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post Aug 16 2011, 11:14 PM, updated 15y ago

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LYN Official Proton Persona Owners Club and support thread V22!!

PPLYNC

Persona celebrating TWENTY-TWO threads of awesomeness!!

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IMPORTANT ANNOUNCEMENT!!


MEGA TT 6.0
Date: 16th September 2011
Time: 8pm onwards.
Meetup Place: Parking in front of Pappa Rich Rampai Business Court, then convoy up Genting.
GPS Coordinate: 3.198985, 101.727680

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Guys, it's been a while since we had a proper TT (last PROPER TT that we had was Mega TT V5.0 on the 14th May 2011 at Kayu Nasi Kandar, Aman Suria.), so I thought it might be a good idea to organize another TT on the 16th of September. It's a Friday and a public holiday, shouldn't be much of a problem for members to attend if they really want to and have the heart to do so.

What I meant by a proper TT? To be honest, we've had dozens of TTs and mini TTs, but new members rarely show up. It's as if their existence is purely fictional and they live only in the thread. The aim of this TT is to meet new members, share more knowledge about our dear Personas and have fun. Do not be intimidated by the use of English in this thread as we're a multi-racial community that speaks all sorts of language & dialects during TTs. (English, Malay, Cantonese, Hokkien, Mandarin, you name it.. I can speak Russian as well if you want me to. wink.gif)

What are we going to do during the TT? Well the plan is actually to meet up at the parking lot by 8PM, and then we'll drive and bring our TT to Genting Highlands. Expecting around 10+ members to join this TT, but if it's less than that it's fine also.

Please RSVP for those who are coming!!

Attendees:

1. xandras - 1 car genting
2. ZenGTMM - 1 car genting
3. unknownhammie - 1 car genting
4. zapdos9
5. K.Lee - 1 car genting
6. samwongjyhhorng - 1 car genting
7. abong8
8. shelby_yong
9. UnTiDy_PeRsoNA
10. kiatsim86 - 1 car genting
11. ckdenion
12. pupumaru - 1 car genting
13. Fubar20 - 1 car genting
14. jasontantenghuat - 1 car genting
15. ngeo88 - 1 car genting

New members are welcomed with open arms.. thumbup.gif
Awesome.. Now got 15 members ady.. Finally for the first TT we meet quota.. haha..

I have some suggestions to make here.. Since this TT is gonna be quite big this time.. I don't quite want it to be a sosej-fest just like how the previous TTs used to be. And since our only female member (phythia79) is no longer active (how sad), this never-ending chain of gay parade will never ever cease to exist.

The point that I'm trying to illustrate here is.. Bring ur chicks along!! smile.gif try to bring ur gfs or friends along if possible.. This TT is open to all, & of course.. The more the merrier.. What do u guys think about this? Feedbacks pls smile.gif

TO ALL FELLOW PPLYNC MEMBERS WHO ARE DRIVING PERSONA ELEGANCE:

If you have ever experienced sounds (tak tak tak tak tak) coming from your engine during cold start in the morning, then it MAY BE one of the infamous Proton's manufacturing defect: the IAFM problem. IAFM noise is most noticeable during cold start, and you may hear the frequency of the noise going up or down depending on the RPM that the engine is running at. The noise is identical to a diesel truck or lorry's engine idling noise. Once the engine has warmed up, the noise will become softer or totally eliminated. This is because the plastic components on one of the valves on IAFM expands with heat. Below is a video of a member's car with IAFM problem.



So far the problems that may be associated with IAFM noise are nothing major, but in certain cases it may cause severe throttle lag, and the noise may get louder over time. Some owners have even experienced increase in fuel consumption and bad engine response.

If you visit the service centre and the mechanic or service attendant tells you that the noise is not caused by IAFM as our Persona Elegance comes with new batch of IAFM modules, DO NOT believe what they said.

You may:
1.) Ask them to diagnose and tell you what exactly is the problem since they insisted that it's not IAFM module noise.
2.) If the mechanics at CoSE tell you that the noise is not caused by IAFM, go to a few different SCs, have them to check your IAFM module for imperfections on the valve, then get them to write a report each. Compile these reports & bring it to CoSE's customer service and file a complaint, give it to their higher authority.

Now, do remember that they may not be able to figure the noise out if you send your car to SC as the engine has already warmed up. Park your car and leave it there for an hour or so for the engine to cool down, then get the service attendant or mechanic to listen to the noise as you start the engine.

Again, I would like to stress on this main point as I've experienced this myself and wasted almost a month plus before sending it to a different SC just to have the noise diagnosed as IAFM problem; If the guys at CoSE tells you that it's not IAFM problem but your guts and 13 other SCs tell u that it is, then it IS IAFM problem. In my case they never even bothered to check as the engine has already warmed up and the sound was gone by the time the mechanic laid his hands on my car.

This serves as an important announcement to all Persona Elegance (PE) owners as to not overlook this small issue that may lead to greater problems in the future. The price of IAFM modules has dropped since year 2009 (from RM 1200+ in late 2008 to RM 2xx in 2011) because of the frequency of Campro IAFM engines having this problem. Still, it's our right to claim the IAFM modules as they are covered under warranty and malfunctioned units are manufacturing defects. We should not wait till the warranty period is over and then pay them RM300+ including labour to fix a defect that is there from day 1 of ownership of the car itself.

I hope all the Persona Elegance owners out there take note of this issue and do not keep an eye closed.

Salam 1 Malaysia, & Harap Maklum.

Photos From Recent TTs
TT 4.0 - Genting Highlands.
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Studio shots of the New Persona Elegance (PE)
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Proton Persona Promotional Video
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Previous Threads V1-V21
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Proudly a Proton Persona Owner
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253 Members and Growing!!! Mega TT will be fun if all 253 Members show up!!

For those who just received their Persona, Congratulations & Welcome to PPLYNC!! Please PM ME or POST in this thread stating that u are a new owner to update you name into the list.


Car Service & Preventive Maintenance Schedule and Pricing
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Price of Proton Parts
Proton Parts Cost

Recommended SC

1)Serdang SC - http://worldcarcare.com.my/WorldCarCare.html
Reasons: Best customer service in all reviews, allows you to bring own lube.

2) CoSE (beside Kesas) - Head towards Klang on Kesas and you will pass by the biggest Proton billboard you'll ever see. Thats the place.
Proton Center of Excellence (CoSE),
Jalan TP 5, Taman Perindustrian Sime Uep, 47600 Subang Jaya, Selangor, Malaysia
Tel: 03-80269333
Tel2: 03-80269167
Fax: 03-80269155
HQ, easy to claim warranty and reflash ECU. Have to make appointment b4 going there. Can bring own Lube

3) Juru SC (Penang) - Can bring own lube.

4) Trend point - Along Jalan Tun Razak. (Still under review, first review was bad, but a warranty claim experience after that shows that they're quite efficient and able to detect problems that even CoSE denies.)

Unrecommended SC (TRY TO AVOID AT ALL COST!)

1) Sin Siang Hin sdn. bhd. at genting klang n gombak - bad service and they whack ur car like they pay for petrol
2) Senaxis Sdn Bhd No. 50, Jalan SS26/ 11, Taman Mayang Jaya, Petaling Jaya, 47301 SELANGOR Tel: 012-3283123 Fax: 03-78048753

Member's Review:
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Common Problem in Persona
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Tips for Persona Users (To be Updated)
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This post has been edited by xandras: Sep 7 2011, 10:06 PM
TSxandras
post Aug 16 2011, 11:21 PM

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QUOTE(K.Lee @ Aug 16 2011, 11:17 PM)
First
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Damn kiasu.. laugh.gif

QUOTE(ckdenion @ Aug 16 2011, 11:17 PM)
ok...then front grill must sacrifice lor... sad.gif
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Go for Gen2 CPS' bumper lah.. much nicer than R3's IMHO..
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post Aug 16 2011, 11:26 PM

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QUOTE(K.Lee @ Aug 16 2011, 11:23 PM)
dun la like that... first time leh...

i feel ori nicer...haha
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Virgin hor? brows.gif But true lah.. Ori bumper nicer.. I still prefer my car looking totally stock with hidden power inside to tapau ppl.. flex.gif

QUOTE(Dav6534 @ Aug 16 2011, 11:23 PM)
wow! im late but lucky still in the 1st page. xD . congrats on v22 too! =D
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laugh.gif Not too late.. Hahah..
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post Aug 16 2011, 11:29 PM

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QUOTE(ckdenion @ Aug 16 2011, 11:24 PM)
gen2 cps bumper include grill?
if so i will go for it then remove the stock skirting from the stock persona bumper n put it onto the gen2 cps bumper
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Yea.. Got grille of course.. But I'm not sure whether the stock skirting can fit Gen2 CPS bumper.. Can try lah..

QUOTE(MovingMachine @ Aug 16 2011, 11:24 PM)
My car rim nut is rusty. Does Proton 5 years anti rust cover that? hmm.gif
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sweat.gif No.. Just go change a set of security nuts..
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post Aug 16 2011, 11:34 PM

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QUOTE(K.Lee @ Aug 16 2011, 11:30 PM)
TS memang gatal tonight...

Our PE does look really good, i'll say it's the best looking proton ever.
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brows.gif Mating season ma..

If it's slightly lowered then it'll look even better.. Especially the rear..
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post Aug 17 2011, 12:30 AM

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QUOTE(kogula14 @ Aug 17 2011, 12:10 AM)
aiyo.. my car when i put song radio above 20 , my side windows got sound (like bergetar).... ish ish..
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U sure it's ur side window & not the handle near power window button? wink.gif
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post Aug 17 2011, 10:59 AM

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QUOTE(ychoong @ Aug 17 2011, 08:14 AM)
Wow, v22 ady, Xandras, when u organizing the next TT? Long time no c u guys ady....
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Haha.. The rest also not free..everytime wan tt Ada Ada je la their alasan not to come.. XD
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post Aug 17 2011, 12:35 PM

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QUOTE(unemployed @ Aug 17 2011, 12:24 PM)
tinting just finish...then heavy raining..switch on wiper vmad.gif ??
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What has ur tint gotta do with the wiper? The tint layer is on the inside, my dear.
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post Aug 17 2011, 12:38 PM

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QUOTE(jackyap84 @ Aug 17 2011, 09:36 AM)
ask u dont play inside the car de lor... haha...
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Let him be la.. Now puasa month samore.. If kena caught with 1 NL he sure a lot of prob wan.. brows.gif

Added on August 17, 2011, 12:39 pm
QUOTE(dadurtyz @ Aug 17 2011, 12:37 PM)
doh.gif  doh.gif did their tinted ur car from outside?
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Where got tint from outside wan.. doh.gif

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post Aug 17 2011, 12:45 PM

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QUOTE(dadurtyz @ Aug 17 2011, 12:41 PM)
sure lar, because that mang sigh to on wiper  biggrin.gif
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Thats why. At first I read also I blur. Can't see the connection between wiper & tint blink.gif
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post Aug 17 2011, 03:53 PM

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QUOTE(KKW @ Aug 17 2011, 03:42 PM)
Try go to any tire shop or accessories shop and ask them to check the battery you..
My car officially 2years old already.. rclxms.gif
No more warranty covered except those extended warranty  cry.gif
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Yea.. Or just go get one voltage reader lah.. Cheap cheap oni..

QUOTE(azeotrope @ Aug 17 2011, 03:44 PM)
u using the stock battery?
time to change man...
dun wanna get stuck when it died...  sad.gif
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Prepare jumper cable in car all the time lo.. whistling.gif useful during emergency, also useful to help chicks in emergency.. whistling.gif
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post Aug 17 2011, 04:40 PM

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QUOTE(azeotrope @ Aug 17 2011, 04:12 PM)
temporary solution only... though the helping damsel in distress is a proven way to get hooked up...   brows.gif
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brows.gif Biasa lah.. I hook up duno how many liao using this way.. whistling.gif

Added on August 17, 2011, 4:44 pmCLICK HERE!!

My future perspective job whistling.gif

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post Aug 17 2011, 05:02 PM

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QUOTE(dorinyeah @ Aug 17 2011, 04:53 PM)
my got lubang for this kind of job...
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laugh.gif I find it kinda funny the way u put it. This is the job with the most lubang u can find, no? brows.gif
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post Aug 17 2011, 08:10 PM

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QUOTE(samwongjyhhorng @ Aug 17 2011, 06:17 PM)
today went to my fren used car shop to chit chat..and i saw he got one waja gsr turbo manual for sell..then i ask him take me one round to test lo..the turbo feel reali syiok lo..after sat bec persona,langsung feel no power like kancil lo rclxub.gif
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laugh.gif Come lah.. I let u sit M3 1 time.. Then see whether u think NA or turbo nicer.. brows.gif

QUOTE(muslayer @ Aug 17 2011, 06:19 PM)
Of course shyiok... pay the petrol and maintainence more shyiok....
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5 thumbs up.. brows.gif thumbup.gif If only I got 5 thumbs.. Maintenance damn high, nid to change engine oil every 3k KMs to be safe. 3k KMs for me = less than 1 month. Every month change engine oil I ma pokai?

QUOTE(KKW @ Aug 17 2011, 07:46 PM)
Ps.. forget to type dry cell  shakehead.gif
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U forgot what they taught u in science back in high school ah? Sel kering sel basah.. brows.gif
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post Aug 17 2011, 08:17 PM

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QUOTE(KKW @ Aug 17 2011, 08:12 PM)
Lol.. you remind me something else  doh.gif
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blink.gif reminded u of what? sure something dirty wan.. u so dirty minded.. sweat.gif

Added on August 17, 2011, 8:21 pmD!u lor... 6967 came out special prize.. 6932 consolation, 2832 First prize.. All the numbers that I forgot to buy today came out... Fk!!! vmad.gif

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post Aug 17 2011, 08:44 PM

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QUOTE(KKW @ Aug 17 2011, 08:37 PM)
No la.. Form 3 science only  tongue.gif
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o.O Bab 3? laugh.gif

QUOTE(kogula14 @ Aug 17 2011, 08:38 PM)
Ok.. DONE. And no sound anymore. I ask what they did.. They told me that they insert sponge inside the internal hardware that control the windows hence no vibration noise when i increase the radio noise above 20... smile.gif

Even inserting a sponge is really not a professionalism solution, but i still feel ok the noise gone.. But not sure for how long it can tahan lor.. sad.gif
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See.. Told u it's coming from the area near the handle n around the power window buttons..
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post Aug 17 2011, 09:05 PM

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QUOTE(kogula14 @ Aug 17 2011, 08:52 PM)
OK.. Completed by 1st service at CoSE.

1) Really a bad day for me. The service advisory said alignment machine out of service and i need to go back on next week to do the alignment. He reduced my mileage (cheated in the service form) from actual value from 1300KM to 980KM to remain my free alignment service. (because free only below 1000km)

2) Fixed by realign behind seat.

3) Fixed by insert sponge.. sponge???  doh.gif

4) Its normal

I send my car at 9:30am and i got it at 3:00pm!! WTF.. but in the service form, my car was ready at 11:30am. I asked them why so late?? They couldn't give me proper answer. It's ok.. i also dont know what is the ETC for this type of services, so i just keep quite la. If next time same thing happen, i know already sumthing gone wrong.

I can say the service center is excellence. What i mean excellence is the processes. But, the problem is with some of sales advisory couldn't tell you your car updates properly and certain technician that not really do a good job. Like my case today, they delayed my car delivery which suppose return it at 11:30am  sad.gif (bad process and not in par with their QoS).

Anyway.. The process is there, it just that certain people doen't follow (sales advisory/technician) the processes. But so far im happy with overall services.

Keep track your car status every 2 hours.

Added on August 17, 2011, 9:00 pm
Thanks for the info.. It helps me to inform them (in case they really don't where the sound comes from). smile.gif
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laugh.gif Ur car is done at 11.30.. It's the invoice printing process, & their puasa breaks that are holding u from taking ur car.. Trust me.. Ur car can be done as early as 9am, but they can take until 1pm to print the invoice..

QUOTE(KKW @ Aug 17 2011, 09:01 PM)
Not chapter 3 meh?
Hahaha biggrin.gif
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o.O maybe he younger than us bab 4? o.O
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post Aug 17 2011, 09:08 PM

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QUOTE(Dav6534 @ Aug 17 2011, 09:06 PM)
my time is chapter 4 already. =O
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lols..They add new chapter ah..

Btw i just found out.. when it rains, the noisiest part is not the roof but the windscreen.. Especially the rear windscreen. The roof insulation is quite ok IMHO..
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post Aug 17 2011, 09:26 PM

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QUOTE(kogula14 @ Aug 17 2011, 09:23 PM)
Is the magnetrap is good? Cause they installed it in my car today which cost rm68 sad.gif
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blink.gif It's RM 68??
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post Aug 17 2011, 09:38 PM

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QUOTE(unemployed @ Aug 17 2011, 09:30 PM)
it was at night, and windscreen was foggy so as usual i rolled down my side mirror abit, use tissue wipe inside windscreen then gg leh
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aiya.. wind down a bit only nevermind wan lah... If ur windscreen is foggy just switch ur aircond to blow ur windscreen ma can lor.. doh.gif

QUOTE(Fubar20 @ Aug 17 2011, 09:33 PM)
ohmy.gif Another fella kena Magna Trap again.  doh.gif TS, please warn the other new members not to install the crap.
If not, this kind of story will happen again and again.

Normally, foggy is because the air inside is not chilled enough while the windscreen surface is cold.
Just on the air con and it will go away.
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doh.gif Aiyoyo... Must put in 1st post liao.. But i thought it's not RM 68...?

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QUOTE(unemployed @ Aug 17 2011, 09:30 PM)
it was at night, and windscreen was foggy so as usual i rolled down my side mirror abit, use tissue wipe inside windscreen then gg leh
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aiya.. wind down a bit only nevermind wan lah... If ur windscreen is foggy just switch ur aircond to blow ur windscreen ma can lor.. doh.gif

QUOTE(Fubar20 @ Aug 17 2011, 09:33 PM)
ohmy.gif Another fella kena Magna Trap again.  doh.gif TS, please warn the other new members not to install the crap.
If not, this kind of story will happen again and again.

Normally, foggy is because the air inside is not chilled enough while the windscreen surface is cold.
Just on the air con and it will go away.
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doh.gif Aiyoyo... Must put in 1st post liao.. But i thought it's not RM 68...?

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