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post Dec 31 2014, 10:08 AM

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QUOTE(sms2u @ Dec 30 2014, 10:01 AM)
Any body know if purhcase ut in public mutual website, need jhow long for the floast transaction processed?
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Usually 3 working days assuming you did your transaction before 4pm.
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post Dec 21 2015, 04:48 PM

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QUOTE(wing2010 @ Dec 21 2015, 04:41 PM)
ohh so what i thought was actually possible!  rclxms.gif
such coincidence we had the same mindset for tax relief purpose lol

plan to walk in to the nearest affin hwang tomorrow, hopefully can get it done
mind to enlighten me what documents they'll need from me?
just wanna confirm it's solely "dump in 3k every dec for tax relief" kan? LOL so is basically once a year payment
may i know how many years we need to commit ah? until retirement kah? or can be 10 years only? (since the relief only valid for first 10 years kan?)
what's the return like btway?
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PRS is a voluntary pension scheme.

Tax relief until 2021.
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post Jan 9 2017, 11:27 AM

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QUOTE(zestsc1028 @ Jan 6 2017, 08:22 PM)
Just notice that the PRS website was updated.
So it is official now that the Youth Incentive has increased from RM500 to RM1000.
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Pursuant to Budget 2017, the incentive amount has been enhanced by the government to RM1,000. The government will contribute RM1,000 per qualified youth to be used to purchase units of PRS funds in the PRS account. To qualify, the youth has to accumulate a minimum gross contribution amount of RM1,000 during a period of two (2) years from 2017-2018.


Updated source: http://www.ppa.my/prs/prs-youth/prs-youth-incentive/
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post Mar 6 2017, 10:27 AM

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QUOTE(jutamind @ Mar 6 2017, 10:19 AM)
FSM doesnt seems to provide annual statement/tax relief statement for PRS investments. How do you guys keep track of PRS investment amount per year if audited by income tax dept?
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PPA will send out the tax relief statement.
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post Mar 6 2017, 10:47 AM

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QUOTE(jutamind @ Mar 6 2017, 10:34 AM)
i didnt get tax relief statement since beginning of PRS statement many years back. I only get annual statement which doesnt represent annual investment amount
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Sorry, i just read again the PPA letter.

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The Provider's statement remains as the official document for the purposes of filing for a tax relief claim.

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post Nov 1 2017, 01:03 PM

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QUOTE(gu~wak_zhai @ Nov 1 2017, 11:12 AM)
I was waiting for the Budget to announce the increase in Youth incentive, seems like no changes?
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No changes.

The RM1,000 PRS Youth Incentive will be given if you contribute in 2017 and 2018.


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post Nov 2 2017, 09:13 AM

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QUOTE(familyfirst @ Nov 2 2017, 09:12 AM)
Does this mean there is no change to the tax incentive for PRS overall?  No extension?
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Until YA 2021 if not mistaken. If there is any extension they will announce it in Budget 2020 / 2021.
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post Nov 2 2017, 09:31 AM

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QUOTE(mephyll @ Nov 2 2017, 09:28 AM)
may i know where you open your PRS account?
is it there are charges of account opening of RM10.60 & annual fees RM8.48

if online? other than FSM, any other website provide such service?
i read in FSM FAQ, there are charges:

WHAT ARE THE CHARGES TO APPLY FOR PPA ACCOUNT?

A: For first-time PPA account application, there is a PPA account opening fee of RM10.60* which will be deducted from your investment amount.
Subsequently, an annual fee of RM8.48* will be deducted from your investment amount for subsequent investment on the next calendar year. *GST 6% included.

https://www.fundsupermart.com.my/main/faq/1...eme-PRS--8865#5
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Yes. Those charges are paid to PPA.

Whether you buy online from FSM or directly from other Fund Houses it's the same.

At least, FSM it's zero service charge.

This post has been edited by rapple: Nov 2 2017, 09:32 AM
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post Nov 3 2017, 07:05 PM

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Question is which PRS fund it’s eligible for EPF investment?

Putting 6k into EPF then divert to PRS to get another 3k tax relief? You think IRB would allow such loophole to exist?
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post Nov 3 2017, 08:39 PM

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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Nov 3 2017, 08:01 PM)
That I know.  My thoughts are to use that RM6k you deposited into EPF to invest into UT. Make the money work harder.
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Which PRS fund is open to EPF investment?

U dump 6k into EPF and the same 6k invest into a PRS fund to get another 3k tax relief? Basically you are trying to get a 9k tax relief with only 6k contribution, not a loophole?

Anyway let me us know if you manage to invest money from EPF into a prs fund. I will gladly switch them over any day.

If it’s a non-PRS UT then there’s is no tax relief given at all.

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post Nov 3 2017, 08:51 PM

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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Nov 3 2017, 08:49 PM)
No.
RM6k > EPF > UT
RN3k > PRS
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Like someone else said earlier EPF withdrawal for UT investment depends on your age and account 1 balance. If you don’t have the minimum balance you won’t be able to withdraw anything at all.


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post Nov 18 2017, 11:07 AM

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QUOTE(Zamorin1 @ Nov 18 2017, 10:55 AM)
The purpose of prs is to guarantee that you have savings before you retire right?what happens if say the stock market crashes. I mean I want to ensure that my investment is protected even when the stock market crashes right?
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What kind of investment is protected/guaranteed besides EPF & ASNB?

Those "investment" you bought through Insurance Company is also investing in UT. The only thing that is protected when you buy through Insurance Company it's YOU / YOUR LOVE ONES, not the "INVESTMENT".
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post Nov 29 2017, 09:22 AM

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QUOTE(Trulyasia@ @ Nov 29 2017, 08:48 AM)
Is it worth it?
How much tax return can get if annual income like 50k
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Assuming:-

Total Income - RM50,000
Less:
Personal Relief - RM9,000
EPF@11% - RM5,500

Total Chargeable Income - RM35,500

First RM35,000 = RM900
Balance RM500 @ 10% = RM50
Total Tax Payable = RM950

If you have further tax relief deduction, your tax rate will be at 5% and also a tax rebate of RM400 for chargeable income less than RM35,000.

If you can't save any tax from it but if you are not more than 30 years old, contributing RM1,000 PRS you will get the PRS Youth Incentive of RM1,000 from government.

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post Nov 29 2017, 12:49 PM

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QUOTE(Trulyasia@ @ Nov 29 2017, 11:34 AM)
For my case can get roughly how much? I mean rebate of how much money.
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QUOTE(ben3003 @ Nov 29 2017, 12:07 PM)
not much, u say ur annual income 50k, then tax relief personal 9k, epf and life insurance assume u fully utilize 6k, then 2.5k assume u subscribe unifi also full. 50k-9k-6k-2.5k is 32.5k. so the tax u are paying is like at most 1k? then if 32.5-3k tax relief, is 29k, so u only can save less than 100 maybe lol.

So not worth it. Please do ur own homework if u wan to calculate exact u can save, no spoon feeding here. else get the fuking PRS agent who persuade u to buy their PRS to do it for u, they are paid for that, i aint.

https://ringgitplus.com/en/blog/Personal-Fi...Guide-2017.html
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If follow the above:

Tax Chargeable - RM32,500

First RM20,000 - RM150.00
Balance RM12,500 @ 5% - RM625
Total Tax Payable - RM775
Less: Tax Rebate - RM400
Balance Tax Payable - RM335

If contribute 3k PRS @ 5% = RM150 tax save




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post Nov 29 2017, 02:27 PM

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QUOTE(fun_feng @ Nov 29 2017, 02:04 PM)
Wth are you talking about?? You do not buy PRS, you pay your tax, you see your 3k immediately in front of you. What do you mean "never see your money again at 55 years old"??????

Specifically to TS case, he gets a paltry 5% rebate. Amortized over a period of 30 years (estimate), that is only 0.16% p.a. With the money locked for 30 years and with limited funds to choose from, 0.16% is not worth the effort.

IMO, PRS tax relief is only worth it if your tax bracket is >20% and you are near to retirement age
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It's actually an instant return of 5% for that year and the fund will grow right? How can you amortized the return over 30 years when you gain the return immediately by paying less tax?

If TS, it's still age 30 and below just put in RM1k to get the youth incentive. The tax you saved for the full RM3k it's not much given your tax rate it's still low.


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post Mar 16 2018, 05:17 PM

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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Jan 9 2018, 05:59 PM)
Govt do one time payout either
"The incentive will be credited on bi-annual basis and PPA expects to receive and process the pay-out within 4 months from the cut off date of 30th June and 31st December each year."
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QUOTE(iamkid @ Mar 16 2018, 05:07 PM)
i also open in march. found no answer, only this. keep waiting  hmm.gif
When will I receive the RM1,000? How will the incentive be transferred to me?

The RM1,000 will be automatically credited into the sub-account A of your qualified PRS Fund. PPA will notify you once the Incentive pay-out has been made into your qualified PRS Fund in the form of units.
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post Jun 9 2018, 11:36 AM

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QUOTE(badkid @ Jun 7 2018, 02:26 PM)
Change of gomen, the rm3k tax relief still still be happening or not hor? Since gomen high hutang now...
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Not sure.

Till now the 1k incentive due for 2017 contribution is still not credited into my account yet.

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post Jun 21 2018, 12:20 PM

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QUOTE(ChiaW3n @ Jun 21 2018, 12:01 PM)
i heard from my friend right, opening up first time with FSM mafan.
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0% service charge, so a little bit of inconvenience is acceptable.


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post Jul 12 2018, 08:52 AM

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Dear PRS Member

While the Youth Incentive payment has been approved in mid-April-May, we are still waiting for the disbursement from Ministry of Finance to PPA.

This is taking longer than usual as the Treasury Department is undergoing a transition.

Should you require further assistance, kindly contact us at 1-300-131 PPA(772) between 8:30 am to 5:30 pm, Monday to Friday (except public holidays) or you can e-mail us at askPPA@ppa.my

Thank you.

Yours sincerely,
PPA


Hmm.. I wonder why ADAM50 can get the RM200 incentive so fast.
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post Jul 28 2018, 10:25 AM

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QUOTE(HappySunglasses @ Jul 28 2018, 09:59 AM)
If I invested rm1000 into PRS, PPA charge me RM10.60 for account opening and gst....

Do I still entitled for the RM1000 free from gov?

Asked my agent and she said she not sure, ask me wait and see😅
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I think most people here who invested last year that entitled, is yet to received the incentive.

Till now I haven't received mine.

So i'm not sure whether the incentive is actually depleted or discontinued or other factors.

PPA replied on 12th July 2018
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While the Youth Incentive payment has been approved in mid-April-May, we are still waiting for the disbursement from Ministry of Finance to PPA. This is taking longer than usual as the Treasury Department is undergoing a transition.




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