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tng55
post May 6 2023, 12:01 PM

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QUOTE(go626201 @ May 6 2023, 02:28 AM)
I think Mikrotik price is more reasonable and cheaper, which can think we actually is buying routeros software with free mikrotik hardware.
I bought RB750Gr3 few years ago because of Soonwai.  tongue.gif
Thanks to Soonwai for bringing me to the Mikrotik RouterOS world,
I using alot of wireguard service with worldwide vps as VPN usage.  brows.gif

My future plan will be 1-2 years(2024/2025) later that i will just buy CCR model to replace my RB5009. (Current usage for Wireguard is "performance hungry")
My estimated model will need atleast 2 SFP+ port with at least 1 10G Ethernet and maybe multiple 2.5G ethernet port.
1G can have or not,as i not really care about it,and I just bought a 2.5G switch(8x 2.5G and 1x SFP+ port) on taobao with 10G DAC cable to link with RB5009.

And i hope at the that time,Mikrotik have change their router to use the newer generation CPU(like recent 1-2 years released) for their router.
Current CCR cpu grade seems like not so powerful.
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yah need release launch new model for Mikrotik with hardware Latest
you bought 2.5G switch for Mikrotik ?

that good idea if multiple 2.5G ethernet port will be nice like replace RB5009 for new model

current CCR Cpu not so powerful look like weak

waiting Mikrotik hardware latest to launch hopefully
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post May 6 2023, 01:37 PM


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QUOTE(OlgaC4 @ May 6 2023, 10:01 AM)
My RB5009 always below 40c. Big heat sink below it and 3small fans rotating shift 24/7
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Mine no fans other than the room’s ceiling fan but I use it as my metal ruler holder. LOL. The ruler helps 1-2C.
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post May 6 2023, 07:17 PM

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Yo soonwai brows.gif

Give me review on MikroTik RB5009 and your usage scenario. Much appreciated if you're willing to. I planned to try out UDM-Pro by Ubiquiti, but Subtel's inhouse network engineer is not good enough in guiding me or providing me crucial details about UDM-Pro.
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QUOTE(Jjuggler @ May 6 2023, 07:17 PM)
Yo soonwai  brows.gif

Give me review on MikroTik RB5009 and your usage scenario. Much appreciated if you're willing to. I planned to try out UDM-Pro by Ubiquiti, but Subtel's inhouse network engineer is not good enough in guiding me or providing me crucial details about UDM-Pro.
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wow you tring out UDM-PRO by Ubiquiti hope review

i don't know compare how to powerful
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post May 6 2023, 11:40 PM

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QUOTE(tng55 @ May 6 2023, 10:44 PM)
wow you tring out UDM-PRO by Ubiquiti hope review

i don't know compare how to powerful
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No bro. I didn't proceed to buy the UDM-Pro. I still lean towards Mikrotik for their robust routing feature. However, I do have experience in using UBNT's EdgeRouter, precisely the 6P model. One of the best SME router I've used. Still, RouterOS wins.
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QUOTE(Jjuggler @ May 6 2023, 07:17 PM)
Yo soonwai  brows.gif

Give me review on MikroTik RB5009 and your usage scenario. Much appreciated if you're willing to. I planned to try out UDM-Pro by Ubiquiti, but Subtel's inhouse network engineer is not good enough in guiding me or providing me crucial details about UDM-Pro.
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bro, no time to do proper review. What do you want to know? Basically same old same old. Just faster processor, one 2.5G port, one 10G SFP+, ROS7, container support which is really nice.

I just use as a router only. Nothing special. Just as legacy wireless package Capsman, a few internal VLANs, dyndns script. The containers also, I don't run on the RB5009, I put them on the ax3.

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post May 7 2023, 06:52 PM


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What's new in 7.9 (2023-May-02 08:35):
*) ipv6 - send out RA packet with "preferred-lifetime" set to "0" when IPv6 address is deactivated;

Is the above working for you all?

I've been using the script below to achieve the same thing since ROS6. Lazy to reconfigure my router to try.

Script (by sob) is from here: https://forum.mikrotik.com/viewtopic.php?t=182894#p911478

*Can't seem to post the script. Trigger lowyat forum security every time. For some reason, lyn does not like this line of text:
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:local Config {{name="addr1";addr="::0:0:0:1"}}
foreach C in=$Config do={
 :local IdAddr [/ipv6 address find comment=($C->"name")]
 :local Interface [/ipv6 address get $IdAddr interface]
 :local Disabled [/ipv6 address get $IdAddr disabled]
 :local IdPrefix [/ipv6 nd prefix find interface=$Interface valid-lifetime="0s"]
 :local OldAddr [/ipv6 address get $IdAddr address]
 :local OldPrefix (([:toip6 [:pick $OldAddr 0 [:find $OldAddr "/"]]] & ffff:ffff:ffff:ffff::)."/64")
#### pls remove extra spaces after the = sign
 :if ($"pd-valid"=  1) do={
   :log info "pd-valid is 1"
   :local NewAddr (([:toip6 [:pick $"pd-prefix" 0 [:find $"pd-prefix" "/"]]] | [:toip6 ($C->"addr")])."/64")
   :local NewPrefix (([:toip6 [:pick $NewAddr 0 [:find $NewAddr "/"]]] & ffff:ffff:ffff:ffff::)."/64")
   :if ($OldAddr != $NewAddr || $Disabled = true) do={
     :if ($OldPrefix = $NewPrefix)  do={
       /ipv6 nd prefix set $IdPrefix disabled=yes
       :delay 1s
     }
     :log info ($Interface.": new prefix: ".$NewPrefix)
     /ipv6 address set $IdAddr address=$NewAddr disabled=no
     :delay 1s
     :if ($OldPrefix != $NewPrefix && $OldPrefix != ::/64)  do={
       /ipv6 nd prefix set $IdPrefix prefix=$OldPrefix disabled=no
       :log info ($Interface.": expired prefix: ".$OldPrefix)
       :delay 1s
     }
   }
 } else={
   /ipv6 address set $IdAddr disabled=yes
   :delay 1s
   /ipv6 nd prefix set $IdPrefix prefix=$OldPrefix disabled=no
   :log info ($Interface.": expired prefix: ".$OldPrefix)
   :delay 1s
 }
}



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post May 9 2023, 01:38 PM

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QUOTE(soonwai @ May 7 2023, 05:25 PM)
bro, no time to do proper review. What do you want to know? Basically same old same old. Just faster processor, one 2.5G port, one 10G SFP+, ROS7, container support which is really nice.

I just use as a router only. Nothing special. Just as legacy wireless package Capsman, a few internal VLANs, dyndns script. The containers also, I don't run on the RB5009, I put them on the ax3.
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Hi soonwai, thanks man for responding. Just wanted to know what your view about the RB5009 since you are the one who introduced me to MikroTik. I plan to buy RB5009 as my old RB750Gr3 does not support container since it is based on MMIPS architecture. So sad container requires MT routers with arm, arm64, and x86 architectures. Eventually I sold my RB750Gr3 to buy / planning to buy the RB5009. So, just poking you to know is the performance of the RB5009 is good or versa.
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QUOTE(Jjuggler @ May 9 2023, 01:38 PM)
Hi soonwai, thanks man for responding. Just wanted to know what your view about the RB5009 since you are the one who introduced me to MikroTik. I plan to buy RB5009 as my old RB750Gr3 does not support container since it is based on MMIPS architecture. So sad container requires MT routers with arm, arm64, and x86 architectures. Eventually I sold my RB750Gr3 to buy / planning to buy the RB5009. So, just poking you to know is the performance of the RB5009 is good or versa.
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Performance pretty good. As you know, I'm only Unifi 800/200. I run the RB5009 with Fasttrack off. If I do https://speedtest.tm.com.my, CPU is about 40%.

My ax3 is running Adguard Home & Uptime-kuma and the CPU there is 1-2% with an occasional spike to 6%. Should be no problem putting these containers on the RB5009. Also have a 3rd container for letsencrypt but that only runs every 60 days.
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QUOTE(soonwai @ May 9 2023, 02:16 PM)
Performance pretty good. As you know, I'm only Unifi 800/200. I run the RB5009 with Fasttrack off. If I do https://speedtest.tm.com.my, CPU is about 40%.

My ax3 is running Adguard Home & Uptime-kuma and the CPU there is 1-2% with an occasional spike to 6%. Should be no problem putting these containers on the RB5009. Also have a 3rd container for letsencrypt but that only runs every 60 days.
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Are you planning to upgrade to higher package like 1/2Gbps? Do you think investing in MT 10GbE switch for home lab project, good? Have you used their switches before?
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post May 10 2023, 12:24 AM

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RB2011 They upgrade new but RJ45 ALL Port 1G not 2.5G




we waiting RB5009 upgrade more i think coming soon i not sure
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post May 10 2023, 01:34 AM

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QUOTE(tng55 @ May 10 2023, 12:24 AM)

we waiting RB5009 upgrade more i think coming soon i not sure
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I dont think so ,i estimate next RB5009 full/big upgrade model will be release ’1+’ - ‘3’ years later.
RB5009 just release 1 years plus only.
(I was one of the first who getting RB5009 in Malaysia)
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QUOTE(Jjuggler @ May 9 2023, 02:38 PM)
Are you planning to upgrade to higher package like 1/2Gbps? Do you think investing in MT 10GbE switch for home lab project, good? Have you used their switches before?
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Not at current pricing, hope got another round of turbo upgrade.

10GbE mahal. About RM650 for the 5 x SFP+ model then still need to get the SFP+ modules. Myself, maybe just get cheapo 2.5GbE switch from China or TPLink.

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QUOTE(go626201 @ May 10 2023, 01:34 AM)
I dont think so ,i estimate next RB5009 full/big upgrade model will be release ’1+’ - ‘3’ years later.
RB5009 just release 1 years plus only.
(I was one of the first who getting RB5009 in Malaysia)
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QUOTE(soonwai @ May 10 2023, 01:48 AM)
Not at current pricing, hope got another round of turbo upgrade.

10GbE mahal. About RM650 for the 5 x SFP+ model then still need to get the SFP+ modules. Myself, maybe just get cheapo 2.5GbE switch from China or TPLink.
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i looking switch 48 Ports 1GBPS enough

because i have HP Switch 16 Ports 1GBPS but fully Port for my office
CCTV+PC+photostat printing machine+Other thing weight machine barcode scan for counter PC using cari pos
HP Switch bad quality due sometime slow and my office many pc always use local file sharing networks + internet too
sometime slow and dc its was using unifi line good
router is ac68u no problem its 4 port not enough

that why i need more add Ports that why i take 48 ports future proof 1GBPS enough

i need stable switch faster

i don't know how is quality TPLink i saw 48 Ports i scared will slow file sharing network local pc and photostat printing machine
that why don't want trouble for office

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post May 10 2023, 07:46 AM

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QUOTE(tng55 @ May 10 2023, 12:24 AM)
RB2011 They upgrade new but RJ45 ALL Port 1G not 2.5G


we waiting RB5009 upgrade more i think coming soon i not sure
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That's.... just a repainted RB5009 with extra antenna attached to it. I thought kamen rider series having these repainted issue. doh.gif

QUOTE(soonwai @ May 10 2023, 01:48 AM)
Not at current pricing, hope got another round of turbo upgrade.

10GbE mahal. About RM650 for the 5 x SFP+ model then still need to get the SFP+ modules. Myself, maybe just get cheapo 2.5GbE switch from China or TPLink.
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From your pov, is it worth to invest on 10GbE switch from Mikrotik? I haven't use their switches.
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10GB mahal gila go for 2.5gb le
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QUOTE(tng55 @ May 10 2023, 12:24 AM)
RB2011 They upgrade new but RJ45 ALL Port 1G not 2.5G


we waiting RB5009 upgrade more i think coming soon i not sure
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All port 2.5g except port 1 which is 1G.
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QUOTE(soonwai @ Apr 18 2023, 05:27 PM)
Will do once I figure out how to backup the ax3 and its containers & data.

But I only Unifi 800/200 so that's the max I can test. The only pppoe server I have is on a tiny mAP Lite.
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Just tested Hap AX3, testing pppoe connected to unifi 300Mbps.Cpu still have a lot of room,clock at 1300Mhz approx @ 20% load on all cores without any SQM.
For the queue side,i use cake simple queue,diff 4 on inbound/outbound,best effort on total queue with fasttrack off, @ 285Mbps/48Mbps.The hap ax3 easily handle cake queue very well.
This will bring the cpu clock to max with plenty room to play with.
Just feel very happy with my purchase.

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post May 10 2023, 02:04 PM

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My suggestion:
If u do not need 10G managed switch,then just get a cheapo 10G unmanaged switch from somewhere else.
Mikrotik device is mainly use for managed network usage.

Mikrotik 4 SFP+ port 10G managed switch (CRS305-1G-4S+IN) cost RM729.
TP-Link CN 8 SFP+ port 10G unmanaged switch (TL-ST1008F) cost CNY609-749 (Around RM450+-)

4port vs 8 port
Almost RM 150-300 price difference.

And if 10G not a must for you at current stage,just wait for another 1-2 years,the price will be lower,as the hardware is cheaper and more cheaper soon with higher stability. (I estimate at least 20% more cheaper)

2.5G is a sweet spot for current stage,the price had came down from few months ago,As realtek release new chip for 2.5G switch.
Previously 5port 2.5G unmanaged switch cost around RM300-400,but now 8port 2.5G switch is cheaper than that.
I just bought one unmanaged switch with 8x 2.5G port + 1x 10G SFP+,and it cost me only RM250+

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QUOTE(tng55 @ May 10 2023, 02:47 AM)
i looking switch 48 Ports 1GBPS enough

because i have HP Switch 16 Ports 1GBPS but fully Port for my office
CCTV+PC+photostat printing machine+Other thing weight machine barcode scan for counter PC using cari pos
HP Switch bad quality due sometime slow and my office many pc always use local file sharing networks + internet too
sometime slow and dc its was using unifi line good
router is ac68u no problem its 4 port not enough

that why i need more add Ports that why i take 48 ports future proof 1GBPS enough

i need stable switch faster

i don't know how is quality TPLink i saw 48 Ports i scared will slow file sharing network local pc and photostat printing machine
that why don't want trouble for office
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Your usage better get a managed switch to separate your CCTV and PC network and other device.
And router upgrade might be needed,since AC68U is not for business usage,it might only use for lower concurrent device number with non-high concurrent usage.

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