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post Sep 20 2011, 05:56 PM

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QUOTE(Nat0306 @ Sep 20 2011, 05:16 PM)
do u know the electricity charges different rate for every 100, how u want me to observe then? even if i get the reading so? end of the day do u know how much have i used? do u expect me to take the reading after i wake up every morning? dun forget they are using the same...
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Aiseh, ini simple maths also want people to teach meh?

Lets say total usage is 300 kWh, and you use 200 kWh, you pay the rate based on 300-100 kWh lah. Of course you cannot make your housemates pay the 100 kWh rage since you surpass the limit already. The couple go back hometown on weekends of course will use less electricity lah.

My god I think more and more you're the unreasonable housemates.

QUOTE(tech3910 @ Sep 20 2011, 05:22 PM)
apparently, there is no settling this.
only was is to throw all of them in 1 room, lock it, fight till death, gladiator style.
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This!
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post Sep 20 2011, 06:12 PM

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QUOTE(s2peMocls @ Sep 20 2011, 05:56 PM)
Aiseh, ini simple maths also want people to teach meh?

Lets say total usage is 300 kWh, and you use 200 kWh, you pay the rate based on 300-100 kWh lah. Of course you cannot make your housemates pay the 100 kWh rage since you surpass the limit already. The couple go back hometown on weekends of course will use less electricity lah.

My god I think more and more you're the unreasonable housemates.
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hello? they went back to hometown for 2/4 days per month but the rest of the 28 days 24/7 at home who uses more electricity?btw that's my ex housemates. if u think what they did is reasonable i think ur just the same type of ppl as them. we are supposed to see the monthly bill before we pay, but they purposely hide it until the wording faded, which is like few months later only they show us the bill and ask for money. i stayed there for 7 months, only paid twice for the electricity, total up almost 1k, each time have to pay a lump sum of 400-500. they calculate as what they thought is right and we have to pay without saying anything. is that fair enough?

moreover, i use 200kwh then i pay rate based on 300-100kwh?first of all u teach me how to take the reading first? since everyone is using the electricity at the same time, how do u know how much my room is using by just reading at the main meter?
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post Sep 20 2011, 08:35 PM

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TS, you just tell them you only use "fan mode". so it didn't consume electricity like in "cool mode".
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post Sep 20 2011, 09:08 PM

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QUOTE(xsaed @ Sep 20 2011, 08:33 PM)
u shall not seek any advice since u r unwilling listener. full stop

if u gip u get back.. u pay more bill, maybe they belanja u makan etc, normal ppl will be nice to whoever is nice to them, problem is who gonna start first... simple life skill, also TS fail
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i bet u didn't really read all the replies...am i not treating them nice? we offer meals for them, asking for gathering having steamboat together, they totally ignored..i pay more for the bill and they belanja me makan? next life i guess. yes u r right, normal ppl will be nice to whoever is nice to them, we do the same to the single tenant and he do the same to us, cook for us.

problem is who gonna start first...good question. they are the one who starting it first..i agreed to pay as what landlord told me to. they are the one who complain so much...please make things clear before commenting..anyway, thanks for ur kind advise.


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post Sep 20 2011, 09:09 PM

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QUOTE(Mr.Wang @ Sep 20 2011, 08:35 PM)
TS, you just tell them you only use "fan mode". so it didn't consume electricity like in "cool mode".
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i don't know what mode are they using but we are using fan mode with 24 degrees. aircond same power as theirs..i guess the best way is to ask them to install their own meter...i'm more than fine to pay more.
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post Sep 20 2011, 09:13 PM

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QUOTE(xsaed @ Sep 20 2011, 08:33 PM)
u shall not seek any advice since u r unwilling listener. full stop

if u gip u get back.. u pay more bill, maybe they belanja u makan etc, normal ppl will be nice to whoever is nice to them, problem is who gonna start first... simple life skill, also TS fail
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The problem is that these are not normal people. Also for your kind information, they started fighting and screaming first. These people, we give until they take for granted.

With this simple life skill of yours, all i can say is i wish you all the best.
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post Sep 20 2011, 09:22 PM

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QUOTE(s2peMocls @ Sep 20 2011, 05:56 PM)
Aiseh, ini simple maths also want people to teach meh?

Lets say total usage is 300 kWh, and you use 200 kWh, you pay the rate based on 300-100 kWh lah. Of course you cannot make your housemates pay the 100 kWh rage since you surpass the limit already. The couple go back hometown on weekends of course will use less electricity lah.
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100 + 100 + 100 = 300

50 + 150 + 50 = 300

123 + 27 + 150 = 300

40 + 140 + 120 = 300

10 + 10 + 280 = 300

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QUOTE(xsaed @ Sep 20 2011, 08:33 PM)
u shall not seek any advice since u r unwilling listener. full stop

if u gip u get back.. u pay more bill, maybe they belanja u makan etc, normal ppl will be nice to whoever is nice to them, problem is who gonna start first... simple life skill, also TS fail
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I believe TS describe her tenant, to what best i can conclude, as "unreasonable".

This post has been edited by MissIceRina: Sep 20 2011, 09:26 PM
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post Sep 20 2011, 09:22 PM

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QUOTE(Nat0306 @ Sep 20 2011, 09:09 PM)
i don't know what mode are they using but we are using fan mode with 24 degrees. aircond same power as theirs..i guess the best way is to ask them to install their own meter...i'm more than fine to pay more.
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no la. if you use fan mode, only got wind like the normal fan and your aircon won't cold. You just tell them you only use fan mode, so it don't consume too much electricity. brows.gif
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post Sep 20 2011, 09:26 PM

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QUOTE(Mr.Wang @ Sep 20 2011, 09:22 PM)
no la. if you use fan mode, only got wind like the normal fan and your aircon won't cold. You just tell them you only use fan mode, so it don't consume too much electricity. brows.gif
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i think the best way is to ask landlord take away their remote control so fair enough to say they dun use aircond..but no, i suggested that to them but they refuse to do so because they still want to use aircond..what lar?
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post Sep 20 2011, 09:31 PM

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QUOTE(MissIceRina @ Sep 20 2011, 09:22 PM)
100 + 100 + 100 =  300

50 + 150 + 50 = 300

123 + 27 + 150 = 300

40 + 140 + 120 =  300

10 + 10 + 280 = 300

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I believe TS describe her tenant, to what best i can conclude, as "unreasonable".
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precisely, i don't know how much we use, so do they, so base on what they claim that they use lesser than us? if i got all the readings i won't be refusing to pay more seriously...if they are reasonable ppl they wouldn't have shouted at me like mad, i wasn't arguing with them, talked nicely at first but they didn't even give a chance to talk nicely together, since she raised her volume so why should i give it a damn to listen to all the nonsense? sigh..nvm..i will just try my best to reduce the consumption which i think wouldn't make much different. they forgotten the increase of electricity which affect household with more than rm70 in total bill a month, so i should be the one who pay for the increase? i guess they never read the latest news...
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post Sep 20 2011, 09:36 PM

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QUOTE(Nat0306 @ Sep 20 2011, 09:26 PM)
i think the best way is to ask landlord take away their remote control so fair enough to say they dun use aircond..but no, i suggested that to them but they refuse to do so because they still want to use aircond..what lar?
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There is such thing as universal remote. Moreover, normally other remote still can be used if they are of the same brand.

By right and agreement, they have to pay equally (1/3) for they had agreed to the condition in the first place.

But if they are really that kiamsap, I guess the best way (other than moving out the house) is to install power meter at every power socket.

But I see new problem could arise from that.
If there are discrepancy between the total power meter reading and the monthly power statement, new dispute can arise.
It may be due to power leakage or it might be due to someone removing the power meter to use electricity unrecorded.

Unless the landlord are wiling to install power meter to measure power going to every room, there is no absolute way to measure who is using exactly how much.

This post has been edited by MissIceRina: Sep 20 2011, 09:38 PM
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post Sep 20 2011, 09:42 PM

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QUOTE(MissIceRina @ Sep 20 2011, 09:36 PM)
There is such thing as universal remote. Moreover, normally other remote still can be used if they are of the same brand.

By right and agreement, they have to pay equally (1/3) for they had agreed to the condition in the first place.

But if they are really that kiamsap, I guess the best way (other than moving out the house) is to install power meter at every power socket.

But I see new problem could arise from that.
If there are discrepancy between the total power meter reading and the monthly power statement, new dispute can arise.
It may be due to power leakage or it might be due to someone removing the power meter to use electricity unrecorded.

Unless the landlord are wiling to install power meter to measure power going to every room, there is no absolute way to measure who is using exactly how much.
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i totally agreed...when i was studying i was staying in a house will all separate meter installed, never had argument for 4 years of staying...fyi, my landlord quite kiamsiap also i guess so i don't think he wants to install for us, moreover this house is more like a family house than those house just for renting purpose..dunno lar, if landlord refuses to do anything we cant do anything as well...all we can do is reduce the consumption as much as we can.
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post Sep 20 2011, 09:58 PM

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24 degree consume little power only leh, somemore at nite only, they also got use aircond, then blame kao kao?

keep bill so long then want ppl pay, tell the landlord kick them lar, totally unacceptable, saja nak cari pasal orang mcm nie mad.gif
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if OWNER dont want to settle this things for u guys , I dunno wat to say..just tell ur owner , set a new price tat include the eletricity and water ..lets say rm1.1k for master room with water and electric , use as much as u can ..the bad thing is u have to pay more than u divide among all. but the best things is everyone need to pay for the same
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QUOTE(Nat0306 @ Sep 20 2011, 02:55 PM)
Hi forumers,

I have no idea where else to post this except here..hope to seek for rational advises.

Here is the story...

I have just moved in a new condo unit and renting a master bedroom, together staying with my bf, a couple (renting the middle room) and another tenant for the small room. all 3 rooms are equipped with aircond. 
before i confirm to rent the room, i have asked the house owner if all the bills are equally shared and the owner said yes, everything share equally so no argument.
but when we received the current month electricity bill, it costs almost RM300, which the previous months only about Rm150-Rm170 but no one is occupying the master room for previous months.

the problem is the couple who occupying the middle room are not happy with the high utilities and claimed that my bf and i causes the hike of electricity usage. we only on the aircond at night as we are out for working during daytime.

so here is their reason for refusing to pay equal share of the bill.
- their aircond was not functioning for the past 2 weeks.
- we are staying in high floor so they feel cold most of the time therefore they didn't on the aircond.
- so at the end they only willing to pay the least and master room and the small room have to pay most of it because we use aircond frequently.
here's their calculation. RM300/4 - the couple in the middle room will pay for 1 portion, and the other 3 portions bared by me and the single tenant. 

btw, is that my problem that they don't want to use the aircond?
am i obligated to listen to their so-called reasons and pay more than what i'm supposed to? it was agreed that everything divides equally so am i the wrong one for not paying more than the divided amount?

i'm quite frustrated because it happened twice, the house i stayed previously and the current house. i don't understand why is it so hard to find nice housemates who are willing to talk nicely instead of yelling at ppl for those reasons which don't make any sense to me...

advise needed, am i the wrong one?
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150-170 jump to 300 is normal becos 3 air con, plus u two i think will have computer right? the computer is 1 of the contributor as well...
understand this:
For the first 200 kWh (1 - 200 kWh) per month sen/kWh 21.8
For the next 100 kWh (201 - 300 kWh) per month sen/kWh 33.4
For the next 100 kWh (301 - 400 kWh) per month sen/kWh 40.0
For the first 100kWh (401 - 500 kWh) per month sen/kWh 40.2
For the next 100 kWh (501 - 600 kWh) per month sen/kWh 41.6
For the next 100 kWh (601 - 700 kWh) per month sen/kWh 42.6
For the next 100 kWh (701 - 800 kWh) per month sen/kWh 43.7
For the next 100 kWh (801 - 900 kWh) per month sen/kWh 45.3
For the next kWh (901 kWh onwards) per month sen/kWh 45.4

the more u used.. the rate increase ya.. previous month was 1st two level only now with u coming in.. the price now jump to 40-42 cent ya..
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post Sep 20 2011, 11:27 PM

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last time mine went back Hometown 1 month they still ask me pay for electricity ....i on super duper fire

I ask the dude tell me why i need to pay he gave me a reason he need to on the light so no burglar. But explain to me how you only on the light i need to fork out a share of RM100 ....

2 months later they call me azzhole and kick me out of the house ....these are the thing owes need to face renting a place to stay
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post Sep 20 2011, 11:35 PM

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in my situation here, already talk properly, everything share, room price fixed, no matter go back hometown or what, electric water still need pay, since everyone oso have some time to go back hometown one, no need so troublesome to calculate.



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QUOTE(pandah @ Sep 20 2011, 11:35 PM)
in my situation here, already talk properly, everything share, room price fixed, no matter go back hometown or what, electric water still need pay, since everyone oso have some time to go back hometown one, no need so troublesome to calculate.
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yeah...true, i go back hometown for weeks i never ask for reduce in rental or utilities, since everything agreed in the first place why still want to argue about it...the single room tenant wasn't here for two weeks last month, then he asked the couple how they want to calculate, they said when he is in the house he uses double electricity so offset with the 2 weeks when he wasn't here, so in the end, the single room tenant pay 2 shares n they only pay 1 share. 170/3, that time we haven't moved in yet. so the couple expect to pay below rm50 per month, with aircond. if exceeds RM50 they start making noise saying they don't want to pay more than that....i really headache about it...
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simple. pasang a meter for each room.
then charge accordingly.
its not that difficult to do.
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post Sep 20 2011, 11:43 PM

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QUOTE(cofin @ Sep 20 2011, 11:27 PM)
last time mine went back Hometown 1 month they still ask me pay for electricity ....i on super duper fire

I ask the dude tell me why i need to pay he gave me a reason he need to on the light so no burglar. But explain to me how you only on the light i need to fork out a share of RM100 ....

2 months later they call me azzhole and kick me out of the house ....these are the thing owes need to face renting a place to stay
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for ur case, i'm fine if u r away for a month...it's reasonable that u dun hv to pay for the electricity...turning on the lights won't cost u Rm100...it's good that they kick u out so that u can find a better place..

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