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hasmidzul_jojo
post Apr 12 2023, 03:42 PM

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@soonwai,would you mind to do some test on max throughput on pppoe on those hap ax3?would love to see how much those 6010 @1.8Ghz could pull out.
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post Apr 12 2023, 03:52 PM

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QUOTE(soonwai @ Apr 12 2023, 03:19 PM)
ax3 is RM685. Bank vouchers will help with this.
https://s.lazada.com.my/s.5UAgb
A bit cheaper if buy direct.

Generally speaking I wouldn’t buy Mikrotik just for its WiFi. It’s always underperforming.
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Thank you. Seems like still not much improvement after all these years.
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post Apr 13 2023, 10:19 AM

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Mikrotik wifi always want stability rather then super performance speed.
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post Apr 13 2023, 12:00 PM

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QUOTE(OlgaC4 @ Apr 13 2023, 10:19 AM)
Mikrotik wifi always want stability rather then super performance speed.
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I'm curious. Are they still better than consumer wifi like TPlink, Asus, Deco...etc?
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QUOTE(cyberic @ Apr 13 2023, 12:00 PM)
I'm curious. Are they still better than consumer wifi like TPlink, Asus, Deco...etc?
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wifi will be almost the same but they are more to stable rather then fast. Free software upgrade and their hardware very hard to breakdown.
Best part you can link all their hardware from 10years old product.

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soonwai
post Apr 14 2023, 04:50 AM


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Anyone using containers? Any way to check how much RAM each container is using in RouterOS? atm I can only see total men usage in /System/Resources.

My hAP ax3 (basic AP config) running 3 containers, Adguard Home, uptime-kuma and Lego Letsencrypt client using total of 708.6MiB of RAM.
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post Apr 15 2023, 03:58 PM


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hAP ax3 (7.9rc2) wifi died again, key handshake timeout. 2nd time in 3-4 days.

Happened again today.

1. 3-4 days ago
2. 15 Apr 2023 3:30PM
3. 16 Apr 2023 2:30PM
4. 17 Apr 2023 8:55AM
5. 17 Apr 2023 10:55PM
6. 18 Apr 2023 5:00pm

This post has been edited by soonwai: Apr 18 2023, 05:27 PM
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post Apr 17 2023, 07:46 AM

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QUOTE(soonwai @ Apr 12 2023, 03:19 PM)
ax3 is RM685. Bank vouchers will help with this.
https://s.lazada.com.my/s.5UAgb
A bit cheaper if buy direct.

Generally speaking I wouldn’t buy Mikrotik just for its WiFi. It’s always underperforming.
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True

It's best for your router gateway but for the wifi got few issues like unit overheating better think other access point to get wifi 6 or wifi 6e


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QUOTE(cyberic @ Apr 12 2023, 03:52 PM)
Thank you. Seems like still not much improvement after all these years.
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For the older devices using "wireless" package, stability is very good and plenty of features but speed sure slower than consumer stuff. Here, I believe, Mikrotik wrote their own wireless driver. The new "wifiwave2" package uses stock driver. Can consider as work-in-progress for Mikrotik. Speed is much better ootb. The hAP ax3, and presumably the ax2, is actually faster than Deco x20 a bit.

However, still very unstable. Wifi on the ax3 keeps dying on me.
https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...ost&p=107059525

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post Apr 17 2023, 11:20 AM

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QUOTE(soonwai @ Apr 17 2023, 10:28 AM)
For the older devices using "wireless" package, stability is very good and plenty of features but speed sure slower than consumer stuff. Here, I believe, Mikrotik wrote their own wireless driver. The new "wifiwave2" package uses stock driver. Can consider as work-in-progress for Mikrotik. Speed is much better ootb. The hAP ax3, and presumably the ax2, is actually faster than Deco x20 a bit.

However, still very unstable. Wifi on the ax3 keeps dying on me.
https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...ost&p=107059525
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Over heat?
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QUOTE(OlgaC4 @ Apr 17 2023, 11:20 AM)
Over heat?
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I don't think so but the only temp I can monitor on the ax3 is CPU temp and that's around 50-59c. Load 0-5%. It's not routing, just basic AP config and 2 containers.

The wifi problem happens both AM and PM so I think not temp related. Will continue to monitor.

Update:
Not related to the wifi hanging but I noticed that with my ceiling fan on, hAP ax3 temp is 50C. Celing fan off, 59C.

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QUOTE(hasmidzul_jojo @ Apr 12 2023, 03:42 PM)
@soonwai,would you mind to do some test on max throughput on pppoe on those hap ax3?would love to see how much those 6010 @1.8Ghz could pull out.
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Will do once I figure out how to backup the ax3 and its containers & data.

But I only Unifi 800/200 so that's the max I can test. The only pppoe server I have is on a tiny mAP Lite.
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QUOTE(soonwai @ Apr 18 2023, 05:27 PM)
Will do once I figure out how to backup the ax3 and its containers & data.

But I only Unifi 800/200 so that's the max I can test. The only pppoe server I have is on a tiny mAP Lite.
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Wanted to change my hap ac2 router which have been very good to me.Have not decide yet to use mikrotik from end to end exclusively or getting other brand WIFI AP.Been eyeing on wifi 6e ap for less noise.
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QUOTE(hasmidzul_jojo @ Apr 18 2023, 05:51 PM)
Wanted to change my hap ac2 router which have been very good to me.Have not decide yet to use mikrotik from end to end exclusively or getting other brand WIFI AP.Been eyeing on wifi 6e ap for less noise.
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hAP ax3 is really hopeless. Wifi keeps hanging. Later check if I did anything stupid in the config but as far I remember, mostly defaults.

I have ac2 also. Was using before I changed to Deco x20 and then ax3. Now the ac2 just running as switch and The Dude server.

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My hapAC2 working great however i disable the wifi inside it and it's running 24/7 no issues at all.

I use Huawei AX3 Pro as WiFi AP connected to this router

Was thinking to change to HAPAC3

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QUOTE(soonwai @ Apr 17 2023, 10:28 AM)
For the older devices using "wireless" package, stability is very good and plenty of features but speed sure slower than consumer stuff. Here, I believe, Mikrotik wrote their own wireless driver. The new "wifiwave2" package uses stock driver. Can consider as work-in-progress for Mikrotik. Speed is much better ootb. The hAP ax3, and presumably the ax2, is actually faster than Deco x20 a bit.

However, still very unstable. Wifi on the ax3 keeps dying on me.
https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...ost&p=107059525
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yah why Mikrotik wifi but speed sure slower than consumer stuff

how about Ubiquiti Access Point Wifi i doubt wifi speed slower then consumer brand tp link asus etc wifi speed faster hmm.gif

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post Apr 19 2023, 01:59 AM


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QUOTE(tng55 @ Apr 19 2023, 01:52 AM)
yah why Mikrotik wifi but speed sure slower than consumer stuff

how about Ubiquiti Access Point Wifi i doubt wifi speed slower then consumer brand tp link asus etc wifi speed faster  hmm.gif
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No wor, ax3 faster a bit than Deco x20. But 1 ax3 = 1 x20 2-pack with a lot of change.. sweat.gif

Actually ax2 is a fairer comparison with x20. ax2 specs closer to x20. Price still bit more expensive. Anyway ax2 oos forced me to buy ax3 but now I'm glad that happened. I really like ax3 because got USB port for thumbdrive to run containers. The container feature is really good. Especially because I don't have Raspi or other device running 24/7.

Can't say anything about Asus or Ubiquiti which I don't use.

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post Apr 19 2023, 12:25 PM

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QUOTE(soonwai @ Apr 19 2023, 01:59 AM)
No wor, ax3 faster a bit than Deco x20. But 1 ax3 = 1 x20 2-pack with a lot of change.. sweat.gif

Actually ax2 is a fairer comparison with x20. ax2 specs closer to x20. Price still bit more expensive. Anyway ax2 oos forced me to buy ax3 but now I'm glad that happened. I really like ax3 because got USB port for thumbdrive to run containers. The container feature is really good. Especially because I don't have Raspi or other device running 24/7.

Can't say anything about Asus or Ubiquiti which I don't use.
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What thumbdrive you are using?

I was thinking to get a ssd to play with containers on RB5009. (Although i have a RPi 4 running 24/7 too)
Because pendrive is not design for long operating time,and the overall performance and life cycle is lower than ssd.
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QUOTE(go626201 @ Apr 19 2023, 12:25 PM)
What thumbdrive you are using?

I was thinking to get a ssd to play with containers on RB5009. (Although i have a RPi 4 running 24/7 too)
Because pendrive is not design for long operating time,and the overall performance and life cycle is lower than ssd.
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I’m using Sandisk Ultra Dual Drives. 2 older models with the white and clear casing instead of the current black one. I almost never use these so may as well stick it somewhere. I got too many thumbdrives.

64GB on the ax3 (containers and logs)
32GB on the RB5009 (just logs)

Also the ac2 has a Kingston USB2 2GB.
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