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zenix
post May 12 2023, 03:16 PM

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wow install onto old pc?
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post May 12 2023, 03:21 PM

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QUOTE(tng55 @ May 11 2023, 11:37 PM)
Most business or enterprise grade managed switch should be okay.
For brand i cant give any recommendation,since i never get used to any managed switch.

My suggestion is get a managed switch(IF Not using enterprise grade switch ),
And split your network to multiple switch,
All CCTV use 1 switch,PC use 1 switch, Wifi AP use 1 switch,others device use 1 switch or just connect to PC or Wifi switch.

Concept 1:
BTU <Ethernet> Enterprise grade router <Ethernet / SFP+> Multiple Switch <>end device
This way u just setup switch on the router size,should be isolate different switch.(Example setup Router Lan Port 2 and 4 cant communicate directly)

Concept 2:
BTU <Ethernet> mid-high Consumer grade router <Ethernet> Managed Switch <Ethernet / SFP+> managed/unmanaged Switch <>end device
This way the router is not powerful,but the traffic exchange task given to Managed switch chip to manage. (But the total uplink bandwidth is low ,unless the router and switch support LACP or LAN aggregation OR 10G router + switch)

Example: (With Mikrotik) RB5009 As router. (CCR router should be better,If you have VPN tunnel usage,get better grade router)
BTU <LAN 1 --- LAN 2> RB5009 For Unifi Access

RB5009 <LAN 3 --- LAN1> Switch A - 1G POE switch For CCTV
RB5009 <LAN 4 --- LAN1> Switch B - 1G POE or non-POE switch For AP/Mesh
RB5009 <LAN 5/6 --- LAN1/2> Switch C - 1G managed switch For PC (2Port with LACP/Link Aggregation)
RB5009 <LAN 7 --- LAN1> Switch D - 1G switch for other device

RB5009 <LAN 1 --- LAN 1> 2.5G LAN device / 2.5G switch or 2.5G Fiber optic converter(with GPON Stick to Replace BTU/ONR)

RB5009 <SFP+> 10G Server or switch or something else or GPON Stick(to Replace BTU/ONR)


Keep in mind: RB5009 Switch only have total 10G link to Router CPU.

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post May 12 2023, 03:31 PM

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QUOTE(zenix @ May 12 2023, 03:16 PM)
wow install onto old pc?
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repurpose intel 478.Cant afford pc engines board 😁
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post May 12 2023, 05:32 PM

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QUOTE(hasmidzul_jojo @ May 12 2023, 03:31 PM)
repurpose intel 478.Cant afford pc engines board 😁
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i got an old i7 acer lappy
monitor kaput
can use for this project hehe

but mikrotik router look sexy
simple
unlike asus punya mcm alien facehugger or spider
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post May 12 2023, 06:15 PM


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QUOTE(hasmidzul_jojo @ May 12 2023, 07:06 AM)
@soonwai,hap ax3 wifi 6 indeed have some problem.It is the "key handshake timeout thing",although the signal strengh is good.
On the 5GHz channel,the physical wifi indicate "down" several time but not on the 2GHz channel,but still rejecting clients on both band and on 2GHz client(running non AX devices) able to reconnect without intervention.
Sadly thou,on the 5Ghz ax device,i still need to scroll to setting and wifi,initiate wifi search and select the given AP,( client is not connected automatically after disconnected.)But,it only occur once(manual reconnecting) during 20hrs of test.
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Mine ok so far. Latest config below.

ax3 7.9 wifi uptime 6 days 17 hours and counting. Last reboot 6 May.

May 2: key handshake timeout: 0, can't find PMKSA: 54
May 3: key handshake timeout: 371, can't find PMKSA: 2
May 4: key handshake timeout: 4, can't find PMKSA: 0
May 5: key handshake timeout: 0, can't find PMKSA: 0
May 6: key handshake timeout: 2, can't find PMKSA: 1
May 7: key handshake timeout: 1, can't find PMKSA: 0
May 8: key handshake timeout: 0, can't find PMKSA: 2
May 9: key handshake timeout: 0, can't find PMKSA: 1
May 10: key handshake timeout: 8, can't find PMKSA: 0
May 11: key handshake timeout: 5, can't find PMKSA: 2
May 12: key handshake timeout: 10, can't find PMKSA: 1

CODE
# may/09/2023 04:15:47 by RouterOS 7.9
# model = C53UiG+5HPaxD2HPaxD
/interface wifiwave2
set [ find default-name=wifi1 ] channel.band=5ghz-ax .skip-dfs-channels=disabled .width=20/40/80mhz \
   configuration.country=Malaysia .mode=ap .ssid=mtk disabled=no security.authentication-types=wpa2-psk,wpa3-psk \
   .disable-pmkid=no .encryption=ccmp,gcmp,ccmp-256,gcmp-256 .wps=push-button
set [ find default-name=wifi2 ] channel.band=2ghz-ax .skip-dfs-channels=disabled .width=20mhz configuration.country=\
   Malaysia .mode=ap .ssid=mtk disabled=no mtu=1500 security.authentication-types=wpa-psk,wpa2-psk .disable-pmkid=no \
   .encryption=ccmp,gcmp,ccmp-256,gcmp-256 .wps=push-button

The most notable changes from previous configs are:
1. .disable-pmkid=no (I've had this at yes or no previously. Didn't seem to make a difference.)
2. .wps=push-button (This is the first time I've enabled it. Before this, I always had WPS disabled.)

From here: https://forum.mikrotik.com/viewtopic.php?t=191304#p1001014

This post has been edited by soonwai: May 12 2023, 06:47 PM
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post May 12 2023, 08:13 PM

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soonwai
post May 13 2023, 03:55 AM


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Update: 13 May 3:50am
Finally ax3 7.9 wifi died. Total wifi uptime: 7 days 2hrs. Time to try 7.10beta.
May 12: key handshake timeout: 11, can't find PMKSA: 1
May 13: key handshake timeout: 297, can't find PMKSA: 1

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post May 13 2023, 08:39 AM

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I have never have this "cant find PMKSA" on my log.

This is my wifi config

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/interface/wifiwave2> print detail
Flags: M - master; D - dynamic; B - bound; X - disabled, I - inactive, R - running
0 M BR default-name="wifi2" name="2GHz" mac-address=XX:XX:XX:XX:XX:XX arp-timeout=auto radio-mac=XX:XX:XX:XX:XX:XX
       configuration.mode=ap .ssid="2GHzAX" .country=Malaysia .hide-ssid=yes
       security.authentication-types=wpa2-psk,wpa3-psk .passphrase="XX:XX:XX:XX:XX:XX"
       channel.frequency=2412 .band=2ghz-ax .width=20/40mhz .skip-dfs-channels=disabled

1 M BR default-name="wifi1" name="5GHz" mac-address=XX:XX:XX:XX:XX:XX arp-timeout=auto radio-mac=XX:XX:XX:XX:XX:XX
       configuration.mode=ap .ssid="5GHzAX" .country=Malaysia .hide-ssid=yes
       security.authentication-types=wpa2-psk,wpa3-psk .passphrase="XX:XX:XX:XX:XX:XX"
       channel.frequency=5260 .band=5ghz-ax .width=20/40/80mhz .skip-dfs-channels=disabled

2    X name="wifi3" mac-address=XX:XX:XX:XX:XX:XX arp-timeout=auto master-interface=5GHz
       configuration.mode=ap .ssid="Guests"
       security.passphrase="XX:XX:XX:XX:XX:XX"

3    X name="wifi4" mac-address=XX:XX:XX:XX:XX:XX arp-timeout=auto master-interface=2GHz
       configuration.mode=ap .ssid="Guests"
       security.passphrase="XX:XX:XX:XX:XX:XX"


What do you mean "wifi died"?Do you need to restart the router to get the wifi back on?Or just toggle reenabling wifi interface?
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post May 13 2023, 09:42 AM


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QUOTE(hasmidzul_jojo @ May 13 2023, 08:39 AM)
I have never have this "cant find PMKSA" on my log.

This is my wifi config

CODE
/interface/wifiwave2> print detail
Flags: M - master; D - dynamic; B - bound; X - disabled, I - inactive, R - running
0 M BR default-name="wifi2" name="2GHz" mac-address=XX:XX:XX:XX:XX:XX arp-timeout=auto radio-mac=XX:XX:XX:XX:XX:XX
       configuration.mode=ap .ssid="2GHzAX" .country=Malaysia .hide-ssid=yes
       security.authentication-types=wpa2-psk,wpa3-psk .passphrase="XX:XX:XX:XX:XX:XX"
       channel.frequency=2412 .band=2ghz-ax .width=20/40mhz .skip-dfs-channels=disabled

1 M BR default-name="wifi1" name="5GHz" mac-address=XX:XX:XX:XX:XX:XX arp-timeout=auto radio-mac=XX:XX:XX:XX:XX:XX
       configuration.mode=ap .ssid="5GHzAX" .country=Malaysia .hide-ssid=yes
       security.authentication-types=wpa2-psk,wpa3-psk .passphrase="XX:XX:XX:XX:XX:XX"
       channel.frequency=5260 .band=5ghz-ax .width=20/40/80mhz .skip-dfs-channels=disabled

2    X name="wifi3" mac-address=XX:XX:XX:XX:XX:XX arp-timeout=auto master-interface=5GHz
       configuration.mode=ap .ssid="Guests"
       security.passphrase="XX:XX:XX:XX:XX:XX"

3    X name="wifi4" mac-address=XX:XX:XX:XX:XX:XX arp-timeout=auto master-interface=2GHz
       configuration.mode=ap .ssid="Guests"
       security.passphrase="XX:XX:XX:XX:XX:XX"


What do you mean "wifi died"?Do you need to restart the router to get the wifi back on?Or just toggle reenabling wifi interface?
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Totally dead. All devices not able to connect. Toggling the wifi interfaces doesn't work. Have to reboot.

PMKSA is not really a problem. I think I have that because my 2.4Ghz is wpa & wpa2 while my 5Ghz is wpa2 & wpa3.

When the wifi dies, I have tons of "key handshake timeout." Supposedly fixed in 7.10beta5.

This post has been edited by soonwai: May 13 2023, 09:44 AM
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post May 13 2023, 05:39 PM


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ax3 7.10beta5
It's only been 12 hours but so far 1 x "can't find PMKSA" on the 2.4Ghz. No "key handshake timeout."
2.4Ghz is wpa & wpa2. 5Ghz is wpa2 & wpa3.

Looking good.

Update:
14 May 5:00pm. ax3 7.10beta5 wifi died again. Total wifi uptime: 1 days 12hrs.
15 May 12:20pm. ax3 7.10beta5 wifi died again. Total wifi uptime: 7 hrs 20 mins.

May 14: key handshake timeout: 117 (in a space of 40mins), can't find PMKSA: 0
May 15: key handshake timeout: 64 (in a space of 2hrs), can't find PMKSA: 0

As usual, had to reboot.

This post has been edited by soonwai: May 15 2023, 02:29 AM
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post May 14 2023, 07:33 PM

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Tested the Mikrotik 7.10Beta5 on my AX2, it's facing the same WiFi timeout crash issue, and need to reboot, I have to revert back to 7.8 to fix the issue.

This post has been edited by mamakap: May 14 2023, 07:34 PM
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post May 14 2023, 09:02 PM

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Mine running 7.9.Hap ax3.Alerady running 2days 6 hours,disconnection on both 2GHz and 5GHz occationally depite having a good signal(signal lost on log),but able to reconnecting without wifi being dead.
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post May 15 2023, 02:26 AM


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QUOTE(hasmidzul_jojo @ May 14 2023, 09:02 PM)
Mine running 7.9.Hap ax3.Alerady running 2days 6 hours,disconnection on both 2GHz and 5GHz  occationally depite having a good signal(signal lost on log),but able to reconnecting without wifi being dead.
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Crashed after 7hrs 24mins. doh.gif

This one I had FT turned on. Maybe shouldn't have done that. Back off for now.

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post May 15 2023, 09:31 AM

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Based on my personal experience i don't enable the wifi inside my hap ac2 it will cost the unit overheat and wifi crash get another ap for wifi purposes from Ubiquiti or WiFi 6 or 6e from another brand pair it with mikrotik . I personally use Huawei AX3 Pro for my WiFi AP so far no issues working great


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post May 15 2023, 09:32 AM

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QUOTE(soonwai @ May 15 2023, 02:26 AM)
Crashed after 7hrs 24mins.  doh.gif

This one I had FT turned on. Maybe shouldn't have done that. Back off for now.
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Sleep early soonwai. We are old already. Better to sleep early. They will fix it with the next update.
After almost 1year the finally fix the PPOE problem with RB5009. Now almost no slow respond from the net after V7.9.

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post May 15 2023, 06:32 PM


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QUOTE(MX510 @ May 15 2023, 09:31 AM)
Based on my personal experience i don't enable the wifi inside my hap ac2 it will cost the unit overheat and wifi crash get another ap for wifi purposes from Ubiquiti or WiFi 6 or 6e from another brand pair it with mikrotik . I personally use Huawei AX3 Pro for my WiFi AP so far no issues working great
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Too hot for our Malaysian weather. Currently I'm keeping track of the temp for ax3. As high as 55c.

This post has been edited by soonwai: May 15 2023, 06:32 PM
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QUOTE(MX510 @ May 15 2023, 09:31 AM)
Based on my personal experience i don't enable the wifi inside my hap ac2 it will cost the unit overheat and wifi crash get another ap for wifi purposes from Ubiquiti or WiFi 6 or 6e from another brand pair it with mikrotik . I personally use Huawei AX3 Pro for my WiFi AP so far no issues working great
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I run my hap ac2 with wireless turn on 24/7 since day one,run like a mule.the only thing that kaput was the power supply.Mine came with the 246MB of ram.It did run hot,dont get me wrong.No external cooling what so ever,sitting at our fisherman living room,with a table fan cooling me and my family. Never fail me once.I just run hap ac2 today just to compare the hap ax3 wifi log.

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post May 15 2023, 06:59 PM

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QUOTE(soonwai @ May 15 2023, 06:32 PM)
Too hot for our Malaysian weather. Currently I'm keeping track of the temp for ax3. As high as 55c.
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Mine run as high as 61 and as low as 59.
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post May 16 2023, 02:26 PM

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Outside temp is 43c today.
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post May 16 2023, 02:48 PM


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QUOTE(OlgaC4 @ May 16 2023, 02:26 PM)
Outside temp is 43c today.
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34c in the room where the ax3 is. Its temp is 54-55c. 1-2% CPU usage. Wifi still up: 1 day 12hrs. sweat.gif

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