QUOTE(cempedaklife @ Nov 3 2017, 11:59 AM)
EPF have tax relief of up to RM6k. Not sure if you can use that RM6k to buy UT. Will try it out.Private Retirement Fund, What the hell is that??
Private Retirement Fund, What the hell is that??
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Nov 3 2017, 12:26 PM
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Nov 3 2017, 02:01 PM
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QUOTE(cempedaklife @ Nov 3 2017, 11:59 AM) i hope U dont mind me clarifying here - our buddy.. U ask (A), he answer (B) pulak. maybe not enough coffee kua A. If U take out from EPF A/C1 to buy EPF approved mutual fund - NO tax relief. extra bonus info B. If U buy PRS - "tax relief" up to MYR3K, NOT "tax exemption". very different between the two, ask your favourite tax expert C. There is a way to buy PRS "using" EPF A/C2 but it involves a mortgage Hope the above clarifies / helps |
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Nov 3 2017, 02:06 PM
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QUOTE(wongmunkeong @ Nov 3 2017, 02:01 PM) i hope U dont mind me clarifying here - our buddy.. U ask (A), he answer (B) pulak. maybe not enough coffee kua Let me clarify with sifu wong. When you topup EPF, money masuk which account?A. If U take out from EPF A/C1 to buy EPF approved mutual fund - NO tax relief. extra bonus info B. If U buy PRS - "tax relief" up to MYR3K, NOT "tax exemption". very different between the two, ask your favourite tax expert C. There is a way to buy PRS "using" EPF A/C2 but it involves a mortgage Hope the above clarifies / helps |
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Nov 3 2017, 04:27 PM
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If buy straight from PPA website will it incur any sales fee?
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Nov 3 2017, 04:51 PM
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Nov 3 2017, 05:12 PM
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Nov 3 2017, 06:52 PM
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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Nov 3 2017, 05:12 PM) But if we put RM6k into EPF and use that RM6k to invest in UT, that RM6k is eligible for tax relief right? Wrong, impratical as u cannot withdraw all ur epf for ut investment. Depends on the amount u have and age, the withdrawable amount is from 0% to 20% of the total epf. |
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Nov 3 2017, 07:05 PM
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Question is which PRS fund it’s eligible for EPF investment?
Putting 6k into EPF then divert to PRS to get another 3k tax relief? You think IRB would allow such loophole to exist? |
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Nov 3 2017, 07:27 PM
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QUOTE(i1899 @ Nov 3 2017, 06:52 PM) Wrong, impratical as u cannot withdraw all ur epf for ut investment. Better than leaving 100% inside there earning 5-6%.Depends on the amount u have and age, the withdrawable amount is from 0% to 20% of the total epf. QUOTE(rapple @ Nov 3 2017, 07:05 PM) Question is which PRS fund it’s eligible for EPF investment? It's not a loophole. Putting 6k into EPF then divert to PRS to get another 3k tax relief? You think IRB would allow such loophole to exist? PRS RM3k Self contribute EPF/buy insurance = RM6k The question is how to go about with the RM6k. I am not too sure about procedure. Will try and experiment and see. |
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Nov 3 2017, 07:55 PM
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QUOTE(wongmunkeong @ Nov 3 2017, 02:01 PM) i hope U dont mind me clarifying here - our buddy.. U ask (A), he answer (B) pulak. maybe not enough coffee kua I know My tax. No need to ask expert. But yeah, the term I use was wrong. A. If U take out from EPF A/C1 to buy EPF approved mutual fund - NO tax relief. extra bonus info B. If U buy PRS - "tax relief" up to MYR3K, NOT "tax exemption". very different between the two, ask your favourite tax expert C. There is a way to buy PRS "using" EPF A/C2 but it involves a mortgage Hope the above clarifies / helps This post has been edited by cempedaklife: Nov 3 2017, 07:58 PM |
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Nov 3 2017, 07:58 PM
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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Nov 3 2017, 07:27 PM) Better than leaving 100% inside there earning 5-6%. Bro. Not sure if you misunderstand the rm6k tax relief. As long as you contribute to epf, the amount you contributed for the year is eligible for the 6k. You can check the amount you contributed in your EA form. You don't need to do anything.It's not a loophole. PRS RM3k Self contribute EPF/buy insurance = RM6k The question is how to go about with the RM6k. I am not too sure about procedure. Will try and experiment and see. |
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Nov 3 2017, 08:01 PM
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QUOTE(cempedaklife @ Nov 3 2017, 07:58 PM) Bro. Not sure if you misunderstand the rm6k tax relief. As long as you contribute to epf, the amount you contributed for the year is eligible for the 6k. You can check the amount you contributed in your EA form. You don't need to do anything. That I know. My thoughts are to use that RM6k you deposited into EPF to invest into UT. Make the money work harder. |
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Nov 3 2017, 08:03 PM
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Nov 3 2017, 08:39 PM
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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Nov 3 2017, 08:01 PM) That I know. My thoughts are to use that RM6k you deposited into EPF to invest into UT. Make the money work harder. Which PRS fund is open to EPF investment?U dump 6k into EPF and the same 6k invest into a PRS fund to get another 3k tax relief? Basically you are trying to get a 9k tax relief with only 6k contribution, not a loophole? Anyway let me us know if you manage to invest money from EPF into a prs fund. I will gladly switch them over any day. If it’s a non-PRS UT then there’s is no tax relief given at all. This post has been edited by rapple: Nov 3 2017, 08:41 PM |
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Nov 3 2017, 08:49 PM
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QUOTE(rapple @ Nov 3 2017, 08:39 PM) Which PRS fund is open to EPF investment? No. U dump 6k into EPF and the same 6k invest into a PRS fund to get another 3k tax relief? Basically you are trying to get a 9k tax relief with only 6k contribution, not a loophole? Anyway let me us know if you manage to invest money from EPF into a prs fund. I will gladly switch them over any day. If it’s a normal UT then there’s is no tax relief given at all. RM6k > EPF > UT RN3k > PRS |
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Nov 3 2017, 08:51 PM
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Nov 4 2017, 02:18 PM
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QUOTE(gurrenlagann @ Nov 4 2017, 02:10 PM) I think the answer is here....https://www.fundsupermart.com.my/main/faq/1...me-PRS--8865#16 |
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Nov 6 2017, 10:46 PM
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Hi, just wondering for the Rm3k PRS to get tax rebate, can the 1k given by government be included? It yes, i will just transfer Rm2k to the fund.
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Nov 6 2017, 10:54 PM
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Nov 6 2017, 11:01 PM
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QUOTE(silverwave @ Nov 6 2017, 10:46 PM) Hi, just wondering for the Rm3k PRS to get tax rebate, can the 1k given by government be included? It yes, i will just transfer Rm2k to the fund. do you mean the RM1000 from the Youth incentive scheme?if yes,....try read this.... https://www.fundsupermart.com.my/main/faq/1...me-PRS--8865#31 |
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