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ngaisteve1
post Jun 19 2012, 12:01 PM

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QUOTE(kparam77 @ Jun 19 2012, 12:55 PM)
Closure of Sales for Public SmallCap Fund

We wish to inform that Public SmallCap Fund (P SmallCap) will be closed for sales
effective from 2 July 2012 (Monday). We will continue to process investments for
existing Direct Debit and Regular Investment instructions.

Following the above, investors may consider investing in our new fund, Public
Strategic SmallCap Fund (PSSCF) which was launched on 20 March 2012. PSSCF has
similar features to P SmallCap and aims to achieve capital appreciation over the
medium to long term period through investments primarily in companies with small
market capitalisation.

Please contact our Customer Service Hotline at 03-6207 5000 (Kuala Lumpur),
04-729 1500 (Penang) or 05-210 6500 (Ipoh) if you have any enquiry regarding the
above matter.
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how come close already? i thought the unit price has been dropping hmm.gif


Added on June 19, 2012, 12:03 pmi just switch from regular saving to public islamic income fund recently. what do you think of public islamic income fund? i look at the 1 year history and it looks okay, about 7%

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post Jun 19 2012, 12:08 PM

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QUOTE(ngaisteve1 @ Jun 19 2012, 12:01 PM)
how come close already? i thought the unit price has been droppingĀ  hmm.gif
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NAV low, more ppl like moi sapu lar tongue.gif
Thus, limit hit liao (the approved size/units by SC as in Securities Commission, not service charge laugh.gif , i think)
http://www.sc.com.my/eng/html/resources/gu...8_cis_utGLa.pdf search the PDF for "Size of Funds" or Chapter 11

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post Jun 19 2012, 12:14 PM

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QUOTE(wongmunkeong @ Jun 19 2012, 01:08 PM)
NAV low, more ppl like moi sapu lar tongue.gif
Thus, limit hit liao (the approved size/units by SC as in Securities Commission, not service chargeĀ  laugh.gif , i think)
http://www.sc.com.my/eng/html/resources/gu...8_cis_utGLa.pdf search the PDF for "Size of Funds" or Chapter 11
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i see, i remember back then, it peak up to about RM0.90. luckily sold off / switch to other fund liao. i guess now people buy 'low' and sell 'high' again biggrin.gif

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post Jun 19 2012, 07:01 PM

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Anyone going for this fund?

PB Dynamic Allocation Fund

It is equity fund.. good time to get in?

http://biz.thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?f...31&sec=business

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post Jun 19 2012, 07:39 PM

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QUOTE(wongmunkeong @ Jun 19 2012, 12:08 PM)
NAV low, more ppl like moi sapu lar tongue.gif
Thus, limit hit liao (the approved size/units by SC as in Securities Commission, not service charge  laugh.gif , i think)
http://www.sc.com.my/eng/html/resources/gu...8_cis_utGLa.pdf search the PDF for "Size of Funds" or Chapter 11
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I am glad so many people rush in to buy Small-cap, that leaves those better performing funds untapped and allow me more time to accumulate.

Thank you all, mucho gracias, ng koi, sieh-sieh, nandri, danke, merci beaucoup, terima-kasih.

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post Jun 19 2012, 08:47 PM

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i used my epf invested in public focus select fund. since feb last year until now, the return is 6%++. i dunno if i shud re-purchase it and re-invest the fund again when the market going down again.
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QUOTE(kent05 @ Jun 19 2012, 08:47 PM)
i used my epf invested in public focus select fund. since feb last year until now, the return is 6%++. i dunno if i shud re-purchase it and re-invest the fund again when the market going down again.
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try ask ur consultant and see?
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post Jun 19 2012, 09:43 PM

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QUOTE(kent05 @ Jun 19 2012, 08:47 PM)
i used my epf invested in public focus select fund. since feb last year until now, the return is 6%++. i dunno if i shud re-purchase it and re-invest the fund again when the market going down again.
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lock profits at bonds funds is better option rather than repurchase and enter back.
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QUOTE(xuzen @ Jun 19 2012, 07:39 PM)
I am glad so many people rush in to buy Small-cap, that leaves those better performing funds untapped and allow me more time to accumulate.

Thank you all, mucho gracias, ng koi, sieh-sieh, nandri, danke, merci beaucoup, terima-kasih.

Xuzen
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post Jun 19 2012, 10:45 PM

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MUTUAL GOLD FREE PERSONAL ACCIDENT INSURANCE

We are pleased to inform that effective 15 June 2012, the age limit for Mutual Gold Free Personal Accident Insurance will be extended from age 65 to 74. With this extension, all qualified Mutual Gold Members age 18 to 74 (terminate at attaining age 75) will be covered.

Other terms and conditions for this insurance coverage remain unchanged.

Please contact our Hotline at 03-6207 5000 should you require further information.


http://www.publicmutual.com.my/OurProducts...MutualGold.aspx
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QUOTE(kent05 @ Jun 19 2012, 08:47 PM)
i used my epf invested in public focus select fund. since feb last year until now, the return is 6%++. i dunno if i shud re-purchase it and re-invest the fund again when the market going down again.
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buy when it goes down.

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post Jun 19 2012, 10:56 PM

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QUOTE(jonproperty @ Jun 19 2012, 10:51 PM)
buy when it goes down.
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yes another option to top up for cheaper price to get better/cheaper cost per unit.
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QUOTE(ngaisteve1 @ Jun 19 2012, 12:01 PM)
how come close already? i thought the unit price has been dropping  hmm.gif

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A fund would be closed when all its shares is fully bought up (or close to that level)... nothing to do with its unit price... I don't think anyone buying into or selling out of the fund will affect the unit price.

Also when the price is lower, it does not necessary means it is performing poorly... it might be lower because of the economic situation in general, but it could also be out-performing its benchmark... an unit split or distribution at its financial year-end could also lower the unit price.

(Just my 2 cents... and trying to sound like an "expert". biggrin.gif )


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post Jun 20 2012, 10:49 AM

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QUOTE(j.passing.by @ Jun 20 2012, 10:27 AM)
A fund would be closed when all its shares is fully bought up (or close to that level)... nothing to do with its unit price... I don't think anyone buying into or selling out of the fund will affect the unit price.

Also when the price is lower, it does not necessary means it is performing poorly... it might be lower because of the economic situation in general, but it could also be out-performing its benchmark... an unit split or distribution at its financial year-end could also lower the unit price.

(Just my 2 cents... and trying to sound like an "expert".  biggrin.gif )
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I don't think anyone buying into or selling out of the fund will affect the unit price.

yes, it is.

unit price will effect by UIC.
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QUOTE(kparam77 @ Jun 20 2012, 10:49 AM)
I don't think anyone buying into or selling out of the fund will affect the unit price.

yes, it is.

unit price will effect by UIC.
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What is UIC?

My switching in and out of a fund will affect its unit price? Really? Please expand...




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QUOTE(j.passing.by @ Jun 20 2012, 11:11 AM)
What is UIC?

My switching in and out of a fund will affect its unit price? Really? Please expand...
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UIC = Unit In Circulation.

lets say Fund A.

daily units in the fund A will be change due to in/out no units daily. so its will effect the unit price.

unit price = NAV (fund value) / UIC.

pls read how the unit price calculated in master prospectus.

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QUOTE(kparam77 @ Jun 20 2012, 11:27 AM)
UIC = Unit In Circulation.

lets say Fund A.

daily units in the fund A will be change due to in/out no units daily. so its will effect the unit price.

unit price = NAV (fund value) / UIC.

pls read how the unit price calculated in master prospectus.

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yes, that's make sense.

there's an old joke... don't recalled it punchline or humor; but it's something like this... An investor was buying into a stock every month and as the stock had steadily increased 6 months straight, he was happy buying it without fail... so at the end of the 6th month, he wanted to sell and harvest the profit. But his stockbroker said there is no buyer. How is this so? The stock price had steadily climbed the past 6 months, he asked. Stockbroker said he was the sole buyer in the stock, and he himself has steadily bid up the price the past 6 months!

thank god PM has millions of units in a fund, and thousands of unit holders buying and selling...

or maybe I'm wrong about PM... should I be scared? blink.gif



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QUOTE(j.passing.by @ Jun 20 2012, 12:00 PM)
yes, that's make sense.

there's an old joke... don't recalled it punchline or humor; but it's something like this... An investor was buying into a stock every month and as the stock had steadily increased 6 months straight, he was happy buying it without fail... so at the end of the 6th month, he wanted to sell and harvest the profit. But his stockbroker said there is no buyer. How is this so? The stock price had steadily climbed the past 6 months, he asked. Stockbroker said he was the sole buyer in the stock, and he himself has steadily bid up the price the past 6 months!

thank god PM has millions of units in a fund, and thousands of unit holders buying and selling...

or maybe I'm wrong about PM... should I be scared?  blink.gif
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no worries, PM will buy back ur units at any of time..rclxms.gif rclxms.gif
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Hi guys,

Here's the situation: a bond fund switched into equity fund (PIOF) 2 weeks ago, and as of yesterday, gained 2.7%. It would be going up a bit today, and KLCI is just 3 points below 1600 at the moment.

Switched out penalty is 0.75%.

Should I lock in the gain and pay the penalty or let it be and allow it to sink when the market goes down?

Will the downside be more than 3%, wiping out all the gain plus much, much more?

Or will the market maintained its level (slightly below or above) for another 2.5 months?... which by then the switch out cost is only RM25.

What's your opinion?




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QUOTE(j.passing.by @ Jun 20 2012, 04:12 PM)
Hi guys,

Here's the situation: a bond fund switched into equity fund (PIOF) 2 weeks ago, and as of yesterday, gained 2.7%. It would be going up a bit today, and KLCI is just 3 points below 1600 at the moment.

Switched out penalty is 0.75%.

Should I lock in the gain and pay the penalty or let it be and allow it to sink when the market goes down?

Will the downside be more than 3%, wiping out all the gain plus much, much more?

Or will the market maintained its level (slightly below or above) for another 2.5 months?... which by then the switch out cost is only RM25.

What's your opinion?
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I'd think it depends entirely on your Exit plans when U entered.
If U didn't have them yet, well, fear & greed will help make decisions or indecisions hhehe tongue.gif

Like most folks mentioned, even if Tom, d*** or Harry thinks KLSE will maintain, rise or fall, it doesn't matter as they don't have a working crystal ball yet biggrin.gif
Personally, when unsure - look to your Asset Allocation + 3 months or so incoming cash+EPF/savings for investments and decide.

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