Hi forumers,

I have no idea where else to post this except here..hope to seek for rational advises.

Here is the story...

I have just moved in a new condo unit and renting a master bedroom, together staying with my bf, a couple (renting the middle room) and another tenant for the small room. all 3 rooms are equipped with aircond.
before i confirm to rent the room, i have asked the house owner if all the bills are equally shared and the owner said yes, everything share equally so no argument.
but when we received the current month electricity bill, it costs almost RM300, which the previous months only about Rm150-Rm170 but no one is occupying the master room for previous months.

the problem is the couple who occupying the middle room are not happy with the high utilities and claimed that my bf and i causes the hike of electricity usage. we only on the aircond at night as we are out for working during daytime.

so here is their reason for refusing to pay equal share of the bill.
- their aircond was not functioning for the past 2 weeks.
- we are staying in high floor so they feel cold most of the time therefore they didn't on the aircond.
- so at the end they only willing to pay the least and master room and the small room have to pay most of it because we use aircond frequently.
here's their calculation. RM300/4 - the couple in the middle room will pay for 1 portion, and the other 3 portions bared by me and the single tenant.

btw, is that my problem that they don't want to use the aircond?
am i obligated to listen to their so-called reasons and pay more than what i'm supposed to? it was agreed that everything divides equally so am i the wrong one for not paying more than the divided amount?

i'm quite frustrated because it happened twice, the house i stayed previously and the current house. i don't understand why is it so hard to find nice housemates who are willing to talk nicely instead of yelling at ppl for those reasons which don't make any sense to me...

advise needed, am i the wrong one?

seriously i don't think i'm wrong so why should i listen to them? they can afford to buy gucci bags, ipad, iphone but increase of 20-30 bucks can't afford to pay? summore we are sharing streamyx as well, the streamyx is actually my account, they said want to share so i share it with them, total bill divide by 5 person but the couple connect 4 devices and only paying for 2 shares..fair enough? i didn't even ask them to pay more and the line slow like shit with 7 devices connected..i just want to know am i wrong? if u were me will u pay what they ask for?

First of all, the previous month electricity bill so cheap is because only 2 rooms got ppl stay, the master room is empty. i rent a room with aircond but cannot on aircond, then what's the point i rent room with aircond? as i said, i only on when i go to bed at night, is that too much?
moreover, u rent a room but u dun use the aircond, why not u go get a room without aircond lar? the rooms got no meter, how can u accuse me use more than u? if got separate meter i won't argue so much but now the problem is i don't think i overuse. even if the bill over Rm600 i will still pay my share, i won't make noise as i already agreed everything share equally.

one more thing, my master room ain't bigger than their middle room, just with a personal bathroom that's it.

did u make things clear? i'm not complaining here...i pay my share, they are the one who making noise saying i have to pay more than wat is agreed..

their room got aircond also wad...then i can't assume they use more?

in the midst of upgrading the internet to unifi but am not going to share with them. i have enough bad experiences with these kind of unreasonable housemates. i spoke to my landlord before taking to room, he told me everything shares equally, but he refused to show up to settle for us regarding to this matter. sigh

i'm already paying a lot for the rental, it's 850 per month, i don't mind paying more for electricity as long as it's equally shared. i use it i'm willing to pay. i just dun understand why they don't get it. keep on saying that they din use much so no way they need to pay that much. common, the room has no individual meter, n u rented an aircond room, u tell me u din use much then i have to listen? i can also tell u that i didnt use much right?

my bf already blocked their smartphones from connecting to the wifi.
we talked nicely previously, asking them not to connect so many devices as really slowing down the internet.
then the bf said they only connect the devices but not using it...i was like...wtf?
then he shut it after that but the next day connect all devices again until we really dulan and block it..

they keep chasing me to upgrade it to unifi but seriously i will never share with this kind of kiamsiap ppl.

the landlord knows about it, asked me what happened right after we had the fight. i assume they must have been backstabbing us and the single tenant in front of the landlord. i only asked the landlord if what he told me before i take the room counts, he said yes, he is the one who asked me to divide the bill to 3 and i pay my portion. i'm just following what the landlord asked me to do..but the blardy couple calculate in their own way and ask for more money from me...if u were me u song anot?

we see the difference before and after blocking...so i think it works that way? anyway i know nothing about that, just that my bf has been complaining the keep dc-ing from his online game once they connect to the wifi.

i know 2 years contract, but can transfer to another address right? i did the transfer for my streamyx from my previous staying place to the new place so i assume it would be the same for unifi? worse comes to worst terminate it and pay rm200?

electricity is the main thing....

perhaps yeah...i won't deny i on aircond every night. i already told the landlord i will on aircond to sleep, if i don't need it i wouldn't go for aircond room in the first place. they said they feel cold at night so they won't on aircond, but anything to do with me? u pay for it u dun wan to use is ur problem mah?i actually answered that, but the gal replied "if u cold will u still on the aircond to sleep"? i was like...huh? u dun on it but u still have to pay right? unless u can prove to me how much electricity have u used then i'm fine with it. truly speechless...at first we choose to stay with chinese housemates because we had really bad experiences with the previous ***** indian housemates, they only show us the electricity bills after few months and all faded so we hardly can see the total amount, 4-5 months pay one lump sum of money, which is about 400-500 for the electricity..

first of all, the one who use the most is the single room tenant, he has been paying double before we move in the house, they argued even before we move in, same reason. they already take things for granted, in the current month the single room tenant stop paying for double and they start making noise.
can u teach me how do u calculate how much they use and how much we use? i don't see a problem for turning on the aircond at night when i sleep. the previous bill was 170, somewhere there, and this month was 290, increase of 120.

170 = 2 rooms usage.
290 = 3 rooms usage.

increase of 120 only and i have already pay for 100 bucks, isn't that reasonable?
shouldn't they are the one should move out instead of asking me to move out? since they dun wan to use the aircond, no they use but they claimed hardly use, seriously how true is it i won't know, in that case shouldn't they are the one to move out?

moreover, landlord asked to divide the bill equally, why should i pay more then?

i will do that if i can get the previous bills from the landlord but i don't think can convince them because they are stuck with their own logic.

not to be forgotten, electricity price just increased recently, no way i should bare the increase that set by government right?
we actually told him about that, but sadly they just can't process, so increase that set by government has got nothing to do with them...

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Added on September 20, 2011, 4:33 pmnot to be forgotten, electricity price just increased recently, no way i should bare the increase that set by government right?
we actually told him about that, but sadly they just can't process, so increase that set by government has got nothing to do with them...

This post has been edited by Nat0306: Sep 20 2011, 04:33 PM

their room is just opposite ours, i can confirm they did on the aircond but how often i'm not sure. if i know that they didn't on at all i will be reasonable and ask them to pay the least but the problem is they did use it but they claim they didn't use much..i dun want that kind of excuses unless they can show me how much they used. they don't like us to use so much they can tell us politely, we will listen and see if the next month bill reduces.

ur right!!!! they kiam until dun wan to subscribe their own internet, when we went to view the room, the bf was there, i told him i will transfer my streamyx account and we can share, previously we didn't share with any housemates. so he is more than happy to say yes, but we delayed a month to move in to the new place, he has been asking another tenant when only we move in, this can prove that they can't wait to use the internet. first day we move in, not even unpack our things he already ask for the internet password. another tenant subscribed p1 wimax previously but doesn't want to share with him and he is not willing to get one for him and his gf for just temporary...

so for revenge, once our unify done installation i'm not going to share with him..what comes around goes around..they want to be so calculative i can be like that also...i have learnt my lesson, some ppl just not deserve to be treated nicely...we even offer meals, we cook and invite them to eat..they say no no...i guess they are afraid we ask them to pay for the food...

that happened to my previous house, divide by 5. ended up every month we (both my bf and i) need to pay more than half of the total amount...every month bill Rm250-Rm350. their reason even more lame, they will go back to hometown during weekends (sometimes) then what they suggest is to calculate by days, how many days they not in, we have to pay for it....ended up every month i need to pay more than 100 bucks..no, a lump sum of 500 the least. what is unfair to us, the bf is not working, 24/7 at home, having 2 dogs inside the room which i assume his chiwawas need aircond to stay chill? truly tired and sick of it. thought can get a peaceful stay in the current house but still same old shit happened.

i don't see the logic there...reason:
- single room tenant 24/7 at home, he works outstation but seldom so most of the time at home with aircond on...i have no issue with him even though he uses the most as i'm using the aircond as well.
- my master room is not that really big as you think, merely bigger than middle room. i'm staying at Ken 3 condo, basic unit about 1000sf if not mistaken..some claims that master room bigger in size so consume more usage.
- asking middle room that kiamsiap couple to pay for rm120, they will just jump off from building i guess...their budget, below Rm50 per month.