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Cavino
post Aug 25 2011, 11:05 PM

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QUOTE(Fubar20 @ Aug 25 2011, 04:55 PM)
Can according to Orang Minyak. But must change engine after one year of continuous using it.  laugh.gif

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On leave today, spend whole day out till now.

Weight 30 on borderline maybe ok, maybe not, can always try then see 1 or 2 years later engine need to change or not. I also don't know, so why risk it to save some FC. Not worth the price of engine. Last time i say if use weight 20, SURE 1 year later need to upgrade engine to CPS version. As Zen mentioned a few times, our engines are long stroke engine (whatever that means), high rev, higher heat generation requires at least weight 40 to be safe.

CPS uses weight 30, but its designed might have lower the heat generated by engine, so not as hot as original non CPS version.

As for recommended engine oil.....really no recommended wan, I do know even if 2 PE using same lube, they might produce slightly different result. Most swear by semi syn Castrol Magnatec. Shell they say get black fast no good (thats misconception, get black fast might also mean lube doing of of its function to clean engine and suspend contaminants). Unless car lose power before 5K change, I would say lube still working very well....as long as its still dark brown and transparent, not superblack.

Personally, I think most branded lube also ok, just don't use China-branded wan unless you're very sure of its quality and qc. Avoid buying branded popular lube in any spare part shops unless you're VERY familiar of the shops trustworthiness...coz the most damage any brand of lube can do is FAKE brand.





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post Aug 25 2011, 11:13 PM

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QUOTE(dorinyeah @ Aug 25 2011, 04:00 PM)
got edge i want!! plan to use edge after during 10k service....another 2k km to roll...
rclxms.gif good idea!!
try Zeng's disclose secret recipe la...55% caltex mix 45% petronas.

i have tested 2 tanks of this recipe...below is my feeling...
power wise is better than petronas itself but not as power as caltex alone
this recipe is good for high speed cruising i feel... yesterday night i maintain speed at 150km/h, indicator is show 7.8L/100km only notworthy.gif

and today i pump back caltex and wanna see wat is the reading at 150km/h...but i feel caltex is suitable for low speed cruising. i travel 60-80 to work during noon... is just 6.5-6.7L/100km
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Heavy footed hor u? 150 KM/h sweat.gif Go where la? Now a lot speed trap la. Better be careful.

QUOTE(shakku @ Aug 25 2011, 04:46 PM)
Tried that before. Slight noticable difference in pick up. Mileage wise, minimal difference. Btw, our campro IAFM can pour in 0w-30 lube? Worry it's too thin for the engine.

Damn the SC doesn't allow outside lubes to brought in. Previously using Castrol 0w-40, one of the best lube around. Now back to Petronas Syntium 3000 sad.gif
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Can.. But u must be careful not to always high rev with 0w-30 lube, and to make sure u service ur car on time.. Or else can say bye bye to ur pistons etc. in a year or two.

QUOTE(vccy @ Aug 25 2011, 05:59 PM)
Plan to try on the next coming service. Still got 4.5k to go. LOL
Satay Celup, (Capotol near jalan banda kaba, this is the worst place to go eat cos jam and hard to parking. Need good parking skills. I din eat before, wonder what so good there.) (jalan ong kim wee got 3 shops can try there.) Queue up like hell during these period of time

Fry Oyster (also need to queue up) Near Bunga raya. Only open at night.

Chicken Rice Ball (at Jonker Walk. Shop Name call Her Chi)

Hokkien fat Mee (while waiting for the fry oyster, can eat 1st locate at same walkway with the Fry Oyster just walk behind. the tong sui there also not bad )

Yee kiau mee ( got plenty shop. Hard to describe.)

Hokkien Laksa (Near putra hospital)

Prawn Mee (same stall with the hokkien laksa)

Cendol (Jonker walk can get. Mostly all cendol in melaka are the same. The most famous one quite far from town.)

Nyoya Food (Near jonker walk)

Duck Mee (Tengkera, find for the biggest tree or ask ppl)

Char siew rice also got plenty. as dorin said one very hard to parking. Just don drop your wheel into the longkang.

Enjoy.  thumbup.gif
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Wth? This thread ah... doh.gif really covers everything from car to chicks to money making business to food...

QUOTE(samwongjyhhorng @ Aug 25 2011, 08:21 PM)
after c tis,a bit takut wan do autofoam ady..wan do it or not leh??
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Do lah.. U got the balls & most importantly, the moneyflies.gif

QUOTE(roy2005 @ Aug 25 2011, 10:55 PM)
For new PE M Line Auto, how long the brake pad need to bed in?
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Depends on how hard u drive & brake lo. U wanna bed it in within a day also possible.

QUOTE(Cavino @ Aug 25 2011, 11:05 PM)
On leave today, spend whole day out till now.

Weight 30 on borderline maybe ok, maybe not, can always try then see 1 or 2 years later engine need to change or not. I also don't know, so why risk it to save some FC. Not worth the price of engine. Last time i say if use weight 20, SURE 1 year later need to upgrade engine to CPS version. As Zen mentioned a few times, our engines are long stroke engine (whatever that means), high rev, higher heat generation requires at least weight 40 to be safe.

CPS uses weight 30, but its designed might have lower the heat generated by engine, so not as hot as original non CPS version.

As for recommended engine oil.....really no recommended wan, I do know even if 2 PE using same lube, they might produce slightly different result. Most swear by semi syn Castrol Magnatec. Shell they say get black fast no good (thats misconception, get black fast might also mean lube doing of of its function to clean engine and suspend contaminants). Unless car lose power before 5K change, I would say lube still working very well....as long as its still dark brown and transparent, not superblack.

Personally, I think most branded lube also ok, just don't use China-branded wan unless you're very sure of its quality and qc. Avoid buying branded popular lube in any spare part shops unless you're VERY familiar of the shops trustworthiness...coz the most damage any brand of lube can do is FAKE brand.
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Fake nevermind.. RECYCLED engine oil.. doh.gif imagine all the debris & metal shards from used engine oil pouring into ur engine.. shakehead.gif
Cavino
post Aug 25 2011, 11:14 PM

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QUOTE(xandras @ Aug 24 2011, 10:56 PM)
Why don't u just pour out the engine oil into a 0.5L mineral water bottle? Fill the bottle up to 1/2 full, u should have ngam ngam 3.75L engine oil left in the engine oil container..
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Engine oil are quite corrosive. Putting in thin grade 1 mineral bottle, I'm afraid of chemical seeping into the oil itself. So the best way is still mark the level at apx 0.25 liter oil at the bottle, pour oil until hit that line.

Just check the level this morning, abt 2-3mm above max, so I guess the mechanic DID pour only 3.8 liter. I think this particular mechanic is good and knows what he is doing. Since at 2nd day, both of my issue still has not appear (maybe window silicon not dry yet, will see 1 week later sound appear or not).

If issue really not appear again after a while, I'm going mark him and ask for him if I got complain...


Added on August 25, 2011, 11:19 pm
QUOTE(xandras @ Aug 25 2011, 11:13 PM)
Fake nevermind.. RECYCLED engine oil.. doh.gif imagine all the debris & metal shards from used engine oil pouring into ur engine.. shakehead.gif
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Nowadays, they have the tech to clean debris and metal shard out from the lube to make it look as clean as original. So I don't think need to worry abt the debris. In such case, the worry is totally ZERO addictives. No anti-wear, not rust protection, no contaminant suspension (keeping debris apart), VI worn out so oil no viscosity change, no cold protection. Can imagine the damage even if use once for a few K mileage. If lucky, damage only, engine still runs...some have to do overhaul and changed damaged part becoz of it.

This post has been edited by Cavino: Aug 25 2011, 11:19 PM
TSxandras
post Aug 25 2011, 11:20 PM

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QUOTE(Cavino @ Aug 25 2011, 11:14 PM)
Engine oil are quite corrosive. Putting in thin grade 1 mineral bottle, I'm afraid of chemical seeping into the oil itself. So the best way is still mark the level at apx 0.25 liter oil at the bottle, pour oil until hit that line.

Just check the level this morning, abt 2-3mm above max, so I guess the mechanic DID pour only 3.8 liter. I think this particular mechanic is good and knows what he is doing. Since at 2nd day, both of my issue still has not appear (maybe window silicon not dry yet, will see 1 week later sound appear or not).

If issue really not appear again after a while, I'm going mark him and ask for him if I got complain...
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For a while oni nevermind mah.. They sure return ur bottle by the time they finish service.. Then pour it back in lor.. Sometimes mechanic very stubborn wan.. U tell them not to do they die die also wanna do it.. And they always assume that we drivers don't know anything..


Added on August 25, 2011, 11:22 pmStill.. As u said.. Recycled engine oil already lost all the additives & stuffs.. And these guys are the same people who want to make money only.. They'll do anything to cut cost lah..

This post has been edited by xandras: Aug 25 2011, 11:22 PM
dorinyeah
post Aug 26 2011, 12:09 AM

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QUOTE(xandras @ Aug 25 2011, 11:13 PM)
Heavy footed hor u? 150 KM/h sweat.gif Go where la? Now a lot speed trap la. Better be careful.
Can.. But u must be careful not to always high rev with 0w-30 lube, and to make sure u service ur car on time.. Or else can say bye bye to ur pistons etc. in a year or two.
Wth? This thread ah... doh.gif really covers everything from car to chicks to money making business to food...
Do lah.. U got the balls & most importantly, the moneyflies.gif
Depends on how hard u drive & brake lo. U wanna bed it in within a day also possible.
Fake nevermind.. RECYCLED engine oil.. doh.gif imagine all the debris & metal shards from used engine oil pouring into ur engine.. shakehead.gif
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no choice lor... tat time rushing from PJ uptown to bahau, use nkve go PLUS exit senawang...all the way 140-150.
then night from bahau back KL use Lekas also all the way 150km/h....
after saw the speed trap post i doh.gif , hopefully tat time their baru buka puasa not free to snap my leng chai photo la... icon_question.gif

QUOTE(Cavino @ Aug 25 2011, 11:14 PM)
Engine oil are quite corrosive. Putting in thin grade 1 mineral bottle, I'm afraid of chemical seeping into the oil itself. So the best way is still mark the level at apx 0.25 liter oil at the bottle, pour oil until hit that line.

Just check the level this morning, abt 2-3mm above max, so I guess the mechanic DID pour only 3.8 liter. I think this particular mechanic is good and knows what he is doing. Since at 2nd day, both of my issue still has not appear (maybe window silicon not dry yet, will see 1 week later sound appear or not).

If issue really not appear again after a while, I'm going mark him and ask for him if I got complain...


Added on August 25, 2011, 11:19 pm

Nowadays, they have the tech to clean debris and metal shard out from the lube to make it look as clean as original. So I don't think need to worry abt the debris. In such case, the worry is totally ZERO addictives. No anti-wear, not rust protection, no contaminant suspension (keeping debris apart), VI worn out so oil no viscosity change, no cold protection. Can imagine the damage even if use once for a few K mileage. If lucky, damage only, engine still runs...some have to do overhaul and changed damaged part becoz of it.
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can i use a glass bottle keep tat 0.25L??
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post Aug 26 2011, 12:11 AM

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"Depends on how hard u drive & brake lo. U wanna bed it in within a day also possible."


Actually how to do bed in? I only normal drive only.
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post Aug 26 2011, 12:19 AM

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QUOTE(dorinyeah @ Aug 26 2011, 12:09 AM)
no choice lor... tat time rushing from PJ uptown to bahau, use nkve go PLUS exit senawang...all the way 140-150.
then night from bahau back KL use Lekas also all the way 150km/h....
after saw the speed trap post i  doh.gif , hopefully tat time their baru buka puasa not free to snap my leng chai photo la... icon_question.gif
can i use a glass bottle keep tat 0.25L??
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Haha.. Chill chill.. Dun speed lah now festive season..

Go Bahau find ckt ka? ph34r.gif

QUOTE(roy2005 @ Aug 26 2011, 12:11 AM)
"Depends on how hard u drive & brake lo. U wanna bed it in within a day also possible."
Actually how to do bed in? I only normal drive only.
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By braking lo. laugh.gif actually u can try to do some hard braking from 80-20km/h.. Do this a few times can d.. The brake pads will form a layer of compound on the brake discs.. Then ur brake will be better by then.


Added on August 26, 2011, 12:24 amOk guys.. Wanna go sleep d.. Damn tired & worn out today.. brows.gif cheong till half dead d..

This post has been edited by xandras: Aug 26 2011, 12:24 AM
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post Aug 26 2011, 12:28 AM

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QUOTE(xandras @ Aug 26 2011, 12:19 AM)
By braking lo. laugh.gif actually u can try to do some hard braking from 80-20km/h.. Do this a few times can d.. The brake pads will form a layer of compound on the brake discs.. Then ur brake will be better by then.


Added on August 26, 2011, 12:24 amOk guys.. Wanna go sleep d.. Damn tired & worn out today.. brows.gif cheong till half dead d..
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Heard the word "bed", make people sleepy.
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post Aug 26 2011, 01:13 AM

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QUOTE(Cavino @ Aug 25 2011, 11:05 PM)
On leave today, spend whole day out till now.

Weight 30 on borderline maybe ok, maybe not, can always try then see 1 or 2 years later engine need to change or not. I also don't know, so why risk it to save some FC. Not worth the price of engine. Last time i say if use weight 20, SURE 1 year later need to upgrade engine to CPS version. As Zen mentioned a few times, our engines are long stroke engine (whatever that means), high rev, higher heat generation requires at least weight 40 to be safe.

CPS uses weight 30, but its designed might have lower the heat generated by engine, so not as hot as original non CPS version.

As for recommended engine oil.....really no recommended wan, I do know even if 2 PE using same lube, they might produce slightly different result. Most swear by semi syn Castrol Magnatec. Shell they say get black fast no good (thats misconception, get black fast might also mean lube doing of of its function to clean engine and suspend contaminants). Unless car lose power before 5K change, I would say lube still working very well....as long as its still dark brown and transparent, not superblack.

Personally, I think most branded lube also ok, just don't use China-branded wan unless you're very sure of its quality and qc. Avoid buying branded popular lube in any spare part shops unless you're VERY familiar of the shops trustworthiness...coz the most damage any brand of lube can do is FAKE brand.
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let me be the 1st tikus to try on the 30 weight engine oil... sweat.gif


Added on August 26, 2011, 1:14 am
QUOTE(dorinyeah @ Aug 26 2011, 12:09 AM)
no choice lor... tat time rushing from PJ uptown to bahau, use nkve go PLUS exit senawang...all the way 140-150.
then night from bahau back KL use Lekas also all the way 150km/h....
after saw the speed trap post i  doh.gif , hopefully tat time their baru buka puasa not free to snap my leng chai photo la... icon_question.gif
can i use a glass bottle keep tat 0.25L??
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bahau which area?

This post has been edited by jackyap84: Aug 26 2011, 01:14 AM
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post Aug 26 2011, 01:35 AM

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QUOTE(Cavino @ Aug 25 2011, 11:05 PM)
On leave today, spend whole day out till now.

Weight 30 on borderline maybe ok, maybe not, can always try then see 1 or 2 years later engine need to change or not. I also don't know, so why risk it to save some FC. Not worth the price of engine. Last time i say if use weight 20, SURE 1 year later need to upgrade engine to CPS version. As Zen mentioned a few times, our engines are long stroke engine (whatever that means), high rev, higher heat generation requires at least weight 40 to be safe.

CPS uses weight 30, but its designed might have lower the heat generated by engine, so not as hot as original non CPS version.

As for recommended engine oil.....really no recommended wan, I do know even if 2 PE using same lube, they might produce slightly different result. Most swear by semi syn Castrol Magnatec. Shell they say get black fast no good (thats misconception, get black fast might also mean lube doing of of its function to clean engine and suspend contaminants). Unless car lose power before 5K change, I would say lube still working very well....as long as its still dark brown and transparent, not superblack.

Personally, I think most branded lube also ok, just don't use China-branded wan unless you're very sure of its quality and qc. Avoid buying branded popular lube in any spare part shops unless you're VERY familiar of the shops trustworthiness...coz the most damage any brand of lube can do is FAKE brand.
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i snap a photo to let u see if the lube is considered black or cannot use already 2moro. do help me to clarify smile.gif
since my SC dont allow bring own lube, so i might stay with petronas. i wonder if i insist using other brand wat will they say.
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QUOTE(jackyap84 @ Aug 26 2011, 01:13 AM)
let me be the 1st tikus to try on the 30 weight engine oil...  sweat.gif


Added on August 26, 2011, 1:14 am

bahau which area?
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near the bandar puteri there...u from bahau also?
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post Aug 26 2011, 08:46 AM

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yawn.gif morning

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post Aug 26 2011, 08:48 AM

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QUOTE(ngeo88 @ Aug 26 2011, 08:46 AM)
yawn.gif morning
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TGIF. rclxm9.gif
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QUOTE(vccy @ Aug 25 2011, 07:49 PM)
is it when is your last service? I just service my car last week oh. Use own lub and auto oil lagi. oil filter also own bring. hmm.gif
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My last service was around March this year. They don't allow to bring in lube. I serviced my gf's BLM last week.
They still say the same thing.

At first I was skeptical about Petronas Syntium 3000. So I have no choice that time and just let them pour in.
Now at 8k km mileage, I would say it's good. No power loss and engine is quiet. Much like Castrol Egde.
I might try Syntium 5000 0w-40 next service biggrin.gif

Btw, morning! biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(shakku @ Aug 26 2011, 09:59 AM)
My last service was around March this year. They don't allow to bring in lube. I serviced my gf's BLM last week.
They still say the same thing.

At first I was skeptical about Petronas Syntium 3000. So I have no choice that time and just let them pour in.
Now at 8k km mileage, I would say it's good. No power loss and engine is quiet. Much like Castrol Egde.
I might try Syntium 5000 0w-40 next service biggrin.gif

Btw, morning! biggrin.gif
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I see. I am still use the lub that i bring myself. My Mileage already 45k. I service at there since first 5000K until now. I am using my own lub (castro magnetec ) since that day. I dono why thy don allow you la. but the service there are good. Maybe next time when can service together? laugh.gif

I am sorry but are you celebrating Hari Raya? biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(Fubar20 @ Aug 26 2011, 08:48 AM)
TGIF. rclxm9.gif
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especially it was the friday before long holiday.. rclxms.gif
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QUOTE(ngeo88 @ Aug 26 2011, 09:15 AM)
especially it was the friday before long holiday.. rclxms.gif
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Wah! So good ah. Still have work on next Monday and Friday. Stupid company. mad.gif
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QUOTE(vccy @ Aug 26 2011, 09:10 AM)
I see. I am still use the lub that i bring myself. My Mileage already 45k. I service at there since first 5000K until now. I am using my own lub (castro magnetec ) since that day. I dono why thy don allow you la. but the service there are good. Maybe next time when can service together? laugh.gif

I am sorry but are you celebrating Hari Raya? biggrin.gif
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Nop not celebrating smile.gif I went there since I got my car. 28K now tongue.gif
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post Aug 26 2011, 09:21 AM

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QUOTE(shakku @ Aug 26 2011, 08:59 AM)
My last service was around March this year. They don't allow to bring in lube. I serviced my gf's BLM last week.
They still say the same thing.

At first I was skeptical about Petronas Syntium 3000. So I have no choice that time and just let them pour in.
Now at 8k km mileage, I would say it's good. No power loss and engine is quiet. Much like Castrol Egde.
I might try Syntium 5000 0w-40 next service biggrin.gif

Btw, morning! biggrin.gif
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Seriously Petronas oil is good just because the price are expansive, non of us here siad Petronas oil no good at all it is better than Shell oil. Petronas petrol just feel like not suitable for Campro, it was fuel saving petrol but no power when use it for Campro, anyway it is still better than Shell not saving and no power.


Added on August 26, 2011, 9:27 am
QUOTE(Fubar20 @ Aug 26 2011, 09:19 AM)
Wah! So good ah. Still have work on next Monday and Friday. Stupid company.  mad.gif
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yah but not for me i work on monday and friday too mad.gif tue, wed, thu no work but standby on call sad.gif

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QUOTE(shakku @ Aug 26 2011, 10:20 AM)
Nop not celebrating  smile.gif I went there since I got my car. 28K now tongue.gif
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Oh i see. If raya go time we can TT lo. so what have you mod to you car?

QUOTE(ngeo88 @ Aug 26 2011, 10:21 AM)
Seriously Petronas oil is good just because the price are expansive, non of us here siad Petronas oil no good at all it is better than Shell oil. Petronas petrol just feel like not suitable for Campro, it was fuel saving petrol but no power when use it for Campro, anyway it is still better than Shell not saving and no power.


Added on August 26, 2011, 9:27 am
yah but not for me i work on monday and friday too mad.gif  tue, wed, thu no work but standby on call  sad.gif
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Yeah petronas oil are good but the price is expensive. That why i got lub from my supplier friend. laugh.gif

Fren now is muslim celebrate raya ma, we Chinese have to replace their place ma. When Chinese New Year the muslim replace your place lo. Sama-sama la. icon_rolleyes.gif

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