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 Samsung Galaxy Tab 10.1 LYN Official Users Club v2, For Future & Current Users Of P7510/00

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post Jan 16 2012, 10:13 AM

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QUOTE(benny888 @ Jan 16 2012, 10:05 AM)
Impressive - I have just email the Msian distributor and request resellers and pricing
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Thanks benny, do update us if u have any news on this . notworthy.gif

EDIT : Looks like not all GTab 10.1 support Atmel MaxStylus, at least not the earlier batch. Just found out that the stylus only support maXTouch E Series chip, n Samsung 're not using this chips when it 1st came out. sad.gif

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Samsung has selected the Atmel maXTouchâ„¢ mXT1386 touchscreen controller to power its flagship Galaxy Tab 10.1.

http://ir.atmel.com/releasedetail.cfm?ReleaseID=584398


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Samsung devices to be powered by Atmel's maXTouch E Series, including the: Ultra-Slim Galaxy Tab 10.1, Galaxy Note, Galaxy Tab 7.7 and Samsung Galaxy S.

http://www.atmel.com/dyn/corporate/view_de...EC_NAME=Product




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QUOTE(mtxx @ Jan 16 2012, 09:31 AM)
been using this tab for 2 days.
been heavily exploring the features.

man....i got to say i'm very dissapointed.

overall the tab is very laggy. i'm on the original 3.1 firmware.
scrolling through home screen is laggy, especially if you put these big widgets. a noticable example is the calander and the scrollable widget.

removing the widgets ensures smooth scrolling. but i was wondering why implement those widgets it they cause scrolling homescreen to be laggy.

and why the heck i cant reduce the number of home screen?
need to search for 3rd party launcher haiz...

most of the apps appear pixaleted,
the android market is soooo laggy.

there is NO folder support. this really confuse me, there is a paid alternative for it. which sucks, this should be free.

the middle part has a down arrow, which launches the totally USELESS samsung customize thing. always accidentally press it, especially when playing fruit ninja.

the screen rotation is slow. maybe due to it has to resize all the items on the home screen.

browser feels abit jagged. not that smooth, but at least it load pages faster than sgs2

default browser default agent is mobile, which is stupid since the screen is laptop resolution.

the recently used button is kidda redundant, even if i want to use it, its very slow to appear, always a noticable lag.

i already rooted, and freeze all the rubbish apps like hubgs, weather widget etc, but still quite slow.

the most used feature, which is the browser, forced closed about 10 times a day. opening 4-5 tabs with some of them being youtube video is too much for it to handle? and there is no "reopen all tabs" feature, sucks when it force close. :-(

i seriously feel my sgs2 is faster in every way.
playing "where's my water" on tab, the graphic is the lowest possible, the water flow like real water in my sgs2 and my friends's ipad, but on tab10.1, the water like blocks of water drops. haiz....

i have such high hopes for this android tab. but the performance is really bad. tegra 2 dual core is really slow, even sgs2 underclock to 1GHz is much faster. :-(

soo...soo...dissapointed in this tab. :-(
well, still 2 days usage, hopefully able to make it faster, or maybe i'm missing something.
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typical example of users who dunno how to use his tab.. give it some time, learn how to use.. my tab never experience any of the things u mentioned after customization.. it's the software problem, not hardware (mostly).. try 3.2 on it, u will take back what u have said..

anyway, sgs2 hardware is better than tab, running at a lower resolution..
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QUOTE(farscope @ Jan 16 2012, 11:39 AM)
typical example of users who dunno how to use his tab.. give it some time, learn how to use.. my tab never experience any of the things u mentioned after customization.. it's the software problem, not hardware (mostly).. try 3.2 on it, u will take back what u have said..

anyway, sgs2 hardware is better than tab, running at a lower resolution..
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I bet that guy is trolling..
New member, suddenly post his frustration..
A real owner would probably come in here and ask for real advise..

I myself use stock 3.1 now, and homescreen is as smooth as those custom rom from xda..


Added on January 16, 2012, 1:21 pm
QUOTE(mtxx @ Jan 16 2012, 09:31 AM)
been using this tab for 2 days.
been heavily exploring the features.

man....i got to say i'm very dissapointed.

overall the tab is very laggy. i'm on the original 3.1 firmware.
scrolling through home screen is laggy, especially if you put these big widgets. a noticable example is the calander and the scrollable widget.

removing the widgets ensures smooth scrolling. but i was wondering why implement those widgets it they cause scrolling homescreen to be laggy.

and why the heck i cant reduce the number of home screen?
need to search for 3rd party launcher haiz...

most of the apps appear pixaleted,
the android market is soooo laggy.

there is NO folder support. this really confuse me, there is a paid alternative for it. which sucks, this should be free.

the middle part has a down arrow, which launches the totally USELESS samsung customize thing. always accidentally press it, especially when playing fruit ninja.

the screen rotation is slow. maybe due to it has to resize all the items on the home screen.

browser feels abit jagged. not that smooth, but at least it load pages faster than sgs2

default browser default agent is mobile, which is stupid since the screen is laptop resolution.

the recently used button is kidda redundant, even if i want to use it, its very slow to appear, always a noticable lag.

i already rooted, and freeze all the rubbish apps like hubgs, weather widget etc, but still quite slow.

the most used feature, which is the browser, forced closed about 10 times a day. opening 4-5 tabs with some of them being youtube video is too much for it to handle? and there is no "reopen all tabs" feature, sucks when it force close. :-(

i seriously feel my sgs2 is faster in every way.
playing "where's my water" on tab, the graphic is the lowest possible, the water flow like real water in my sgs2 and my friends's ipad, but on tab10.1, the water like blocks of water drops. haiz....

i have such high hopes for this android tab. but the performance is really bad. tegra 2 dual core is really slow, even sgs2 underclock to 1GHz is much faster. :-(

soo...soo...dissapointed in this tab. :-(
well, still 2 days usage, hopefully able to make it faster, or maybe i'm missing something.
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Yes, u are missing someting.. Ur brain

The only person u shud be frustrated with is urself for not knowing how to solve those issues u seem to be having, where else other people dont..
For eg.. Browser desktop agent.. Use dolphin la...
fruit ninja, that shows how poor your skill is..why on earth u slash the bottom of the screen when the fruits are flying in the middle?
Wheres my water runs smooth on my stock tab.. No issues.. Same goes to sprinkle which has better fluid movement..
Folder support? Its comin with ICS... But there are other options - try circle launcher.. Its free...


This post has been edited by abundai: Jan 16 2012, 01:21 PM
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QUOTE(abundai @ Jan 16 2012, 01:03 PM)
I bet that guy is trolling..
New member, suddenly post his frustration..
A real owner would probably come in here and ask for real advise..

I myself use stock 3.1 now, and homescreen is as smooth as those custom rom from xda..


Added on January 16, 2012, 1:21 pm

Yes, u are missing someting.. Ur brain

The only person u shud be frustrated with is urself for not knowing how to solve those issues u seem to be having, where else other people dont..
For eg.. Browser desktop agent.. Use dolphin la...
fruit ninja, that shows how poor your skill is..why on earth u slash the bottom of the screen when the fruits are flying in the middle?
Wheres my water runs smooth on my stock tab.. No issues.. Same goes to sprinkle which has better fluid movement..
Folder support? Its comin with ICS... But there are other options - try circle launcher.. Its free...
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"typical example of users who dunno how to use his tab"

gee guys, i did mention i'm a newbie, just use it for few days (whacha expect? lol...) and in the last paragraph, i mention i hope to improve it (meaning i am looking for alternatives, or solutions).

when i first bought the sgs2, i was confuse with it as well. but after few weeks, very satisfied as most of the "issues& dissatisfactions" are resolved.

I am not here to troll. but spending rm1499, i kindda hope it would be a near perfect experience.
anway, i like android, and dont mind spending time reading how to customize it to my liking (kindda like a hobby)

i prefer stock browser, it automatically sync with google chrome. dolphin hd looks silly on the tab (i installed the mobile version yesterday >< silly me)
i just found there is a tab version of dolphin, will try it out later.

fruit ninja, my high score is 1088 (so i think i'm consider not a noob in this game), to get higher score, you need to strike the fruits in >3 at a time to get combo.
sometimes the fruits are in line vertically, so i have to swipe top to bottom vertically. this cause the silly touchwidz thing to appear if i accidentally touch the arrow, and i miss miss my fruit. *annoying.

where my water runs smooth, no lag, but the water animation are in droplets form. very ugly.
hm...i'll get a screenshot for you to see later tonight. you'll get what i mean later.
i read about chain fire, suppose to improve graphics, not sure can apply or not.

folder support, i google about this this morning, was thinking maybe go launcher can solve this, will try tonight. my tab is at home now.

sorry bout previous post, really not meant to be trolling, just expressing frustration.
sucks that my girl friend tease me her ipad is much smoother than my tab, both same price >< haiz...

anyway, already bought it, will make the best out of it. still prefer the tab than ipad.
despite the lack of games, the browser is more user friendly, i can easily transfer songs, pictures and movie to watch on it.

:-) cheers
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Question, looking to buy one of those USB OTG connectors, I've heard there's some thumbdrives which don't work with them, any idea which ones can/cannot? Also what's a good price for non-Samsung connector (only see 1 thread selling currently in trade zone).
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@mtxx,
Cool then.. your first post looks very similar to how a troll would post in android forum... So forgive me if i was wrong.. Stay in this forum, and im sure u can solve most if not all of the hiccups ur getting from your brand spanking new gtab..

Im curious bout pixelated water on the game 'wheres my water' too.. Heres mine.. If thats hat u call pixelated, then maybe the game werent designed for a 10.1 display.. But they seems to be quite ok for me..
But if u want some thing that is designed for tegra2, try looking for games that has THD or HD..
Also download nvidia tegra zone from market.. U'll get the idea..

One good example of a tegra2 games is samurai vengeance II thd... The graphics are even better then iOS, claimed by the developer themselves... Also try sprinkle.. Fluid movement is as fluid as it can be..

Btw, ipad from my point pf view are just cosmetic.. UI looks smooth, yes..no doubt.. Some people like dat..
But try to look behind those smooth ui, u'll see the ugly truth.. Just like those pretty ladies smile.gif who relies on makeup to look good..

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Added on January 16, 2012, 3:10 pm
QUOTE(LostAndFound @ Jan 16 2012, 02:42 PM)
Question, looking to buy one of those USB OTG connectors, I've heard there's some thumbdrives which don't work with them, any idea which ones can/cannot? Also what's a good price for non-Samsung connector (only see 1 thread selling currently in trade zone).
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Maybe the problematic usb is those that are bigger than 32gb..cos thats the max it can handle..
So far mine works just fine..

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found a nice free app to do wifi file transfer etc -

File Expert
Powerful File Manager/WIFI File Transfer Web & FTP/App Manager - ALL in ONE


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Try test with other audio or sotware or try with earbuds n see..


I tried using winamp ... still same problem... with earbuds it's OK...both sides are working....

I couldn't tell for sure whether the speaker was faulty from the start or not... because I didn't try the audio when I bought it (yes, very dumb doh.gif I know) ... and all this while I never pay any attention to the speaker bcoz most of the time I'm on earphone...

but vaguely I can tell that the sound have always been that way (I'm very lousy owner aren't I...haha)...

So should I just take this back to Samsung center and have them look at it? How long do you think they would take to fix this problem.....

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QUOTE(Aqis @ Jan 16 2012, 08:06 PM)
I tried using winamp ... still same problem...  with earbuds it's OK...both sides are working....

I couldn't tell for sure whether the speaker was faulty from the start or not... because I didn't try the audio when I bought it (yes, very dumb  doh.gif  I know) ... and all this while I never pay any attention to the speaker bcoz most of the time I'm on earphone... 

but vaguely I can tell that the sound have always been that way (I'm very lousy owner aren't I...haha)...

So should I just take this back to Samsung center and have them look at it? How long do you think they would take to fix this problem.....

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in this case, then u might have to send it back.. duration is very subjective to.. depends on their on-hand unit number..
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QUOTE(Aqis @ Jan 15 2012, 06:11 PM)
Hi I'm having problem with the speaker...the right one is not working....the left one is ok.... is it the setting...the song...or the speaker is faulty....just bought this thing less than a month...please helppp
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My tab do hav a slight cracking sound on the left speaker.. Barely noticeable.. Need to put it to low volume and place my ear next to it..
Asked samsung repair centre, they say will take minimum of 1week to replace a speaker..
Since the problem is not major, i decide not to send it for repair yet.. May be a month before my warranty expire, i'll send it in..
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QUOTE(mtxx @ Jan 16 2012, 02:29 PM)
"typical example of users who dunno how to use his tab"

gee guys, i did mention i'm a newbie, just use it for few days (whacha expect? lol...) and in the last paragraph, i mention i hope to improve it (meaning i am looking for alternatives, or solutions).

when i first bought the sgs2, i was confuse with it as well. but after few weeks, very satisfied as most of the "issues& dissatisfactions" are resolved.

I am not here to troll. but spending rm1499, i kindda hope it would be a near perfect experience.
anway, i like android, and dont mind spending time reading how to customize it to my liking (kindda like a hobby)

i prefer stock browser, it automatically sync with google chrome. dolphin hd looks silly on the tab (i installed the mobile version yesterday >< silly me)
i just found there is a tab version of dolphin, will try it out later.

fruit ninja, my high score is 1088 (so i think i'm consider not a noob in this game), to get higher score, you need to strike the fruits in >3 at a time to get combo.
sometimes the fruits are in line vertically, so i have to swipe top to bottom vertically. this cause the silly touchwidz thing to appear if i accidentally touch the arrow, and i miss miss my fruit. *annoying.

where my water runs smooth, no lag, but the water animation are in droplets form. very ugly.
hm...i'll get a screenshot for you to see later tonight. you'll get what i mean later.
i read about chain fire, suppose to improve graphics, not sure can apply or not.

folder support, i google about this this morning, was thinking maybe go launcher can solve this, will try tonight. my tab is at home now.

sorry bout previous post, really not meant to be trolling, just expressing frustration.
sucks that my girl friend tease me her ipad is much smoother than my tab, both same price >< haiz...

anyway, already bought it, will make the best out of it. still prefer the tab than ipad.
despite the lack of games, the browser is more user friendly, i can easily transfer songs, pictures and movie to watch on it.

:-) cheers
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If ur gf troll u on smooth, why not u troll back her in java web.
Last week i went out with my fren discuss on new phone package.
Guess what my fren ipad cant even surf celcom and many other cos of java.
Wan surf genting for booking also fail.
U pay rm1499 for ipad but cant even surf properly on stock browse!!
Is that suck? laugh.gif
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QUOTE(mtxx @ Jan 16 2012, 02:29 PM)
"typical example of users who dunno how to use his tab"

gee guys, i did mention i'm a newbie, just use it for few days (whacha expect? lol...) and in the last paragraph, i mention i hope to improve it (meaning i am looking for alternatives, or solutions).

when i first bought the sgs2, i was confuse with it as well. but after few weeks, very satisfied as most of the "issues& dissatisfactions" are resolved.

I am not here to troll. but spending rm1499, i kindda hope it would be a near perfect experience.
anway, i like android, and dont mind spending time reading how to customize it to my liking (kindda like a hobby)

i prefer stock browser, it automatically sync with google chrome. dolphin hd looks silly on the tab (i installed the mobile version yesterday >< silly me)
i just found there is a tab version of dolphin, will try it out later.

fruit ninja, my high score is 1088 (so i think i'm consider not a noob in this game), to get higher score, you need to strike the fruits in >3 at a time to get combo.
sometimes the fruits are in line vertically, so i have to swipe top to bottom vertically. this cause the silly touchwidz thing to appear if i accidentally touch the arrow, and i miss miss my fruit. *annoying.

where my water runs smooth, no lag, but the water animation are in droplets form. very ugly.
hm...i'll get a screenshot for you to see later tonight. you'll get what i mean later.
i read about chain fire, suppose to improve graphics, not sure can apply or not.

folder support, i google about this this morning, was thinking maybe go launcher can solve this, will try tonight. my tab is at home now.

sorry bout previous post, really not meant to be trolling, just expressing frustration.
sucks that my girl friend tease me her ipad is much smoother than my tab, both same price >< haiz...

anyway, already bought it, will make the best out of it. still prefer the tab than ipad.
despite the lack of games, the browser is more user friendly, i can easily transfer songs, pictures and movie to watch on it.

:-) cheers
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juz install custom ROM on it and laugh yr gf back.. yr fruit junk is a piece of junk that is only good for games.. seriously, all yr issue will be solved.. including fruit ninja.. cz in overcome, u need to tap to open the mini apps, instead of swiping up, which saves alot of accidental opened mini apps.
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@mtxx..

So where's the screenshot? Am very eager to see that pixel issues u were talking bout..
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QUOTE(abundai @ Jan 17 2012, 12:56 AM)
@mtxx..

So where's the screenshot? Am very eager to see that pixel issues u were talking bout..
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Hi, so so soooo sorry, i was too distracted in playing my tab yesterday i forgot about it. i've already did the screen shot last night, just that i cant upload it. its very difficult to do it in the tab. i usually use imgur to upload photo. now i'm on my lappy. i get it done asap :-p


Added on January 17, 2012, 7:37 am
QUOTE(mtxx @ Jan 17 2012, 07:31 AM)
Hi, so so soooo sorry, i was too distracted in playing my tab yesterday i forgot about it. i've already did the screen shot last night, just that i cant upload it. its very difficult to do it in the tab. i usually use imgur to upload photo. now i'm on my lappy. i get it done asap :-p
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The pictures are in such order. SGT on top, then sgs2 at the bottom. i guess you can tell by the size of the screen shot anyway.

i notice 3 things:
1. Water in sgt is not transparent, while in sgs2 is looks like real water, semi transparent
2. water flow in sgs2 is smooth, less "droplets" (look at last picture for the most OBVIOUS effect)
3. Over all, sgt lags alot in this game, takes twice the time to load. ><

The graphic reduction is not a big deal, the bigger deal will be the lag.
the game is just much slower than sgs2. i'll just complete this game on my sgs2, i'm still in the 3rd set of levels. :-p

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Added on January 17, 2012, 7:39 amoh ya, by the way, dun accuse me this app is pirated. i got it from amazon market. free app of the day thing. so its definately legit. :-D

gotta love amazon market!

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Seems to me that GTab needs to have a THD version of the game released for it.

Sprinkle was working really fine on my GTab though, with semi transparent water and all. Smooth too. Though in SGS2's defence, Mali 400 GPU is of better performance than Tegra2 actually.
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well well, some games are not made to play in HD, hence u will see pixelation..

if u download HD or THD games to play, especially those for Tegra 2, I'm sure u will love playing games on tab.

Try Shadowgun or Samurai 2.. U will see the difference.
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QUOTE(farscope @ Jan 17 2012, 08:40 AM)
@mtxx

well well, some games are not made to play in HD, hence u will see pixelation..

if u download HD or THD games to play, especially those for Tegra 2, I'm sure u will love playing games on tab.

Try Shadowgun or Samurai 2.. U will see the difference.
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Hi :-) this game is not pixelated. the image is nice and clear (look at swampy, he looks good and sharp), just the water flow animation not that good. guess its cos the GPU not good enough. (sorry i keep comparing with sgs2, its my first android device)

when playing where's my water on sgs2, the phone gets warm and batter drains very fast, i think lots of computation is required for the water flow.


i've downloaded the app called "tablet market" it just link to the normal android market.
but it does ensure that the listed app are tablet friendly.

may i know where can i download tablet or tegra specific apps?
currently searching for a good launcher app, and a nice keyboard app.

currently using Go launcher, but it kindda have a bug, sometimes, when press home button from the browser or games, i return to a blank and black home screen with nothing. and it takes about 10 seconds to load back my wallpaper, icons etc. weird, but waaaayy annoying. wonder if this is consider force close, and the launcher is restarting. i already set it to be system persistant, and prevent force close, but still like that.

thumb keyboard is nice, but lags when i type with two hands, words struggle to appear same speed as my typing.

lol...day 3 with my first tablet, still have the exciting feel ^^
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since u noe how to root, then i assume installing custom rom will not be a problem for u.. juz install custom rom on it u will yr tab starts to fly without any launcher.. refer my previous comments on the link for it.

games and apps u can always download from android market.. there's once section call "staff picks for tablets" but i seldom refer to that..

juz read around, read comments and reviews about games n stuff, then find your way to download.

it takes time to make yr tab usable, but once u have finish setting everything, u will never look back to use the fruit sanitary pad anymore.. cz the tab pawns it in everything..

remember, there's nth u cannot do with android.. LOL..
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QUOTE(farscope @ Jan 17 2012, 09:26 AM)


juz read around, read comments and reviews about games n stuff, then find your way to download.

it takes time to make yr tab usable, but once u have finish setting everything, u will never look back to use the fruit sanitary pad anymore.. cz the tab pawns it in everything..

remember, there's nth u cannot do with android.. LOL..
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@ mtxx
yeah, farscope is so tru..thers a lot of things that an IPAd cannot do.. its not a fair comparison with android...so dont let ur gf think otherwise...

For other tips, use adw launcher..that s the best 3rd party launcher for tab. Actually, i never heard of anyone using GO as a launcher on tab, is it really compatible? For me, i just use stock touchwic launcher.. it handles the job good enuf
I dont like widget..so my homescreen are quite simple..

Stock keyboard can be slow somtimes, specially typing somtin in web browser mode..
i suggest u use GO keyboard, u'll see a lot of improvement..

For games, dload nvidia tegra zones ffom market, Ull get the list of games designed for gtab...

Or u can try world of goo, jelly defense, spiders, Spirit hd..graphics wise are great

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