to close, so, sometimes accidentally close the app (landscape mode, the swipe down is landscape swipe down).

That's the surface part, which people can copy still.

The more appealing thing is the social network integration, when you set up your "accounts", it automatically pulls all your contact and flood your feeds homescreen. Your Contacts you can see all the information which they provide in the social network (e.g. FB), and from the contact, you can click to access their profile or initiate Chat (e.g. FB Chat, Skype Chat), which is not any 3rd party app, but built into OS Conversations (sms).
Actually this feature already available in N900/Maemo, but now its further refine.

Another appealing thing is the true multi-tasking.

But these things, not easily shown on surface; People will need to see it in detail or experience it to fully understand/appreciate it. Most people, if you tell them, the just "owh" or "so good ar", but not sure if they actually understand it; But when they actually use it, then they will understand it better.

Bigger aperture, yes, but smaller sensor wor? Sensor very important.
Bigger aperture, more light come enter, but sensor small, less light gathering ability already.

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Added on October 12, 2011, 5:38 pmYup, even N900 with only 256MB RAM, people push to the limit over 24apps running in background.

This one should do even much better.

This post has been edited by Andy214: Oct 12 2011, 05:38 PM

Sensor size will also affect the DOF; Bigger sensor will have more shallow DOF.


Previous Calvin got post one website, doing some calculations or something, the light gathering ability of N8 is still way better. So, it's more like + little, - more.
Maybe that's why they stick to lower megapixel also.

Thanks sifu!
Still no information on N9 sensor size right?

As previous mentioned, just slide it out of the focus/capture "button".

Try turn on face detection as well. Like aspire mentioned, there's continuous auto-focus, just it's not very fast, but it works. I just point the camera let it auto-focus itself then just snap as it goes.

The good thing about this over the N8 is that, the shutter speed seems is higher priority in auto mode (just like iPhone? probaby also due to no dedicated camera button), so it takes less blurry shot and it's easier/better experience to take photo compared to N8.

Yup, this part N900/Maemo still way better; Wonder why they didn't implement this, since they have it in Maemo; Plus, in Maemo, you can choose the upload quality from low to high up to ORIGINAL.

Can even post photo to wall. Only cannot post photo to others wall; Have to login to browser and post from there.

Yup, I've said it before long ago adn many times; not a true replacement for N900, it's just different; It's more like a refined N8, a better Symbian? It's just so much changes from Maemo.


The faster shutter in priority is nice, less blurry shot and better experience; Plus the continuous auto-focus. Nice.
The quality is not so bad for lowlight just that it's a bit dark or underexpose by default, or probably already maxed out the ISO, and still intend to keep the higher shutter priority.

Wonder how slow can the shutter go.


This post has been edited by Andy214: Oct 13 2011, 09:48 AM

Yup, but this phone seems to have higher priority for shutter in auto mode. I don't have to set the ISO high (unlike N8 or most digital camera, it will prioritize using lower ISO), the N9 will use higher ISO to compensate the higher shutter, OR maybe the shutter has a limited low speed to minimize shake when using on screen capture button?

Have to experiment to see what is the lowest ss it will go.

Yup, afterall, it's a Tablet OS
Loved the Desktop, you can have very unique and customized desktop. Just so much potential in that OS, sadly, it's stops there.



Perhaps the MeeGo Tablet version will be a more proper replacement

By default, it's also set to update manually. It will make a difference if set to update automatically.

Btw, for those concern with battery life, just charge everyday, or when you can; This is modern batteries, it doesn't need to wait until low battery only charge. In fact, it's better to keep it 'charge happy'.
The lifespan is based on charge cycle, typically from 300~500 charge cycle; each charge cycle means doesn't mean how many times you charge, but 1 charge cycle = 100% usage in total.
e.g. You use 20%, then you charge; You did not use 1 charge cycle, it's only 20% of 1 charge cycle.
If anybody don't believe, just take some courtesy and time to go read about it, even Apple website also post this.

Some example:
My PSP vs my friend's PSP; He always charge ONYL when his PSP low batt or turn off itself, while I charge anytime I like and seldom let it low batt, plus my battery is way older than his.
We go out for multi-play, both fully charge. His PSP gone low batt when mine still have 2/3 bar.


This post has been edited by Andy214: Oct 13 2011, 02:08 PM

No worries, each person have their own way, lifestyle, etc.

What I mean is, this applies generally to anybody, one can charge everyday when they're back home during the night. Charging overnight is OK too as when the phone is fully charge, it will cut off and will not charge until the battery drops below certain level (e.g. 85%). If one is concern with saving electricity and such, just unplug the charge when it's full.

Some people brings portable charger along; For hardcore users, even the portable charge is not enough; Imagine connected to 3G all the time, connected to IM (especially N9/N900, the IM/Social Network is integrated to your OS, once your 'ONLINE', it automatically logins to all the accounts (unless your disable it or have different settings), plus, the life feeds, etc.
As for people who compare with iPhone, iPhone doesn't have much really (I mean, cmon, there's no homescreen at all, just straight APPS MENU - it's more like nothing), so theoretically, it should have much more better battery life than most (if not all) smartphone with same capacity.

Just receive mail, today last day for Ranger to post up their review! LoL! I thought end of this month
Don't have the time for it today anyway.

That's good! Good Luck!

Yesterday I tried shooting in lowlight, not very low light, the camera seems refuse to use slow shutter, even it's already under-expose. I adjust EV + 2, also no difference, still dark. I guess it hit it's minimum shutter speed, which is still quite fast to compensate some shake.
Got good and bad, less blur shot, like iPhone, and makes people think it's fast like iPhone.

Hehe, I'm out of the game, today last day, didn't read properly, no time to do today/weekday.

Anyway, didn't have much confidence either from the start due to the "requirement" for level 2. Just do what I can.

Yup, actually no point using slow shutter for phone which end up with blurry shots; If needed slow shutter, it can give another preset for it.

Personally, I prefer this over N8, shooting indoor lowlight on kids, you need faster shutter speed and easy to capture/fast. N8 has been more of a 'trouble' to capture the 'moment' and it's slow and "sort of" harder to use. The N9 somehow works better or more "efficient". The difference in quality, it's really much unless you go into the details, pixel peep, etc. In this scenario, capturing the moment and ease of use is more preferred.
I guess that's why iPhone were preferred by many, as it's easy to use (simple) and it's fast and smooth.

This post has been edited by Andy214: Oct 14 2011, 11:51 AM