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post Feb 23 2014, 04:43 PM

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QUOTE(suadrif @ Feb 23 2014, 01:31 AM)
H2D, i am thinking to get a cordless drill to do few DIY job, but occasionally i will need it to drill my house wall to hang few things.
some people said that cordless drill is not sufficient to drill wall, is it true?
i dont think my wall is a concrete or beam except area at the corners or pillars.

which one is more economical for my case?
a) buy one cordless drill (Skil or Black&Decker RM180++) for DIY job and one corded drill for wall (Black&Decker for RM140++)
b) buy one cordless drill (BOSCH RM300++) for both job.

but if I go for option B, which model should i get? my max budget is not more than RM400  rclxub.gif
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Just get a cord impact drill with 500w capacity. It can do both job. Wall and DIY. Just train yourself a bit more muscle. But not that heavy either.

Cordless can do limited job. With just screw and drilling. The only good is lighter without cord.
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post Feb 23 2014, 04:52 PM

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QUOTE(H2D @ Feb 23 2014, 01:55 PM)
your diy job, involves screwing n drilling small holes? on wood n metal?

a cordless is much more convenient. if u mainly wana screw n drill holes, ( except wall )

get a cordless with adjustable clutch.

the more expensive, the lighter the tool n bigger battery capacity.

pref Li-Ion model.
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a cordless drill without impact, will take a long time.. to drill brick wall.

if the hole is small.. u can try.. make sure dun burn the motor, let it rest a few times.

a corded impact drill, can cover most of ur need except, u will find it very diff to control if u wana
screw, oso heavy..

a rotary hammer is mainly for drilling brick n masonry concrete, chiseling...
uses SDS+ chuck, it might not be the one u need.

i think u should invest in a cordless first. get a good one. go to hardware shop to test, some have demo units.
get one tht u feel is not too heavy.

then try on ur wall, if it really can't drill the hole, then u get another corded impact drill. ( u sound like drilling wall is ur 2nd priority.)
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Yes true enough, drilling wall is my second priority.
Coz I m not gonna drill wall every month and I m not a house contractor.

Currently I m eyeing for Skil 2214 with 14v dual gear and clutch. Is it a good option?

Some people said for diy, just get a China brand cordless drill also can, is it true?

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post Feb 23 2014, 05:04 PM

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QUOTE(suadrif @ Feb 23 2014, 04:52 PM)
Yes true enough, drilling wall is my second priority.
Coz I m not gonna drill wall every month and I m not a house contractor.

Currently I m eyeing for Skil 2214 with 14v dual gear and clutch. Is it a good option?

Some people said for diy, just get a China brand cordless drill also can, is it true?
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wht do u wana do most with your drill, tht's the most important thing... biggrin.gif


cordless can screw much better than an impact drill with cord....
n much more convenient just grab n go...
no nid all those pull wire thing..


for ur first tool, i think better just get SKIL cos it is backed by bosch service,
i've been to their service center in jalan ipoh, very decent, can get job done fast.

china stuff... well....
if u wana use it just for a few times, n very sure not gona use it again for a long long time,
then it is worth a gamble...
but the price has to be cheap, real cheap...

for eg, i just got a rm50 china jigsaw...
done a few jobs with it...
and 1 part easily cracks... n i can't get any replacement parts...
so when it is fully cracked, i won't be able to use it anymore..

skil 2214 , with dual speed...
it meets ur budget so i think it is worth it...

This post has been edited by H2D: Feb 23 2014, 05:06 PM
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post Feb 24 2014, 05:03 PM

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QUOTE(ozak @ Feb 23 2014, 04:43 PM)
Just get a cord impact drill with 500w capacity. It can do both job. Wall and DIY. Just train yourself a bit more muscle. But not that heavy either.

Cordless can do limited job. With just screw and drilling. The only good is lighter without cord.
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train my muscle is no problem biggrin.gif
but the problem is it damaged my screw and my furniture tongue.gif

QUOTE(H2D @ Feb 23 2014, 05:04 PM)
wht do u wana do most with your drill, tht's the most important thing...  biggrin.gif
cordless can screw much better than an impact drill with cord....
n much more convenient just grab n go...
no nid all those pull wire thing..
for ur first tool, i think better just get SKIL cos it is backed by bosch service,
i've been to their service center in jalan ipoh, very decent, can get job done fast.

china stuff... well....
if u wana use it just for a few times, n very sure not gona use it again for a long long time,
then it is worth a gamble...
but the price has to be cheap, real cheap...

for eg, i just got a rm50 china jigsaw...
done a few jobs with it...
and 1 part easily cracks... n i can't get any replacement parts...
so when it is fully cracked, i won't be able to use it anymore..

skil 2214 , with dual speed...
it meets ur budget so i think it is worth it...
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ok will go for it smile.gif
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post Feb 24 2014, 05:28 PM

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QUOTE(suadrif @ Feb 24 2014, 05:03 PM)
train my muscle is no problem  biggrin.gif
but the problem is it damaged my screw and my furniture  tongue.gif
ok will go for it  smile.gif
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I don't no which 1 more important for you. The saving or the type of work.

For saving 2in1, Impact drill can save your money. Cause it can use for wall and any normal drilling. For screw, just use screw driver.

Or train yourself how to control it. The impact drill like bosch is speed controllable.

Otherwise you got to buy 2 type of drill.

I use a lot of impact drill for Ikea furniture assembly. Not a problem at all.
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any one here owns SKIL2414 or GSR10.8 any differences? also does any one know the cordless skill and bosch 10.8 li battery is the same? many thanks
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QUOTE(Eng_Tat @ Feb 24 2014, 08:53 PM)
any one here owns SKIL2414 or GSR10.8 any differences? also does any one know the cordless skill and bosch 10.8 li battery is the same?  many thanks
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price of bosch can buy 2x skil 2414 .... biggrin.gif

u compare the spec n see the real thing... i think u can see the difference....
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The price difference is around rm150 but both comes with two batteries. price is around rm300 vs rm450. nvr tried skill but i have gdr 10.8. wander if their batteried is interchangeable. since rm300 comes with 2 batteries is quite worth, as the bosch batt cost rm90 each.


QUOTE(H2D @ Feb 24 2014, 11:23 PM)
price of bosch can buy 2x skil 2414 ....  biggrin.gif

u compare the spec n see the real thing... i think u can see the difference....
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QUOTE(Eng_Tat @ Feb 24 2014, 08:53 PM)
any one here owns SKIL2414 or GSR10.8 any differences? also does any one know the cordless skill and bosch 10.8 li battery is the same?  many thanks
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im bought skill 2414 after reading gud feedback from user mostly from US...very satisfied with gud battery life ,grips and nice carrying bag..with the price cheaper than bosch you can buy extra drill bits sets..that what i do thumbup.gif
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post Feb 26 2014, 07:26 PM

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Bro hw much did you bought this set?

QUOTE(shahrul_sama @ Feb 26 2014, 11:22 AM)
im bought skill 2414 after reading gud feedback from user mostly from US...very satisfied with gud battery life ,grips and nice carrying bag..with the price  cheaper than bosch you can buy extra drill bits  sets..that what i do thumbup.gif
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post Feb 26 2014, 10:31 PM

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QUOTE(Eng_Tat @ Feb 26 2014, 07:26 PM)
Bro hw much did you bought this set?
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Rm290 from hardware shop
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post Feb 27 2014, 06:00 PM

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this set comes with two battery rite? is their battery compatible with bosch?

QUOTE(shahrul_sama @ Feb 26 2014, 10:31 PM)
Rm290 from hardware shop
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QUOTE(Eng_Tat @ Feb 27 2014, 06:00 PM)
this set comes with two battery rite? is their battery compatible with bosch?
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Will get two .... I don't think will compatible with Bosch because the design already different...
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I've just moved in to a new place and wanna start with some DIY projects, mainly home furniture and fixtures (which needs drilling to the concrete wall).

I live in a condo, build somewhere in the early 2000s.

Now after reading the thread, it seems like the way to go is a rotary hammer drill with another drill to screw stuffs.

I can still budget for the above but am I better off saving that money and buy myself this drill that is currently on sale ACE Hardware? http://www.acehardware.com.my/Promotions_4_1.htm

Will it still do its job? Am afraid after purchasing nanti, cannot drill to my concrete wall pulak.

If no, then I'll just but the infamous Makita rotary hammer.

Thank you all.

This post has been edited by djlake: Mar 2 2014, 02:02 PM
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post Mar 2 2014, 05:15 PM

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bro that bnd is repercussion drill, get proper rotary if you drill alot of holes.

QUOTE(djlake @ Mar 2 2014, 01:59 PM)
I've just moved in to a new place and wanna start with some DIY projects, mainly home furniture and fixtures (which needs drilling to the concrete wall).

I live in a condo, build somewhere in the early 2000s.

Now after reading the thread, it seems like the way to go is a rotary hammer drill with another drill to screw stuffs.

I can still budget for the above but am I better off saving that money and buy myself this drill that is currently on sale ACE Hardware? http://www.acehardware.com.my/Promotions_4_1.htm

Will it still do its job? Am afraid after purchasing nanti, cannot drill to my concrete wall pulak.

If no, then I'll just but the infamous Makita rotary hammer.

Thank you all.
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QUOTE(Eng_Tat @ Mar 2 2014, 05:15 PM)
bro that bnd is repercussion drill, get proper rotary if you drill alot of holes.
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Will be drilling a lot of holes (pun intended tongue.gif)

Thank you for the advice.
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post Mar 2 2014, 08:46 PM

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QUOTE(djlake @ Mar 2 2014, 01:59 PM)
I've just moved in to a new place and wanna start with some DIY projects, mainly home furniture and fixtures (which needs drilling to the concrete wall).

I live in a condo, build somewhere in the early 2000s.

Now after reading the thread, it seems like the way to go is a rotary hammer drill with another drill to screw stuffs.

I can still budget for the above but am I better off saving that money and buy myself this drill that is currently on sale ACE Hardware? http://www.acehardware.com.my/Promotions_4_1.htm

Will it still do its job? Am afraid after purchasing nanti, cannot drill to my concrete wall pulak.

If no, then I'll just but the infamous Makita rotary hammer.

Thank you all.
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That drill is enough for you to drill some concrete. But make sure it is 400w or above.
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QUOTE(djlake @ Mar 2 2014, 01:59 PM)
I've just moved in to a new place and wanna start with some DIY projects, mainly home furniture and fixtures (which needs drilling to the concrete wall).

I live in a condo, build somewhere in the early 2000s.

Now after reading the thread, it seems like the way to go is a rotary hammer drill with another drill to screw stuffs.

I can still budget for the above but am I better off saving that money and buy myself this drill that is currently on sale ACE Hardware? http://www.acehardware.com.my/Promotions_4_1.htm

Will it still do its job? Am afraid after purchasing nanti, cannot drill to my concrete wall pulak.

If no, then I'll just but the infamous Makita rotary hammer.

Thank you all.
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brick wall or concrete wall??

i have a 700W... bosch gsb 16re impact drill... brick still ok ok , but if concrete when it hits the stone....
will have a hard time drilling....

rotary hammer is kinda limited to masonry work/drilling, unless the chuck can be changed, or u put an adapter,
but tht 'll feel not as smooth the rotation....
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Was just surveying around for drill and i bumped into this wonderful thread..guess my usage will be similar to most already asked here..minor drillings in my condo. Walls included..wsa budgeting around rm300 for a drill. Googled around for what to look for, otherwise i might have chosen the one with the most attractive box which in my case is the black and deckers tongue.gif

Was seriously considering the 12v black and decker EPC12 for my usage.
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QUOTE(H2D @ Mar 2 2014, 10:22 PM)
brick wall or concrete wall??

i have a 700W... bosch gsb 16re impact drill... brick still ok ok , but if concrete when it hits the stone....
will have a hard time drilling....

rotary hammer is kinda limited to masonry work/drilling, unless the chuck can be changed, or u put an adapter,
but tht 'll feel not as smooth the rotation....
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Definitely concrete wall.

Yah, that's the challenge, only limited to that.

I might just get a decent rotary drill and the one that is on sale.

Anyways, thank you smile.gif

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