then you can assume they use more also. it just that they are good in argument and you lost

Hi forumers,

I have no idea where else to post this except here..hope to seek for rational advises.

Here is the story...

I have just moved in a new condo unit and renting a master bedroom, together staying with my bf, a couple (renting the middle room)   and another tenant for the small room. all 3 rooms are equipped with aircond. 
before i confirm to rent the room, i have asked the house owner if all the bills are equally shared and the owner said yes, everything share equally so no argument.
but when we received the current month electricity bill, it costs almost RM300, which the previous months only about Rm150-Rm170 but no one is occupying the master room for previous months.

the problem is the couple who occupying the middle room   are not happy with the high utilities and claimed that my bf and i causes the hike of electricity usage. we only on the aircond at night as we are out for working during daytime.

so here is their reason for refusing to pay equal share of the bill.
- their aircond was not functioning for the past 2 weeks.
- we are staying in high floor so they feel cold most of the time therefore they didn't on the aircond.
- so at the end they only willing to pay the least and master room and the small room have to pay most of it because we use aircond frequently.
here's their calculation. RM300/4 - the couple in the middle room will pay for 1 portion, and the other 3 portions bared by me and the single tenant. 

btw, is that my problem that they don't want to use the aircond?
am i obligated to listen to their so-called reasons and pay more than what i'm supposed to? it was agreed that everything divides equally so am i the wrong one for not paying more than the divided amount?

i'm quite frustrated because it happened twice, the house i stayed previously and the current house. i don't understand why is it so hard to find nice housemates who are willing to talk nicely instead of yelling at ppl for those reasons which don't make any sense to me...

advise needed, am i the wrong one?

You pay for what u used is fair, dun expect other tenant to bear the costs due to ur usage. There will be different rate for low and high usage of electricity. Please check your bills. There is very high chance you are the main reason why the bills went up the hill. You must be fair to other tenant also. If you are not satisfy then move out or buy your own house.

You pay for what u used is fair, dun expect other tenant to bear the costs due to ur usage. There will be different rate for low and high usage of electricity. Please check your bills. There is very high chance you are the main reason why the bills went up the hill. You must be fair to other tenant also. If you are not satisfy then move out or buy your own house.

based on my previous formula, device a strategy.

y = current month bill amount
x = average of 3 previous months

every month, u pay y - x
this sounds convincing enough to ur stupid house-mate.
at the sane time, using this method, when u increase ur usage, or if any1 increase their usage, u actually pay less per gain.

then for now, assume that the fast 3 months r 170 each, as they claim.
then from now on, do ur own monthly record.

then for now, assume that the fast 3 months r 170 each, as they claim.
then from now on, do ur own monthly record.

i will do that if i can get the previous bills from the landlord but i don't think can convince them because they are stuck with their own logic.

His gf started shouting and then went to the room and cried... And continued shouting from the room.

And there we were trying to discuss and settle the problem amicably. But they remained stubborn.

so u live at what room? at master? middle or small? i kenot brain..  how many tenant at ur rent house rite now?

must b u torrent 24/7 wit heavily overclock pentium D pc paired wit 3 way SLI gtx480.

You are TS dupe??

i think that kind of people won't listen no matter how you explain to them. they will keep on arguing until you show them hard evidence. 

Why don't you check if they use aircon or not by looking at their aircond compressor outside

Please also note that our usage is not high at all as we only turn the a/c on at 12 midnight and we are already out of the house early in the morning.

We have been very fair with them. They don't do housework and we always end up doing it.

If i could afford a new house, then this problem would not exist in the first place. Neither is moving out an option as an agreement has been signed.

All we wanted was to sit down and discuss a solution amicably but it was not possible as his gf started shouting and crying.

We are not confrontational. After a long day at work, all we want is to go back and relax.

The one to blame is the landlord and the middle couple.
Ask the owner to come out and settle the dispute.and ask owner to write a official letter to inform all bout seperate electric bill. which is  equally devided.

put this into your argument
1 room empty + 2 room occupied = rm 150-170
3 room occupied =  300+-

it is normal from my point of view. before you go in is about 85 perperson.
after u move in it about 100 perperson.

reason might be
1: as one mention, the rate effect
2: streamyx( i assume they dint have internet before) they have more reason to use the electronic gadget. hence more power needed to charge /process.
but end of the day..if the agreement is equally paid, then they have nothing to argue about. it's up to them to use the aircon or not since they Agree to the agreement before move in.
Nothing much to argue cos the agreement stated how you all shud divide the bill, it just come to who decided to take advantage and who give way to prevent future arguement