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 -+♦+- LYN PROTON PERSONA CLUB V22 -+♦+-

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ZenGTMM
post Aug 24 2011, 04:10 AM

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QUOTE(xandras @ Aug 24 2011, 12:24 AM)
doh.gif No comments liao. U teach la ini. I can oni give basic instructions. brows.gif

U got eat balitong before? Or oyster? hmm.gif


Added on August 24, 2011, 12:25 am
Inspira FC &  PE on par lah.. our PE FC quite high leh if compare with other 1.5/1.6..

159 2.2 10L/100KMs doh.gif 3.2 12.9L/100KMs.

No need any words in the line above also... Numbers alone can scare the shiet out of me d.. laugh.gif
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But inspira not nice to drive.. PE much better.. Even the insulation also better.. Just the power is somewhat lacking.
samwongjyhhorng
post Aug 24 2011, 08:29 AM

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QUOTE(ZenGTMM @ Aug 24 2011, 04:10 AM)
But inspira not nice to drive.. PE much better.. Even the insulation also better.. Just the power is somewhat lacking.
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same as u lo..i oso feel the insulation of inspira was LPPL wit our PE lo..even my parents oso commented tcan hear tyre noise clearly when they sat at rear seat..and the steering feel too light and car will feel abit floating when crusing 140kmh above..
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post Aug 24 2011, 08:38 AM

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QUOTE(xandras @ Aug 24 2011, 01:06 AM)
It could be ur battery is not properly connected. As we all know our PE uses ignition coils, and ignition coils requires a constant current flow from the battery to the PCM to run. At any point where the circuit is interrupted or disconnected, the car engine will die off. But since u said that the air-con, radio was on, it could be a case of weak battery supplying insufficient current to the PCM. Ur best bet will be to check whether the car battery is properly connected and also if the battery is weak. It's safe to drive the car, but be aware that if ur battery disconnection is the case here, u may risk overloading all the electronic boards on ur car and fry them all.
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shouldnt the battery be connected parallel to the alternator? after engine start.... wouldnt most of the power supply come from the alternator?
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post Aug 24 2011, 09:19 AM

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QUOTE(khtee @ Aug 24 2011, 08:38 AM)
shouldnt the battery be connected parallel to the alternator? after engine start.... wouldnt most of the power  supply come from the alternator?
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yup but they all terminate at the battery terminal, one wire loose all also kena.


Added on August 24, 2011, 9:23 am
QUOTE(samwongjyhhorng @ Aug 23 2011, 09:54 PM)
slow slow do lo..then slowly feel difference lo..hehe


Added on August 23, 2011, 9:55 pm

no lah..R3 rim onli 16inch lo


Added on August 23, 2011, 9:57 pm

so u and ngeo still wan do 2gether?after i do it for chassis,i will buy another type foam from another seller..the seller mentioned tat type his sell is onli for a,b,c pillar..so i will DIY myself for a,b and c pillar.for under carriage was not suitable lo..so need do tis EA foam.one bottle is RM55
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drool.gif sam where you buy the spry foam, i have seen the thread before but i forget at what forum, seller also got teach how to spray inside the abc pillar with picture on the thread but realy can't recall at which forum liao....... sad.gif

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JynoRip
post Aug 24 2011, 09:26 AM

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V22 ~ im back !!! hello guyz ~!!! =)
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post Aug 24 2011, 09:33 AM

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QUOTE(ngeo88 @ Aug 24 2011, 09:19 AM)
yup but they all terminate at the battery terminal, one wire loose all also kena.


Added on August 24, 2011, 9:23 am
drool.gif sam where you buy the spry foam, i have seen the thread before but i forget at what forum, seller also got teach how to spray inside the abc pillar with picture on the thread but realy can't recall at which forum liao....... sad.gif
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unless .... our persona has some unique wiring design... alternator are suppose to be always parallel to the battery...
by parallel means .. both can act as power source... never tried this on my persona yet.. but in my old car... once the engine started...i can just unplug the wire (ground) from the battery (did it before .. to check whether is the alternator is working or not)
but i could be wrong tongue.gif
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post Aug 24 2011, 09:44 AM

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QUOTE(ZenGTMM @ Aug 24 2011, 04:10 AM)
But inspira not nice to drive.. PE much better.. Even the insulation also better.. Just the power is somewhat lacking.
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Agreed.. Probably because Proton cut cost here & there lah.. the 16 inch tyres somewhat feels too thick lah..

QUOTE(samwongjyhhorng @ Aug 24 2011, 08:29 AM)
same as u lo..i oso feel the insulation of inspira was LPPL wit our PE lo..even my parents oso commented tcan hear tyre noise clearly when they sat at rear seat..and the steering feel too light and car will feel abit floating when crusing 140kmh above..
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QUOTE(khtee @ Aug 24 2011, 08:38 AM)
shouldnt the battery be connected parallel to the alternator? after engine start.... wouldnt most of the power  supply come from the alternator?
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Yes, the battery is connected parallel to the alternator. If u understand how the battery works, then u'll know what I'm talking about.

In a car, the battery merely provides power to start the car & power the accessories such as lights, radio, etc when the engine is off. Like what u just said, after the engine has started, the alternator provides most of the power needed for the car. But the lesser known fact is that the battery completes the circuit, and it acts as a large transistor to absorb and regulate current spikes from the alternator. The current provided by the alternator is not consistent (think of how ur headlights dim when the compressor kicks in), and so the battery smoothens this out. Irregular power surges, as we know, are bad for electronic boards in the car (ignition coil, ECU, radio, etc). If the general electrical load on the car is more than the alternator output (more than 50 amps), the car engine will stall. The best example that I could think of is the compressor which uses quite a lot of power to run. When the compressor starts running, ur RPM drops a little, then goes back up to the normal idling RPM. Which is exactly why I wouldn't recommend installing a LCP that's too light or small as it may reduce the alternator's ability.

The PCM (Powertrain Control Module) draws power from the battery rather than alternator. If the battery is weak or faulty or the connectors are loose, the PCM may not be able to draw a constant power to the ignition coils, which explains the engine dieing off in the middle of the road. Although in that particular member's case I don't deny the possibility of a faulty PCM.


Added on August 24, 2011, 9:49 am
QUOTE(JynoRip @ Aug 24 2011, 09:26 AM)
V22 ~ im back !!! hello guyz ~!!! =)
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Finally come back liao? vmad.gif U go cheonging where lah till ignore this thread for so long?

QUOTE(khtee @ Aug 24 2011, 09:33 AM)
unless .... our persona has some unique wiring design... alternator are suppose to be always parallel to the battery...
by parallel means .. both can act as power source... never tried this on my persona yet.. but in my old car... once the engine started...i can just unplug the wire (ground) from the battery (did it before .. to check whether is the alternator is working or not)
but i could be wrong tongue.gif
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Do not ever do that with PE if u're not willing to spend money to replace crucial e-boards on ur car.

This post has been edited by xandras: Aug 24 2011, 09:49 AM
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post Aug 24 2011, 09:50 AM

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QUOTE(ZenGTMM @ Aug 24 2011, 12:18 AM)
Cant afford to pay for the petrol lah.. 2.0 somemore.. Better let my mom use and mod it for me first.. When i start working full time then i take that car.
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Zeng, seriously... that car belong to u? tongue.gif
TSxandras
post Aug 24 2011, 09:51 AM

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QUOTE(jackyap84 @ Aug 24 2011, 09:50 AM)
Zeng, seriously... that car belong to u? tongue.gif
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sweat.gif He talk cock oni la cannot afford petrol. If he can afford 3 car loans u think petrol will be an issue meh.. sweat.gif
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QUOTE(xandras @ Aug 24 2011, 09:51 AM)
sweat.gif He talk cock oni la cannot afford petrol. If he can afford 3 car loans u think petrol will be an issue meh.. sweat.gif
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correct also hor... talking cock...
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post Aug 24 2011, 09:58 AM

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QUOTE(jackyap84 @ Aug 24 2011, 09:53 AM)
correct also hor... talking cock...
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Where the hell is the Talk Cock King? hmm.gif
TSxandras
post Aug 24 2011, 10:00 AM

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QUOTE(Fubar20 @ Aug 24 2011, 09:58 AM)
Where the hell is the Talk Cock King?  hmm.gif
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Duno. After TT no see him active till now. blink.gif
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QUOTE(xandras @ Aug 24 2011, 10:00 AM)
Duno. After TT no see him active till now. blink.gif
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Maybe after seeing the regular faces, scared to talk cock oredi. laugh.gif
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post Aug 24 2011, 10:06 AM

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QUOTE(Fubar20 @ Aug 24 2011, 10:04 AM)
Maybe after seeing the regular faces, scared to talk cock oredi.  laugh.gif
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post Aug 24 2011, 10:15 AM

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QUOTE(jasonloh7906 @ Aug 24 2011, 01:36 AM)
no lah. normally wont more than that. but tried once before. the oil is as mentioned by the oil man is dark and not transparent. but sometimes when most of the time drive really slow, the engine oil still look good at 6k.
btw, my SC timed my oil change interval every 7k. so not sure about void warranty lah. previously they timed my oil change every 5k. after that they changed it to 7k. dunno why. of course i will change the engine oil at the correct time also when the time and the budget permits lah. sometimes is like i am travelling far, so only when i come back i service my car. the best balance of comfort and performance will be?? so comparing high rev and low rev, is it the same when u dun change engine oil at the correct or given mileage?? for example, if always high rev the car but change at every 5k and always drive slow and steady but change the oil only at 7k and 8k.

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I know many mechanics use 7K lube change schedule for semi and 10K for fs. The last time when I change FS, my mechanic use 10K as next schedule. Then I ask him, he say expensive, so schedule longer. Then I ask him, how long he use FS for his own car and his best schedule change, 5K......***....he himself say 5K as fs actually last only as long as mineral but in order to avoid customer relunctant to use FS....extend lor....

So for semi, try not to exceed 5K service schedule. FS better 5K also but if no money, then 7K max, tho I advise if really no money, use either semi or mineral at service at 5K. Garantee no worries on having black non transparent oil issue.

Also note the blacky stuff is abt contaminant, addictives is still wearing out early.

2ndly, if you always got start in start/stop traffic, should change at 5K coz idling or slow speed, mileage not moving much but engine still goes on. Thus highway runs guys usually have cleaner engine than city drive guys at same milaege.
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post Aug 24 2011, 10:16 AM

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QUOTE(ngeo88 @ Aug 24 2011, 09:19 AM)
yup but they all terminate at the battery terminal, one wire loose all also kena.


Added on August 24, 2011, 9:23 am
drool.gif sam where you buy the spry foam, i have seen the thread before but i forget at what forum, seller also got teach how to spray inside the abc pillar with picture on the thread but realy can't recall at which forum liao....... sad.gif
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cari forum..but muz be careful to do at a,b,and c pillar..bcoz v need take out the pillar cover and tis maybe will break the clip if din take out wit properly..tats why the EA foam seller din encourage me to do it..
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post Aug 24 2011, 10:18 AM

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QUOTE(Cavino @ Aug 24 2011, 10:15 AM)
I know many mechanics use 7K lube change schedule for semi and 10K for fs. The last time when I change FS, my mechanic use 10K as next schedule. Then I ask him, he say expensive, so schedule longer. Then I ask him, how long he use FS for his own car and his best schedule change, 5K......***....he himself say 5K as fs actually last only as long as mineral but in order to avoid customer relunctant to use FS....extend lor....

So for semi, try not to exceed 5K service schedule. FS better 5K also but if no money, then 7K max, tho I advise if really no money, use either semi or mineral at service at 5K. Garantee no worries on having black non transparent oil issue.

Also note the blacky stuff is abt contaminant, addictives is still wearing out early.

2ndly, if you always got start in start/stop traffic, should change at 5K coz idling or slow speed, mileage not moving much but engine still goes on. Thus highway runs guys usually have cleaner engine than city drive guys at same milaege.
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Minyak man online again.. flex.gif

QUOTE(samwongjyhhorng @ Aug 24 2011, 10:16 AM)
cari forum..but muz be careful to do at a,b,and c pillar..bcoz v need take out the pillar cover and tis maybe will break the clip if din take out wit properly..tats why the EA foam seller din encourage me to do it..
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U gotta be a real noob to break the clips sweat.gif If u're delicate u wont break it lah..
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post Aug 24 2011, 10:27 AM

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Darn sien, at CoSE now. Now CoSE implement Streamyx Zone with timed login. If no own ID and use its free internet, have to login once every 1 minute or so.

Everytime type 1 post and add reply, kena jump to login screen and then have to retype again (have to copy and paste before pressing add reply, if not lost type post).

Playing game lagi cialat, every 1 minute hang, then have to login on another screen, then continue again...
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post Aug 24 2011, 10:33 AM

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QUOTE(Cavino @ Aug 24 2011, 10:27 AM)
Darn sien, at CoSE now. Now CoSE implement Streamyx Zone with timed login. If no own ID and use its free internet, have to login once every 1 minute or so.

Everytime type 1 post and add reply, kena jump to login screen and then have to retype again (have to copy and paste before pressing add reply, if not lost type post).

Playing game lagi cialat, every  1 minute hang, then have to login on another screen, then continue again...
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So fast ur car due for service again liao? How many KMs?
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QUOTE(xandras @ Aug 24 2011, 10:33 AM)
So fast ur car due for service again liao? How many KMs?
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Should be 5k. He bought his car later than me.

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