3dassets,

The WORLD / ENVIRONMENT will not change for YOU. YOU have to ADAPT and SURVIVE. Or, change your environment.

I had 10+ jobs across 20+ years. I changed country, industry, and employer as needed in order to MAXIMIZE my earning potential.

Do not HOPE and PRAY that things will be better. Take the INITIATIVE to make it better.

I make sure that my contacts, social network, and skill are PORTABLE globally.

I no longer dependent on any single country and industry for my survival.

Dreamer

Eh! Cannot reach concession like that Not fair, the condition created by policy is what we are up against for many years to come, come tell us how to defy NEP and become rich.

I too have portable talent and skill but I don't repeat your steps, I will create new business that can be expected in the future whether the society progress or not, I too can adapt my knowledge areas that require design only low in value and I suggest ways to make a difference not preaching motivation alone.

This post has been edited by 3dassets: Sep 4 2011, 01:42 AM

seriously you expect seasoned/experienced people like 3dassets, tigerr (just judging from their comments) to believe this?

you keep REPEATING the same story of you changing >10jobs blah blah, but yet you fail to state what kind of jobs/industry/duration for each job

it's just too VAGUE

please, if you dont mind, we love some MORE details not in general

Ask Ananda Krishnan.. and Tony Fernandes.. and Dato' Jeffery Cheah..

If you ask me, i dont have an answer. However, i do support NEP although i didnt benefit anything from NEP. But the implementation of NEP is wrong and being abused. We didnt achieve its real objective.

dafreak,

WHAT do we TEACH in this thread??

"Can Do" attitude. Ask what you "Can DO" to find out!! Stop WAITING for answer.

If you are MOTIVATED to know DETAILS of what I do, a simple search will do plenty for you. I had 10K+ posts on lowyat forum.

Start practicing what you learn..

Dreamer

How to reach those people lah? Those fella why want to share? dreamer101 is here mah. But did he mention how much he is worth? If not rich enough then never mind, no better than I try on my own otherwise ended up talking cock when old. (like him)

Tigerr,

<<However, i do support NEP>>

Do YOU support forcing people out of their jobs and businesses because of their skin color??

Yes or no.

Essentially, when you say that you support NEP, that means you say Yes to the question above.

So, be VERY CAREFUL as to what you are talking about.

Dreamer

Dreamer, again, you did not read properly my message. I do support NEP, but the NEP was implemented badly and being abused. If the NEP was implemented in a proper way, perhaps the outcome could be different. However, NEP shall have a timeline as well.

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Added on September 4, 2011, 2:00 amDreamer, again, you did not read properly my message. I do support NEP, but the NEP was implemented badly and being abused. If the NEP was implemented in a proper way, perhaps the outcome could be different. However, NEP shall have a timeline as well.

This post has been edited by Tigerr: Sep 4 2011, 02:00 AM

Tigerr,

In less than 5 years, NEP will be gone. Whoever supported or profited from NEP will be punished by God / Karma. There is NO ESCAPE.

Hence, it is no longer necessary to talk about NEP. Justice will be served. God / Karma do exist.

Whoever help and / or support FORCING people out of their jobs and businesses due to their skin colors will face the SAME suffering of losing their jobs and / or business. There is NO ESCAPE.

Dreamer

This post has been edited by dreamer101: Sep 4 2011, 02:35 AM

You see what happen when you pressed dreamer101's taboo button?
I don't believe in god nor karma and it is a choice not a luxury. So are you doing charity by motivating people to accumulate goodness (wow factor) as a believer? Surely god will be pleased to reward you if god will punish the naughty?

Since no oil money to sustain NEP, it shall ceased to exist and average to somewhat wealthy people never feel the difference and if your family or relatives were casualties, bad luck loh. Not the majority Chinese or Indian share the ordeal and are the descendant of the lucky surviver, still no such thing as luck but god exist?

If like that why not say god will take care of us or make us victims because of the sin from the past, punish or reward us depend on god's record and if my bad luck is due to bad karma, shit loh, wasted efforts anyhow, or maybe can repent and cleans the shit from my previous life. Its not fair but I cannot whine

dafreak,

YOU did not answer the question.

Is it ABSURD and FAR FETCHED that a person own the bank??

Yes or no??

If not, WHY do you NOT think of that??

WHAT is STOPPING you??

Dreamer

@ 3dassets

>> If like that why not say god will take care of us or make us victims because of the sin from the past, punish or reward us depend on god's record and if my bad luck is due to bad karma, shit loh, wasted efforts anyhow, or maybe can repent and cleans the shit from my previous life. Its not fair but I cannot whine

◘ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Map%E2%80%93territory_relation

A - You believe in karma, that doing good will make good come back. So you start a company, treat your employees with kindness and respect, focus on the customer, and do the best job you can. As a result, you get rich.

B - You believe in god, that doing good will cause him to bless you. So you start a company, treat your employees with kindness and respect, focus on the customer, and do the best job you can. As a result, you get rich.

C - You believe in natural consequence; there is no God or karma, but results happen according to your actions (treat people like a jerk, and you'll be treated LIKE a jerk). So you start a company, treat your employees with kindness and respect, focus on the customer, and do the best job you can. As a result, you get rich.

D - You want to live in a free and just society, because if we cannot help the many who are poor, then we cannot save the few who are rich. So you start a company, treat your employees with kindness and respect, focus on the customer, and do the best job you can. As a result, you get rich.

It doesn't matter what your interpretation of reality is, as long as we have a mutual understanding of reality of which we can convey.

Philosophy 101 FTW!!!

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Added on September 4, 2011, 4:22 am@ Dreamer

>> Is it ABSURD and FAR FETCHED that a person own the bank??

◘ I think the point's easy to understand. When you buy stock in a company, you're buying a "part" of that company. Though you dont rule over the entire company like it belongs only to you.

As far as starting a bank of your own, that's theoretically possible, but free market competition generally keeps competitors out. Basically, if you want to start a bank and succeed, you have to do BETTER than the banks that are already there. The companies that do best survive because those are the places customers give their money to. Shorter waiting lines, less fine print, and better service mean I'm likely to come back to you rather than someone else.

It's not far fetched. Certainly not impossible. But you'd have to know what you're doing, and have a serious passion for it. Just like with anything else.

This post has been edited by Kasey Brown: Sep 4 2011, 04:22 AM

How do you justify this? first you say without him we would have been more successful, but without him means with someone else, and which someone else would it have been?

Defination of OWN:

MerriamWebster: belonging to oneself or itself —usually used following a possessive case or possessive adjective
Investorwords.com: Having legal right to a property.

so how does buying a small amount company's shares/stock make you OWN it?

Like Kasey said, you will be just treated as part of it but you definitely DONT own the bank unless you bought a HUGE chunk

To make money work for you, you first need to work for money

I already mentioned Mr Bean (metaphorically... meaning anyone else would have done better). Mahathir was a 1st generation Indian immigrant masquerading as a Malay, and to gain the support of the Malays, he had to be more ultra than all the Malays put together. It's a formula that all the Indian / Pakistani / Middle East / North African bumi-wannabe UMNO politicians emulate today.

Who else? Anwar Ibrahim in the later years? Remember him? Tengku Razaleigh in the earlier years? Lee Kuan Yew too if things had been successful in the even earlier years... although the whole separation of Malaysia and Singapore was mainly the work of Mahathir's predecessors.

This post has been edited by seantang: Sep 4 2011, 11:02 AM

if buying the share of the bank means you OWN it, then, i think i OWN few public listed banks.....

dafreak,

Investorwords.com: Having legal right to a property.

You OWN the bank by owning the stock to the bank. It might be 1 / 1 million part of the bank but you are STILL part owner of the bank.

The MOST IMPORTANT part of this is

The Bank pays YOU through DIVIDEND.

So,

A) If you take LOAN from the Bank, you pay the bank. Bank make money FROM you.

B) If you buy bank stock and own part of the bank, the Bank make money FOR you. The bank pays you.

Do you want to

A) pay the bank or

B) let the bank pay you??

The CHOICE is up to YOU.

Dreamer

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Added on September 4, 2011, 10:51 amTigerr,

You do. Except not the WHOLE 100% of the bank. And, if you own 51% of the bank, you CONTROL the bank.

Dreamer

This post has been edited by dreamer101: Sep 4 2011, 10:51 AM

Seriously there is many others can make this country successful NOT JUST HIM.. I hate these politician because their do not FULLY do what they supposed to do.. Without these corrupted thing we can be more successful.. Look at their family, house, car etc.. YES they become rich..

If you want to become more than just average people go be a politician and learn how to cheat people..