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US stock discussion v4, Bulls-Bears HUAT AH!! Pigs get slaughter
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 Oct 28 2011, 08:27 AM
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Ouch stop loss trigger on my short
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Oct 28 2011, 09:21 AM
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QUOTE(danmooncake @ Oct 28 2011, 04:32 AM) Well, there where two major crashes when I was in market. I've survived the dot com bust in 00/01 and housing bubble crash in 08/09. My concern is if the broker closes down/bankrupt, will you lose your money?My portfolio took quite a beating in 00/01 but in 08/09, I rode the bear and bulls later when it recovers. Everything came back more than double. So, no fear.   |
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Oct 28 2011, 09:47 AM
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QUOTE(orangutan @ Oct 28 2011, 09:21 AM) My concern is if the broker closes down/bankrupt, will you lose your money? That is what SIPC is for.. if the broker bankrupt, you're guarantee for all the shares (amt not worth) that you've bought.Added on October 28, 2011, 9:48 am QUOTE(Myoswee @ Oct 28 2011, 08:27 AM) Ouch stop loss trigger on my short Better be safe..exit, wait for another opportunity.Bulls now are strong.  Added on October 28, 2011, 9:50 amAfter hours, LVS reported its 3Q earnings. 0.55c vs 0.52c estimates (beat by 3c) 2.41bln vs 2.34bln (beat by 0.07bln)  Market likes this!! We're going back up! Honglun: if you're still holding this.. watch for that $50 mark again. Don't miss this time to take profits. I'm on my 3rd rotation now for LVS. Going to ride 'em all the way. This post has been edited by danmooncake: Oct 28 2011, 09:50 AM |
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Oct 28 2011, 09:56 AM
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QUOTE(danmooncake @ Oct 28 2011, 09:47 AM) That is what SIPC is for.. if the broker bankrupt, you're guarantee for all the shares (amt not worth) that you've bought. Thanks dmc! I'll go read up SIPC. |
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Oct 28 2011, 10:15 AM
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QUOTE(danmooncake @ Oct 28 2011, 09:47 AM) Added on October 28, 2011, 9:50 amAfter hours, LVS reported its 3Q earnings. 0.55c vs 0.52c estimates (beat by 3c) 2.41bln vs 2.34bln (beat by 0.07bln) Market likes this!! We're going back up! Honglun: if you're still holding this.. watch for that $50 mark again. Don't miss this time to take profits. I'm on my 3rd rotation now for LVS. Going to ride 'em all the way. but that is historic... |
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Oct 28 2011, 10:17 AM
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AIYO!! told u all liao mah, FUG THE BEAR until it moans to be a bull, but some stil takut & wan to hold cash  Requote "look at the bull bear ratio, 41% investment advisors is bearish, hav to goreng them kao kao, as they bring followers to holland" http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/1678458/+120 Post #140if any major bears learnt a lesson from tis, then its goodie, no point fighting the trend, its best to just follow trend  the time to short, is when the bull bear ratio terbalik. now await, those investment advisors to be bullish & they lead their followers to the slaughter house one more time ie. buy high & hold the bag (IIVC members experience it a few mths ago, no need to explain in words, just check bank ac)  of coz there will be minor fluctuation here & there, there may be some minor pullback  but overall, chart showing up. take away your emotions, no need read the news, just look at the charts and volume. all you see is support & resistance  » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «
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there is no timeframe, just ride it till until the TA signals is ABOUT to trigger |
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Oct 28 2011, 10:20 AM
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QUOTE(sulifeisgreat @ Oct 28 2011, 10:17 AM) AIYO!! Suddenly the OUTLOOK looks superb.. Nah, I will buy in when market start to goes down. told u all liao mah, FUG THE BEAR until it moans to be a bull, but some stil takut & wan to hold cash Requote "look at the bull bear ratio, 41% investment advisors is bearish, hav to goreng them kao kao, as they bring followers to holland" http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/1678458/+120 Post #140if any major bears learnt a lesson from tis, then its goodie, no point fighting the trend, its best to just follow trend the time to short, is when the bull bear ratio terbalik. now await, those investment advisors to be bullish & they lead their followers to the slaughter house one more time ie. buy high & hold the bag |
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Oct 28 2011, 10:50 AM
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QUOTE(sulifeisgreat @ Oct 28 2011, 10:17 AM) AIYO!! Been fugging the bear since u mentioned it back in 1300 told u all liao mah, FUG THE BEAR until it moans to be a bull, but some stil takut & wan to hold cash Requote "look at the bull bear ratio, 41% investment advisors is bearish, hav to goreng them kao kao, as they bring followers to holland" http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/1678458/+120 Post #140if any major bears learnt a lesson from tis, then its goodie, no point fighting the trend, its best to just follow trend the time to short, is when the bull bear ratio terbalik. now await, those investment advisors to be bullish & they lead their followers to the slaughter house one more time ie. buy high & hold the bag (IIVC members experience it a few mths ago, no need to explain in words, just check bank ac) of coz there will be minor fluctuation here & there, there may be some minor pullback but overall, chart showing up. take away your emotions, no need read the news, just look at the charts and volume. all you see is support & resistance  |
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Oct 28 2011, 12:10 PM
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it was great! the bear moan & moan since 1300, "I wanna be a bull", we went high together to 1480  indeed it was a great FUG. It was unprotected fugging all the way and took a medium risk playing call options no balls to play high risk ie. futures I m looking to gamble on some shorts/ puts option, taking a look over the weekend, due to the sudden dog jones spike "not uncommon for stocks to suddenly spike up in a straight shot with heavy volume and then stop, roll at the top, exhausted..." only for traders and those using TA  http://books.google.com.my/books?id=6eyy4P...epage&q&f=false QUOTE(simonc @ Oct 28 2011, 10:50 AM) Been fugging the bear since u mentioned it back in 1300 AIYO! which bunker u were hiding in? u miss out on all the fun & 'money cannot buy' experience outlook remains superb since 26 sep 2011 but some of u wanna short further & cash out for global recession? http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/2042861/+60 Post #61 http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/2042861/+120 Post #137 salute the IIVC members as they brave the onslaught and pick up valuable experience instead of hiding QUOTE(zamans98 @ Oct 28 2011, 10:20 AM) Suddenly the OUTLOOK looks superb.. Nah, I will buy in when market start to goes down. |
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Oct 28 2011, 12:14 PM
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People could look year long but still talking. Talking is cheap and free. |
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Oct 28 2011, 12:29 PM
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QUOTE(SKY 1809 @ Oct 28 2011, 12:14 PM) People could look year long but still talking. So when you're starting your US trade?Talking is cheap and free. You've been talking here for quite some time |
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Oct 28 2011, 01:19 PM
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Myoswee, u gonna do shorting now? target about to reach, as indices gonna encounter resistance level soon
AIYO sky1809! I trading la! as I am trader using TA, what talk talk I give selection and links, to show no backhand when u wanna join warren buffet & cum to usa market? we wait u so long, until got janggut liao  u mus hav made lots of moolah from klse, so should be no problem upgrading to USA then u can short instead of hiding in bunker, come & join the fun QUOTE(SKY 1809 @ Oct 28 2011, 12:14 PM) People could look year long but still talking. Talking is cheap and free. |
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Oct 28 2011, 01:51 PM
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QUOTE(Myoswee @ Oct 28 2011, 12:29 PM) So when you're starting your US trade? Ya, you are right.You've been talking here for quite some time US market is so big , but I always see only 1 investor in this forum. And having a weak heart, I chicken out. Apology for that.  This post has been edited by SKY 1809: Oct 28 2011, 01:51 PM |
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Oct 28 2011, 02:03 PM
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QUOTE(sulifeisgreat @ Oct 28 2011, 10:17 AM) of coz there will be minor fluctuation here & there, there may be some minor pullback i hv read couple of your replies and you did give many sounds advices backed by numbers, mind to share on where to start on proper chart analysis? a.k.a technical analysis? from scratch...really want a put some effort on this rather than just banking on sentiments. Any recommendation but overall, chart showing up. take away your emotions, no need read the news, just look at the charts and volume. all you see is support & resistance  ?other sifu, need you feedback as well . This post has been edited by countdown: Oct 28 2011, 02:35 PM |
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Oct 28 2011, 02:11 PM
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QUOTE(sulifeisgreat @ Oct 28 2011, 12:10 PM) it was great! the bear moan & moan since 1300, "I wanna be a bull", we went high together to 1480 indeed it was a great FUG. It was unprotected fugging all the way and took a medium risk playing call options no balls to play high risk ie. futures Now hide in the bunker. Out of 5 LONG position prior to crash, only 1 recovered, AMD Others like SLV, AGQ and GLD are quite near to entry price. One dead stock is SPRINT (S) |
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Oct 28 2011, 02:28 PM
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its a continous learning process, I hav to credit William Wermine for starting my journey
if can understand Jesse Livermore strategies, this make sense http://www.williamoneil.com/  background http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_O%27Neil great for traders http://www.investopedia.com/university/gre...p#axzz1c3T2cUep QUOTE(countdown @ Oct 28 2011, 02:03 PM) i hv read couple of your replies and you did give many sounds advices backed by numbers, mind to share on where to start on proper chart analysis? a.k.a technical analysis? from scratch...really want a put some effort on this rather than just banking on sentiments. Any recommendation as a forumer mention, we only see 1 investor in this forum. need to see what is his opinion, to settle below 5 issues ?QUOTE(zamans98 @ Oct 28 2011, 02:11 PM) Got, balls shaking with AAPL call options. One fine day when GREED overcame my emotion, the WINNING portfolio is now bleeding hard. sky1809, auto-cruise riding means auto cruise riding, exit and go to cash means exit and go to cash Now hide in the bunker. Out of 5 LONG position prior to crash, only 1 recovered, AMD Others like SLV, AGQ and GLD are quite near to entry price. One dead stock is SPRINT (S) the market is always there. its just like standing by the beach, waiting for the waves to touch your feet this is called trading, no need to run deep into sea water for more water or climb coconut tree for less water  u can alwiz drop by 'property talk' section, no point putting all klse moolah profits all into reits the returns, rental and refinancing capabilities of owning props, outweigh the benefits of overinvesting into reits This post has been edited by sulifeisgreat: Oct 28 2011, 02:38 PM |
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Oct 28 2011, 09:08 PM
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QUOTE(zamans98 @ Oct 28 2011, 02:11 PM) Got, balls shaking with AAPL call options. One fine day when GREED overcame my emotion, the WINNING portfolio is now bleeding hard. Z: Don't worry.. the market is always here.Now hide in the bunker. Out of 5 LONG position prior to crash, only 1 recovered, AMD Others like SLV, AGQ and GLD are quite near to entry price. One dead stock is SPRINT (S) I always have a exit strategy. I won't tolerate more than 15%~20% loss. If more than that, it means I'm wrong, better exit and play again with remaining capital. When playing with options, one really need to be extra careful because they're not stocks. Time can kill 'em. Use them as hedging tool or amplifying tool when you've confidence. Just bail when something ain't right. Always can come back another day. Looking back: Sept: Best time to play bear Oct: Best time to play bull (although I have been cautiously long only till SP 1220 only). These two months, I've made more than last 6-8 months in earlier part of the year because of the volatility. The bulls have earnings season to help them.. so, afaik, it is going to wind down in about two weeks. Looking forward: Now that the EU crisis is temporarily over, time to take a look at the banks. The bulls will take 'em higher. If financials rally, everything will rise.. commodities, etc.. Good luck to all, may we all continue to make money. This post has been edited by danmooncake: Oct 28 2011, 09:10 PM |
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Oct 28 2011, 10:20 PM
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Oct 28 2011, 10:27 PM
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bro DMC...what is the recommended price to let go of my LVS?
it is shooting up like nobody business now lol....so happy ^^ |
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Oct 29 2011, 01:11 AM
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QUOTE(jerrychoo2004 @ Oct 28 2011, 10:27 PM) bro DMC...what is the recommended price to let go of my LVS? When to sell is really a tough call. For me, I have always take some profits and let some of them ride up till my trailing stops hit, then buy back again when it dives.it is shooting up like nobody business now lol....so happy ^^ For LVS, I'm still holding on my 1K long shares (now averaging $30) and selling cover calls every other week to lower down my cost. Also, scalping calls/puts when within this range: 36-44-50 area. There are quite a bit of supply to soak up at around $50-$52 (resistance). Looking over its earnings.. I think this time LVS could break that $50-$52 barrier if the general market wants to reclaim that May high spot before year end. Q3 earnings been good for LVS. Q4 could be even better because of the holidays in China. The slowdown in China were major concerns but they still gamble like nobody business. Singapore MBS rolled in record profits. Pretty astounding so far.. no recession fear in Singapore. I hope LVS can go to $80 in the future, so I may buy myself a brand new car or pay off my house. This post has been edited by danmooncake: Oct 29 2011, 01:13 AM |
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