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cheezzzz
post May 28 2012, 12:06 AM

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hey Job2go, me and fren are interesting in working in Australia. Both of us just graduate from malaysia uni. I am interesting to finding telecommunication based jobs and my fren here are interesting in finding water & waste water management based job. both of us hold engineering degrees from Universiti Tenaga Nasional. u got any website that we can refer? do inform us ya if u got any offers for us. thanks ya biggrin.gif
really appreciate it. we both want to try out some luck and new experience. hehe
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well i hate to burst your bubble but as long as we are not graduate from Deakin(KDU), Nottingham, UM, MARA, Sunway, Monash, Curtin, Swinburne - we are not in the list of recognised uni.

u ought to have a visa first and for fresh grad the cheapest is 476 visa. one of the requirement is that you graduate from one of the uni in the list. i graduate from utar in oct later this year. am already searching for a way to go aus.. and it has been rough so far haha!

all the best, not easy but I believe not tough either. you don't HAVE TO HAVE a visa, but without being a visa and without residing in aus while u apply for the job, your chances reduce by 90% in a way.. bcuz they will just say they cannot proceed further with your application as you do not live/work here.
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post May 28 2012, 12:16 AM

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QUOTE(cheezzzz @ May 28 2012, 12:06 AM)
well i hate to burst your bubble but as long as we are not graduate from Deakin(KDU), Nottingham, UM, MARA, Sunway, Monash, Curtin, Swinburne - we are not in the list of recognised uni.

u ought to have a visa first and for fresh grad the cheapest is 476 visa. one of the requirement is that you graduate from one of the uni in the list. i graduate from utar in oct later this year. am already searching for a way to go aus.. and it has been rough so far haha!

all the best, not easy but I believe not tough either. you don't HAVE TO HAVE a visa, but without being a visa and without residing in aus while u apply for the job, your chances reduce by 90% in a way.. bcuz they will just say they cannot proceed further with your application as you do not live/work here.
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wow. that being tough for not being one of the recognised uni. even apply visa is a problem then. which means there are no other way for us fresh grad to apply to work there? what are the options that u had try?


Added on May 28, 2012, 2:24 pmi just now check the visa wizard in the australia immigration website. the only way is either ur uni is recognised or your employer is willing to sponsor u visa. if not, no way u can get ur own visa.
any other sifu can help here?

This post has been edited by stockerzzz: May 28 2012, 02:24 PM
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post May 28 2012, 03:21 PM

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Is chef job still big demand in Australia?
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post May 28 2012, 04:17 PM

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Is chef job still big demand in Australia?
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Just look in the DIMIA website all the info is there
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post May 28 2012, 04:25 PM

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Just look in the DIMIA website all the info is there
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post May 28 2012, 04:37 PM

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QUOTE(stockerzzz @ May 28 2012, 12:16 AM)
wow. that being tough for not being one of the recognised uni. even apply visa is a problem then. which means there are no other way for us fresh grad to apply to work there? what are the options that u had try?


Added on May 28, 2012, 2:24 pmi just now check the visa wizard in the australia immigration website. the only way is either ur uni is recognised or your employer is willing to sponsor u visa. if not, no way u can get ur own visa.
any other sifu can help here?
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exactly. thats ridiculous especially when they are in demand of engineers. I applied to many of their jobs and two got back to me with a generic reply (which i thought was an honest reply but then found out it was a template)

also wanna know if working in NZ will make it easier to get into aus..

oh actually u can get ur own visa, if you pass the 65 points. thats under their general skilled migration visa. i remember i had only 60 lol. lack of 5 more. and if that doesnt kill you, the fees should. about 1k AUD to apply I think.
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post May 28 2012, 04:40 PM

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QUOTE(cheezzzz @ May 28 2012, 06:37 PM)
exactly. thats ridiculous especially when they are in demand of engineers. I applied to many of their jobs and two got back to me with a generic reply (which i thought was an honest reply but then found out it was a template)

also wanna know if working in NZ will make it easier to get into aus..

oh actually u can get ur own visa, if you pass the 65 points. thats under their general skilled migration visa. i remember i had only 60 lol. lack of 5 more. and if that doesnt kill you, the fees should. about 1k AUD to apply I think.
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1k aud is cheap...i think u need minimum 2k if you wanna apply by urself without agent. if u use agent add another 1-2k
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post May 28 2012, 09:07 PM

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how about IT jobs like network engineer there? any chance get a job there? Western Australia? anyone heard of 457 visa mining?
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post May 29 2012, 01:24 PM

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what if my engineering degree is not in the list, but I have a family member who is a citizen (not PR)? would that be of enough points?
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post May 29 2012, 01:28 PM

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if you are applying under GSM, nope..ur skills must be in the list and family members does not carry any points anymore..since last year i think..

QUOTE(echobrainproject @ May 29 2012, 01:24 PM)
what if my engineering degree is not in the list, but I have a family member who is a citizen (not PR)? would that be of enough points?
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Added on May 29, 2012, 1:30 pmthere are jobs for Network Engineer..depends which level (beginner, advance) and which track (SP, Voice, DC or Security) you are in..
and of course, its better with a visa..not many company will sponsor for Network Engineer role..

QUOTE(K2002 @ May 28 2012, 09:07 PM)
how about IT jobs like network engineer there? any chance get a job there? Western Australia? anyone heard of 457 visa mining?
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post May 29 2012, 01:54 PM

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QUOTE(K2002 @ May 28 2012, 09:07 PM)
how about IT jobs like network engineer there? any chance get a job there? Western Australia? anyone heard of 457 visa mining?
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You got a PR? I filled a few position on the eastern front earlier during the year. There might be a vacancy in Melbourne by the end of the year if things goes well, if not early next year. PM me if you are interested. Personally I'm into security but the role can be either network or security.

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post May 29 2012, 02:36 PM

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Anyone in WA who can recommend a job for a mech eng with 2.5 yrs exp? Got a 475, so constrained to working and living in regional WA only.

And a question to those who are currently living down under, has anyone gotten a job before landing in Aus? I understand that some employer would prefer that you land in Aus first before considering you for a job.
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post May 29 2012, 03:22 PM

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QUOTE(chrishung @ May 29 2012, 02:36 PM)
Anyone in WA who can recommend a job for a mech eng with 2.5 yrs exp? Got a 475, so constrained to working and living in regional WA only.

And a question to those who are currently living down under, has anyone gotten a job before landing in Aus? I understand that some employer would prefer that you land in Aus first before considering you for a job.
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Why limit yourself to regional WA only? Any particular reason for that?


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post May 29 2012, 03:37 PM

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Why limit yourself to regional WA only? Any particular reason for that?
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It's a visa requirement. 475 is a pathway to PR (subclass 887). Very easy to get PR this way since you only need to comply with the conditions for 475, ie live for 2 yrs and work full time for 1 yr in regional area.
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post May 29 2012, 04:14 PM

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QUOTE(chrishung @ May 29 2012, 03:37 PM)
It's a visa requirement. 475 is a pathway to PR (subclass 887). Very easy to get PR this way since you only need to comply with the conditions for 475, ie live for 2 yrs and work full time for 1 yr in regional area.
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It seems that you have done lots of research. Just to keep you up to date. The new legislations starting from Jul this year (not confirmed yet but very likely) will reduce the 6 subclasses of employer sponsored visas to 2.

Here is the link:
http://www.acacia-au.com/permanent_employe...isa_reforms.php


So I think it doesn't matter anymore either you work in Perth or Sydney. Please correct me if I am wrong!
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post May 29 2012, 04:52 PM

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QUOTE(hihihehe @ May 22 2012, 07:39 PM)
can I know where and what company u working with? please pm me if you dont mind

holding TR currently and going to expired next year(1 year is not long) and looking for employer sponsorship :/
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You can extend one more year for the TR?? =)


Added on May 29, 2012, 4:54 pm
QUOTE(doinkz_gaara @ May 22 2012, 10:41 PM)
AH thanks!

So it's 457 Visa first. Went and checked the website, thank god my job and skills is in the list. biggrin.gif
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Most importantly is that you need to have the company WILLING, and also ELIGIBLE to be a sponsor. For example, if the company can sponsor you to get PR, then you mah can go work for ANYONE now?? So that's why I think most companies will only sponsor you for 457, and not to get PR...

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post May 29 2012, 04:58 PM

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QUOTE(tatagal @ May 29 2012, 03:14 AM)
It seems that you have done lots of research. Just to keep you up to date. The new legislations starting from Jul this year (not confirmed yet but very likely) will reduce the 6 subclasses of employer sponsored visas to 2.

Here is the link:
http://www.acacia-au.com/permanent_employe...isa_reforms.php
So I think it doesn't matter anymore either you work in Perth or Sydney. Please correct me if I am wrong!
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Thanks for the useful link, though it doesn't really apply to me. 475 is a state sponsored visa whereas 457 is employer sponsored, which means that WA will have an interest in keeping their beneficiary within the state. In fact, I have to do keep WA gov apprised every 6 months on my work and residential location. Once I transition to a PR though there will be no restriction and all benefits entitled to a PR (ie Medicare) will commence immediately since I will have fulfilled the 2 yrs residency requirement.
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post May 29 2012, 05:03 PM

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QUOTE(cheezzzz @ May 28 2012, 12:06 AM)
well i hate to burst your bubble but as long as we are not graduate from Deakin(KDU), Nottingham, UM, MARA, Sunway, Monash, Curtin, Swinburne - we are not in the list of recognised uni.

u ought to have a visa first and for fresh grad the cheapest is 476 visa. one of the requirement is that you graduate from one of the uni in the list. i graduate from utar in oct later this year. am already searching for a way to go aus.. and it has been rough so far haha!

all the best, not easy but I believe not tough either. you don't HAVE TO HAVE a visa, but without being a visa and without residing in aus while u apply for the job, your chances reduce by 90% in a way.. bcuz they will just say they cannot proceed further with your application as you do not live/work here.
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My agent showed me a website about an education database that shows what degrees from what uni are comparable to Australia unis.. maybe that will help in employment? If I were you I may include that as part of my CV to inform the potential employer that my school is a good/ok school.

Again i was in the same dilemma as cheezzzz... and after some thought decided to apply PR on my own first, THEN only apply for jobs...


Added on May 29, 2012, 5:05 pm
QUOTE(FirFir @ May 28 2012, 03:21 PM)
Is chef job still big demand in Australia?
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Chefs are required.. but tradespeople face difficulties in passing the skills assessment... and English test... =(


Added on May 29, 2012, 5:06 pm
QUOTE(jskf01 @ May 28 2012, 04:40 PM)
1k aud is cheap...i think u need minimum 2k if you wanna apply by urself without agent. if u use agent add another 1-2k
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i used agent... everything ard RM 20K.. LOL... i better earn back AUD 6000 to cover the costs... tongue.gif


Added on May 29, 2012, 5:11 pm
QUOTE(chrishung @ May 29 2012, 04:58 PM)
Thanks for the useful link, though it doesn't really apply to me. 475 is a state sponsored visa whereas 457 is employer sponsored, which means that WA will have an interest in keeping their beneficiary within the state. In fact, I have to do keep WA gov apprised every 6 months on my work and residential location. Once I transition to a PR though there will be no restriction and all benefits entitled to a PR (ie Medicare) will commence immediately since I will have fulfilled the 2 yrs residency requirement.
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Regional WA is big now with the mining boom I guess... but you can also move to other regional areas like Adelaide for example... because like what you said once you fulfill the 2 years stay in a regional area (not necessarily in the state that sponsored you) then you can apply for the PR ald..

Hope that opens up more possibilities for you?? =)

This post has been edited by Mirror_man: May 29 2012, 05:11 PM
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post May 29 2012, 05:34 PM

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Added on May 29, 2012, 5:11 pm
Regional WA is big now with the mining boom I guess... but you can also move to other regional areas like Adelaide for example... because like what you said once you fulfill the 2 years stay in a regional area (not necessarily in the state that sponsored you) then you can apply for the PR ald..

Hope that opens up more possibilities for you?? =)
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Nope. Must stay and work in regional WA. I could have applied for a PR directly but the July cutoff date is just too close for comfort since I only fulfill the work experience point in April.

What's your visa status?

In any case, I'm planning to stay with a relative in Perth while looking for a job there. Getting a job before landing would be a bonus though.

At least you only have to earn back 6000. I got to fork up another 4000+ for the PR in the future.
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post May 29 2012, 06:04 PM

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QUOTE(chrishung @ May 29 2012, 02:36 PM)
And a question to those who are currently living down under, has anyone gotten a job before landing in Aus? I understand that some employer would prefer that you land in Aus first before considering you for a job.
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Me...my first 457 was when i got sponsored from Singapore. 2nd 457 (moved to another company) was when I've worked in Au. 2nd company now sponsoring my PR after 8 months with them. smile.gif

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