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post Feb 20 2022, 03:16 AM

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QUOTE(Gaara92 @ Feb 10 2022, 08:46 AM)
Here is the link. Mine is 15U but depth only limited to 550mm so you will not fit a standard server that mostly have 600mm in minimum depth let alone poweredge that is about 700mm. But it will do just for my homelab.

12U / 15U Open Server Rack ( 4 post open rack)
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you know where to find server case that fit in that rack? I want transform gaming case
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post Feb 20 2022, 11:06 AM

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QUOTE(Anime4000 @ Feb 20 2022, 03:16 AM)
you know where to find server case that fit in that rack? I want transform gaming case
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short server case quite hard to find, especially when my wall mounted server enclosure is less than 550mm
I settled for a 1U short depth supermicro case (recycled) (https://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=a1z09.2.0.0.cf992e8dQYVnSh&id=572750465193&_u=k2v7300vd415)

also got a 480W platinum plus rated PSU for short depth supermicro case (PWS-441P-1H), basically building a Frankenstein supermicro laugh.gif (https://store.supermicro.com/480w-1u-pws-441p-1h.html) (https://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=a1z09.2.0.0.cf992e8dQYVnSh&id=636335216874&_u=k2v7300va6c0)

this is just enough to the "mm" to fit a dual socket supermicro mobo that I bought, combined with 1U low profile copper heatsink and short depth high rpm 1U fans with two SATA SSD (3.5" HDD cannot fit into the case)

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those mobo mounting are for certain single CPU mobo size. had to remove and reconfigure some of them to mount the dual socket mobo
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keyword on Taobao is 短机箱

but I would recommend not doing 1U, basically the fans are too damn noisy

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Look nice!

too bad my server is full height:

I have 4 × 1TB SSD in RAIDz2 (TrueNAS + PCIe SATA Passthrough)

and 1 × 10TB HDD

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at least need 4U server rack with ATX screw.

If I managed to get proper server case then I use proper server rack instead of metal rack

sorry interject here, since my RB3011 died because of port flop, plan to buy RB5009 but out of stock, so I bought ER-12 while waiting RB5009 become available
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post Feb 20 2022, 05:00 PM

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QUOTE(Anime4000 @ Feb 20 2022, 04:18 PM)
sorry interject here, since my RB3011 died because of port flop, plan to buy RB5009 but out of stock, so I bought ER-12 while waiting RB5009 become available
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Get CCR series better. brows.gif
I am using RB5009 but now i more recommend CCR for more cpu core. (Because of IPsec performance not good with RB5009 and WG setting got abit problem)
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QUOTE(go626201 @ Feb 20 2022, 05:00 PM)
Get CCR series better.  brows.gif
I am using RB5009 but now i more recommend CCR for more cpu core. (Because of IPsec performance not good with RB5009 and WG setting got abit problem)
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Which CCR are you recommend?

CR2004-1G-12S+2XS is good?

I like to use SFP XPON ONU Stick, some router have compatibility issue.
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post Feb 20 2022, 05:13 PM

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QUOTE(Anime4000 @ Feb 20 2022, 04:18 PM)
quadcube
Look nice!

too bad my server is full height:

I have 4 × 1TB SSD in RAIDz2 (TrueNAS + PCIe SATA Passthrough)

and 1 × 10TB HDD

Attached Image

at least need 4U server rack with ATX screw.

If I managed to get proper server case then I use proper server rack instead of metal rack

sorry interject here, since my RB3011 died because of port flop, plan to buy RB5009 but out of stock, so I bought ER-12 while waiting RB5009 become available
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a proper rack would be great, but if you are still stuck with short ones, there are also 2U/4U ones (for e.g.: https://detail.tmall.com/item.htm?spm=a230r...=4708406741179)


on the side note, I think I remember seeing somewhere where you mentioned your friend helps you to host something in JP?
was wondering how he/she deals with the IPv6 setup there, specifically to the issue where stupid Japanese ISP only gives out /64 addresses (at least MY ISP didn't screw up this part laugh.gif )

I can't even properly firewall the IPv6 side since they are connected L2 bridge mode laugh.gif

seems like one way to do it is via ND proxy but Mikrotik doesn't have ND proxy, I think Ubiquiti also doesn't have them either

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QUOTE(Anime4000 @ Feb 20 2022, 05:07 PM)
Which CCR are you recommend?

CR2004-1G-12S+2XS is good?

I like to use SFP XPON ONU Stick, some router have compatibility issue.
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You need so many SFP Port?

For me i prefer CCR2004-16G-2S+,maybe because i dont need so many SFP port,(And also I though S+RJ10 or similar adapter quite hot?)
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QUOTE(go626201 @ Feb 20 2022, 05:13 PM)
You need so many SFP Port?

For me i prefer CCR2004-16G-2S+,maybe because i dont need so many SFP port,(And also I though S+RJ10 or similar adapter quite hot?)
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yes, S+RJ10 runs ungodly hot even in winter sweat.gif can't run them without active cooling
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QUOTE(quadcube @ Feb 20 2022, 05:13 PM)
a proper rack would be great, but if you are still stuck with short ones, there are also 2U/4U ones (for e.g.: https://detail.tmall.com/item.htm?spm=a230r...=4708406741179)
on the side note, I think I remember seeing somewhere where you mentioned your friend helps you to host something in JP?
was wondering how he/she deals with the IPv6 setup there, specifically to the issue where stupid Japanese ISP only gives out /64 addresses (at least MY ISP didn't screw up this part laugh.gif )

I can't even properly firewall the IPv6 side since they are connected L2 bridge mode laugh.gif

seems like one way to do it is via ND proxy but Mikrotik doesn't have ND proxy, I think Ubiquiti also doesn't have them either
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That case very blank~ I guess put case in horizontal

yes, JP give IPv6 /64 only, but my friend disable IPv6

Malaysia also same, give only /64, which is very bad.

Currently I use ND proxy, Android hate DHCPv6, both Mikrotik and Ubiquiti do have ND
here, I use ND Proxy on my RB3011: https://www.hitoha.moe/mikrotik-ipv6-over-pppoe/

added haxxor word, I do like this with IPv6:
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QUOTE(go626201 @ Feb 20 2022, 05:13 PM)
You need so many SFP Port?

For me i prefer CCR2004-16G-2S+,maybe because i dont need so many SFP port,(And also I though S+RJ10 or similar adapter quite hot?)
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not really, but doing 10GbE networking is nice tho, 1GbE hardly over-saturated SSD NAS.

Indeed SFP run hot even SFP XPON ONU can reach 61°C, Realtek SoC + Laser is very hot, pumping ~3dB back to TM OLT,
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QUOTE(Anime4000 @ Feb 20 2022, 05:36 PM)
That case very blank~ I guess put case in horizontal

yes, JP give IPv6 /64 only, but my friend disable IPv6

Malaysia also same, give only /64, which is very bad.

Currently I use ND proxy, Android hate DHCPv6, both Mikrotik and Ubiquiti do have ND
here, I use ND Proxy on my RB3011: https://www.hitoha.moe/mikrotik-ipv6-over-pppoe/

added haxxor word, I do like this with IPv6:
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not really, but doing 10GbE networking is nice tho, 1GbE hardly over-saturated SSD NAS.

Indeed SFP run hot even SFP XPON ONU can reach 61°C, Realtek SoC + Laser is very hot, pumping ~3dB back to TM OLT,
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ah, but damn..without ipv6, the congestion is really bad at peak period sweat.gif mine is an IPv6 only IPOE connection (dual stack via ds-lite), can't avoid it sweat.gif

eh? I thought MY gives out prefix? because my DHCP client gets the prefix from TM/Maxis and mikrotik side assigns the v6DHCP addresses from the prefix pool to the rest of the LAN devices (if I understands it correctly) sweat.gif

will try setting it again after going through your guide


my S+RJ10 runs at 88 celsius at low load, even with small heat sinks pasted to it laugh.gif
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QUOTE(Anime4000 @ Feb 20 2022, 05:36 PM)
not really, but doing 10GbE networking is nice tho, 1GbE hardly over-saturated SSD NAS.

Indeed SFP run hot even SFP XPON ONU can reach 61°C, Realtek SoC + Laser is very hot, pumping ~3dB back to TM OLT,
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S+RJ10 should be getting more higher temp than normal SFP adapter so i still not going to play around with it.. tongue.gif
maybe next few year got better chip or solution then at that time,i will try to get one for use. (Future-maybe with CCR router brows.gif )
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QUOTE(quadcube @ Feb 20 2022, 05:53 PM)
ah, but damn..without ipv6, the congestion is really bad at peak period sweat.gif mine is an IPv6 only IPOE connection (dual stack via ds-lite), can't avoid it sweat.gif

eh? I thought MY gives out prefix? because my DHCP client gets the prefix from TM/Maxis and mikrotik side assigns the v6DHCP addresses from the prefix pool to the rest of the LAN devices (if I understands it correctly) sweat.gif

will try setting it again after going through your guide
my S+RJ10 runs at 88 celsius at low load, even with small heat sinks pasted to it laugh.gif
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I tried /60 /52 /48 none of them are working... cannot do multiple subnet if like this, isolate IoT Device and PC's

ND is pretty simple, it use device MAC Address as IP Address, or IPv6 Token like this 2001:d08:e6:44fa::1000

many my web-server use IPv6 only to Cloudflare, no need HAProxy or Traefik.
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post Feb 21 2022, 04:25 PM

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QUOTE(Anime4000 @ Feb 20 2022, 03:16 AM)
you know where to find server case that fit in that rack? I want transform gaming case
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There is 4U short server case that fits in 550mm depth like this one https://shopee.com.my/4U-SERVER-CASING-~-NA...2152.7940837552

QUOTE(Anime4000 @ Feb 20 2022, 06:13 PM)
I tried /60 /52 /48 none of them are working... cannot do multiple subnet if like this, isolate IoT Device and PC's

ND is pretty simple, it use device MAC Address as IP Address, or IPv6 Token like this 2001:d08:e6:44fa::1000

many my web-server use IPv6 only to Cloudflare, no need HAProxy or Traefik.
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If you are on unifi/maxis biz they give out /56 prefix to you.
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post Feb 25 2022, 05:49 PM

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QUOTE(Gaara92 @ Feb 21 2022, 04:25 PM)
There is 4U short server case that fits in 550mm depth like this one https://shopee.com.my/4U-SERVER-CASING-~-NA...2152.7940837552
If you are on unifi/maxis biz they give out /56 prefix to you.
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I have tried to modify office unifi (@unifibiz) router with /56, not working... this need to request?
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QUOTE(Anime4000 @ Feb 25 2022, 05:49 PM)
I have tried to modify office unifi (@unifibiz) router with /56, not working... this need to request?
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Yes try request it manually.
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post Mar 3 2022, 01:10 PM

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quadcube Gaara92

Yesterday I went and buy RB5009
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after finish configure
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that USB cable is Maxis 4G Dongle

problem with 7.x DCHPv6-PD not working, it keep searching...

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QUOTE(Anime4000 @ Mar 3 2022, 01:10 PM)
quadcube Gaara92

Yesterday I went and buy RB5009
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after finish configure
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that USB cable is Maxis 4G Dongle

problem with 7.x DCHPv6-PD not working, it keep searching...
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DHCPv6-PD problem only happens on PPPoE VLan... I also waiting mikrotik to solve it,but i think maybe need wait half year to one year until they solve other ROS7 issue first...
Mikrotik forum got workaround to mitigate the issue,but i dont know how to do without additional device.(Someone said add another switch that handle vlan can mitigate it)
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QUOTE(Anime4000 @ Mar 3 2022, 01:10 PM)
quadcube Gaara92

Yesterday I went and buy RB5009
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after finish configure
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that USB cable is Maxis 4G Dongle

problem with 7.x DCHPv6-PD not working, it keep searching...
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Where got stock ?
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post Mar 3 2022, 03:46 PM

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May consider switching ER-12 -> RB5009... Afterall I'm more used to Mikrotik settings compared to Ubiquiti CLI.

Wonder what's the 2nd hand ER-12 price right now...

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