So there's no shale boom in Australia at all...i thought they had just discover something big down south in Coober Pedy? As far as i knw, the mining industry in USA is in such a sad state now haha... bad timing to study mining engineering now.

Mining industry in Australia still consider OK for now but definitely something will change in say 5-10 years. The cost of living is getting higher and minimum wage is not low too. Many shopping centre don't dare to open till late hour because of the minimum wage + shift allowance.

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Wondering how do i secure a job in Australia since i apply it from malaysia.

Apply from Malaysia? The chance will be 1% to secure a job. Good luck though

Oo damn really that bad? is it because i gt no visa and also no experience in aus?

Immi is just a bloody people smugling business. I heard alot of stories it makes me sick.  I worked there for 6 years. It is getting worst by the day both in jobs and economy. Unless you are in the gas business, dont even try to go there now. Even then, most of thier refinery are converting into terminals. Mining companies are now packing up because they are interested in investing at other cheaper countries. I seen alot of offices closed down due to the ore price drop (that includes gold).

Yes, money is good during the old days where the mining boom was giving good wealth to the country. Now, China dont need that much ore from them. The local community cant allow fracking because it will destroy thier agriculture and water supply.

There are really bad areas in Australia. It is not all green grass and roses there, very often at the city i seen jobless people just going around asking for money. High paid job are usually in contract that they will fire when things goes south. Look at thier health system, even consultants are out of jobs. They fired all the exprience nurses and hire young fellas to do the job. Even my sister wants to work at Singapore after being a consultant.

Interesting fact is most big companies actually send their expereience engineers from other country to work at Australia under the 457 visa. They know the locals cant do shit, most of them are just bullshit talkers. Some have 5 years experience and dont know their engineering well enough to deisgn. I dare say those talented fellas that i had worked are 457 visa holders are from the UK, US, Singapore, Malaysia, Indonesia and other parts of the world.

Centerlink had changed thier rules now. I dont think they will allow jobless youngsters sucking thier government tits.

I have already foreseen the bolded in Australia like 5-6 years ago when there was a mining boom. I've already told some friends to avoid going to australia if you think the mining sensation will go on. And 5-6 year later, it was spot on.

The rationale is simple. Raw materials are raw materials and they are roughly sold at the same (assuming same grade) whether mined in Indonesia or Australia. For eg. coal mined in Australia would have the same application and same price as coal mined in Indonesia. But the cost of mining in Australia is about 10x higher of that in Indonesia. Its simple mathematics at the end of the day.

For e.g. A mining truck driver earns AUD5000 p.a. in Indonesia (and its a VERY GOOD pay in Indonesia) and the same mining truck driver would cost AUD150k p.a. in Australia. However the value produced by truck driver in Indonesia and Australia are the same. No difference except for less cost in Indonesia (and hence more profit for the company) and additional cost of mining in Australia (and hence less profit to the company).

Oh correction to my previous comment...i was mentioning AUs, not USA, commented wrongly. Is mining really that terrible now in Aus...then what industry is thriving in Aus if every industry seems to be in recession?

Well, do u wanna listen to a real story happening here?

I heard from a Chinese guy mentioned, some tried to get into Oz but failed due to so many restriction. So, they go thru the working visa 457. They actually look for a company sponsorship to work here. They paid the company on application of visa and even the salary! means they pay salary to themselves in order to get into Oz. After 2 years, they can go thru application for PR. Of course, those days IELTS requirement not that high.

I even heard some rich Chinese businessmen buy watever shit business here as TR. They throw in money to meet the income target for 2 years then sell off to some other guy who will doing the same thing. Once the meet 2 years TR, they can apply for PR. That's y i saw a restaurant owner change so many round here....some even malaysian!

Oz gov now wanted to restrict immigrants from coming in giving you some bullshit requirement. If you have degree, you're already far more qualified than the local Ozzie here coz i know majority construction or project manager dun even have diploma! But they earn $150k/annum richer than u 3 times. It's not about racist, it's more on discrimination on other nation capabilities. But of course, i do saw some Ozzie lazy bump really don't like to work. They'll accept watever salary or shitty jobs u offer. Once they get in, they'll make u fire them so that they can continue claiming centrelink money.

Just made my visit to local public housing (low cost housing) rented to Aboriginal. Damn, nice house turn into shit house. Even got condom in the kitchen basin! All walls got holes, shit inside the toilet. All doors got holes. I even saw an underground hideout. Heard from gov agent said they tend to hide themselves under so that police won't detect them there. Tot there's some corpses being buried there.....and smells stinks!

Got some photo, dunno how to upload it here

So there's no shale boom in Australia at all...i thought they had just discover something big down south in Coober Pedy? As far as i knw, the mining industry in USA is in such a sad state now haha... bad timing to study mining engineering now.

Mining industry in Australia still consider OK for now but definitely something will change in say 5-10 years. The cost of living is getting higher and minimum wage is not low too. Many shopping centre don't dare to open till late hour because of the minimum wage + shift allowance.

IELTS is the only way that the immigration can use to reduce the PR application. I heard that India, people actually pay bribe to pass the IELTS for immigration. Thus, recently there is a new ruling about IELTS taken from India.

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I even heard some rich Chinese businessmen buy watever shit business here as TR. They throw in money to meet the income target for 2 years then sell off to some other guy who will doing the same thing. Once the meet 2 years TR, they can apply for PR. That's y i saw a restaurant owner change so many round here....some even malaysian!

Oz gov now wanted to restrict immigrants from coming in giving you some bullshit requirement. If you have degree, you're already far more qualified than the local Ozzie here coz i know majority construction or project manager dun even have diploma! But they earn $150k/annum richer than u 3 times.




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I have already foreseen the bolded in Australia like 5-6 years ago when there was a mining boom. I've already told some friends to avoid going to australia if you think the mining sensation will go on. And 5-6 year later, it was spot on.

The rationale is simple. Raw materials are raw materials and they are roughly sold at the same (assuming same grade) whether mined in Indonesia or Australia. For eg. coal mined in Australia would have the same application and same price as coal mined in Indonesia. But the cost of mining in Australia is about 10x higher of that in Indonesia. Its simple mathematics at the end of the day.

For e.g. A mining truck driver earns AUD5000 p.a. in Indonesia (and its a VERY GOOD pay in Indonesia) and the same mining truck driver would cost AUD150k p.a. in Australia. However the value produced by truck driver in Indonesia and Australia are the same. No difference except for less cost in Indonesia (and hence more profit for the company) and additional cost of mining in Australia (and hence less profit to the company).

Didn't you know that bribing , lying etc  are what Asians  esp mainland Chinese, Indians and Pinoys use to stay ahead of the game??? Come to Vancouver.and see for yourself. Plenty of Indian  taxi drivers with uni degree  and you will probably have a hard time trying to understand  their spoken English

It is pretty common in North America , esp in Canada for Chinese businessmen  to do what you describe to get the PR visa. The worst is in the restaurant business. It is a revolving door

Must construction or project manager have a diploma or degree?? Or is it an Asian expectation that a manager must have a degree or diploma??? What's wrong with experience??? The company I am with. Both former and present plant managers don't have degree or diploma. Just high school. One had some 30+ yrs  experiences. The present one has some 20 yrs or so experience. Both of them started on the shop floor and climbed  up the rank

Discover does not mean feasible for economic development..

same goes the FLNG saga over onshore or offshore.

The answer lies well with offshore, just politician politicized it over and over hope to get it a deal for themself when the W.S CEO said, well we already had the answer. Like it our not, suck it up.

http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/news/south-a...3-1226560401043

That, to develop. Linc Energy need to well, get approval and the other end is that, the overall "process" is it worth it?

The next phase will be GAS economy, still going strong.