First sitting in Malaysia (General Paper): L - 7, S - 8, R - 9, W - 6.5
Second sitting in Australia (Academic Paper as requested by assessing authority): L - 9, S - 7, R - 8, W - 7.

Doubt I'll get a full 8 in my next sitting. 5 points short from meeting EOI requirement.

This post has been edited by immabee: Jul 2 2013, 08:53 PM

If only... but doubt they can.

+1

In a child's point of view, we did not regret for not migrating to OZ [especially in early age] when a number of relatives and family friends have migrated there for better future. I know Australia doesn't fit our family in general and I can't imagine dad missing out his days hanging out with his mates in Kopitiam and mom hating winter. As a result, we've decided to stay in Malaysia and it is up to me (subject to budget as well) if I wish to pursue my degree abroad.

It was costly [especially university tuition fees] as a result of missing out the opportunity to obtain PR but I guess it was worthwhile having my family remaining in Malaysia. ROI? Will try to work that out, perhaps by giving an attempt working in Australia, Singapore or Brunei. But at least I am glad my sister has more options as soon as she finishes her Pre-U.

The best move would be migrating to Australia while your kids are in year 10-12 with PR or alternatively, give birth in Australia and have your children return 15-20 years later. Your children will have Australian citizenship and that explains cheaper university tuition fees even if your PR ceases in 15-20 years time.


NZ's the way to go if you want cheaper tuition fees and greater likelihood to obtain PR/land a job after graduation as an international student.

From my observation & awareness (can be bias)...

Rape, robbery, burglary
Malaysia > Australia

Large scale of anti-social behaviour, assaults, racist remarks, gang fights, hoons and/or drunk people crash their cars into your living room/bedroom, gun shots within the neighbourhood.
Aus> Malaysia

Higher likelihood to be safe when walking alone during night time
Aus> Malaysia

Likelihood a 'missing' person to be found
Aus> Malaysia

Most murders committed by serial killers
Aus> Malaysia

This post has been edited by immabee: Nov 13 2013, 05:30 AM

Hey mate. Can relate to you. Just completed my studies and still contemplating if I should stay (locally or interstate) or return home to pursue my career in Accounting. Am more American but got caught up a lot with Australian media and sports.

We, in WA are quite proud with Dockers (except for finals).

Thanks, I'll think about it. In fact, my personality inclines more into Americans (except the excessive extroversion that they possess) due to influences from the States since young and my study exchange during my degree. During my final year, I worked in an Australian professional organisation on casual basis and yes you're right, I do enjoy their lame jokes and their laid-back approach towards work.

Not that I am trying to 'fit in' being an Aussie, but I rather find their media, sports and politics my source of entertainment to kill my boredom after school, since I don't live in a city that is considered vibrant.

What made me contemplated heading home is partly strong connections and friendships established here, the style of work and thinking process that I am now used to (which is so different from home). The thing about being abroad has taught me to exercise my creativity as well as to appreciate different thinking processes in a flat hierarchy work environment (pretty much) but I guess in reality I should just forget about these as soon as I work back home.

This post has been edited by immabee: Nov 30 2013, 09:55 PM

Hi Nemesis. Just wondering if you have any positive experiences during your time in Sydney. Did you move to Perth because of job opportunities? I was thinking if I eventually get a PR for my accounting career (still contemplating), Sydney is on my list at this stage.

This. Just completed my degree and now I have no chance applying for PR and nomination from NSW until July 2014. Now an Accounting & Finance graduate, what would you guys suggest me to do during the period of 6 months before NSW nomination reopens?

- Obtain a Grad temp visa and apply for part-time tutoring at university/admin work and continue job searching in Australia
- Work in Singapore/Malaysia as an accounting/finance graduate/associate* and leave as soon as PR has been approved
- Work in Singapore/Malaysia as an accounting/finance intern*
- Other suggestions

*Preferably in Audit division

I am currently undecided (absolute torn) and open to any advice as I am sure some of you have obtained personal experiences as you go through this stage.

Thanks

Nope, if you need them as evidence for your points. http://www.immi.gov.au/skills/skillselect/index/faqs/

Happy New Year and thanks for your reply . Fulfilled all above, except I am under 25 yo (far off). Since I am 5 points short, I am trying to acquire state nomination from the NSW government (willing to relocate to Sydney). As they no longer accept applications until July 2014, I was wondering if employers from my desired job are convinced to take me on board while holding a temporary visa. Tough luck indeed.

Thanks for your reply. Have attempted that too, (3 times to be precise). Got 8 and above for reading and listening components while speaking fluctuates between 7 to 8 and writing 7 at max. I don't think re-sitting will be helpful at this stage and it is not cheap. Hence, I would rather invest my next IELTS exam fee on a NSW state nomination (unfortunately they're now closed). I, in fact do not mind not being in Australia prior to July 2014. Just have to find a way to acquire experience as I go through the first few months.

Too bad I am ineligible for 489 visa (taking all states into account).

Currently under student visa 573 until mid-March 2014. Still undecided if I should go for graduate visa 485 (eligible to apply as long as I apply in Australia before my student visa expires). Am trying to weigh if a graduate visa 485 costing close to $1.5k is worth the shot to be in Australia mainly covering the first 6 months with the uncertainty of scoring a relevant accounting job/part-time tutoring opportunities before obtaining a 190.

It's just the matter of time.

If your company is still searching, I can recommend a friend of mine in Perth . Am sure he's willing to work hard for this.

Thanks Nemesis. Good on her.

Congrats mate! I wonder how did you managed to convince OZ employers in considering you (despite the uncertainty of your future visa)? Did you disclose your current visa status/situation in your resume/cover letter or apply as if you're a local?

Thanks mate. If only I could know this earlier from you and Empire23.

During uni, I worked for an Australian non profit organisation (corporate setting) in administrative matters and managed to make it to a few final interviews from small accounting firms (through quick networking in random) but I didn't want to get stuck too long in the division that I'm not interested at. For others that I've applied via email/application form etc, no chance to explain in detail about my visa status as I've heard nothing from them after submitted my application (including disclosing my visa status). Hence I moved back to Malaysia because it's much better than obtaining a TR, remain in Australia and bet with uncertainty, sitting in front of the computer waiting for hope.

Graduated in mid Jan and began working in a local accounting firm (with my intended division) earlier in February. The job was fine but the Malaysian style of work and pay have yet to compensate me well.

I was thinking if I could give it a shot for 190 this coming July (still 5 pts short before 190) and should the PR application pass through, I hope to make arrangements to relocate to a new city only if I am getting offers from OZ employers (issue is to convince them whilst being abroad). To work in OZ is not as crucial as I thought (although I was very accustomed to their style of work) but it could be a great back up as one of my exit opportunities sooner than later.

There's no way I could get a PR earlier, but a TR at current circumstances. If it's easy, any James, Peter and Paul graduated from accounting would've gotten one (this happened perhaps 4 years ago). Not all accounting students will qualify for PR. Firstly, they must meet the minimum criteria via skill assessment (at least IELTS 7 in all components for academic module) and later meet 60 points from SkillSelect. Furthermore, the number of accounting students in Australia is way overwhelming than say Actuaries. From my understanding, there are only 6 universities offering Actuarial Science courses while at least 50 universities and colleges are offering Accounting courses (in Bachelor level). The demand from number of jobs offered isn't enough to compensate the current supply of accounting graduates. Hence most jobs are taken by Australian PRs and citizens during final year and before graduation.

I'm not old enough (under 25yo) and overall 8 in IELTS (everything 8 and above except for writing at 7.5). This leaves me qualified from skill assessment but not from SkillSelect point system and for sure I remain hanging. Can't be bothered resitting for IELTS (done that 3 times over my final year and before graduation). Would rather get state nomination (extra 5 points) at a price of an IELTS sitting. Professional year is a waste of time and money. Processing for 190 is quicker than 189 by 6 months. That's why.

A TR may grant you 5 additional points to PR if you accumulate 1 year of work experience in an accounting role. Although you may have heard plenty of positions available for Accounts Receivables/Payables and Payroll, but these experiences do not count towards 5 extra points. Holding a TR does not convince potential employers to take you in as you may not have sufficient points when your TR expires or not having your PR approved even with sufficient points after lodging your application via SkillSelect. I have seen that from many of my seniors in Australia and most left 6 months after as they have yet to receive offers for accounting job under TR.

So yeah.

An accounting degree with all 8 in IELTS is the golden ticket. Otherwise it's an accounting degree with a TR+1 year accounting work experience (for pre 15 November 2011 student visa holders without royal flush 8). You've got a point there and this is why I did not stay for TR and returned home accumulating experiences as I go. Yeah, 2 out of 3 times of my IELTS sittings are done in Malaysia and I see no reason to resit. I see opportunity for PR as secondary, hence the little investment I've made in making this possible. TBH, I am not far from state nomination reopening date so I shall go with that once it is made available. Got most of my documents sorted out though.

Ditto mate! My OZ friends and colleagues want to know what I was up to. Converted them my salary to AUD and they were in utter shock after the conversion. My 1 month salary is nowhere close to their 1 week salary.

Thanks for the tip! FSW application? Sounds like you're heading off to Canada?

This post has been edited by immabee: May 31 2014, 09:54 PM

NSW, a month to go.

Applies to both regional and non-regional.

These are the FAQs: http://www.business.nsw.gov.au/__data/asse...omination-1.pdf

NSW State Occupation List (as updated at 16 April) - http://www.business.nsw.gov.au/__data/asse...pation-List.pdf

Hopefully 190 is back on by July. Fingers crossed.