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 AMD ATHLON XP (DESKTOP BARTON) - SPEEDRANKING, ALL, Unlock? Problems? Ocability? Settings?

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post Feb 24 2005, 01:38 AM

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QUOTE(davidletterboyz @ Feb 23 2005, 10:52 PM)
tone, I just saw that CPU-Z says yours r mobile. But flowerh's one is not mobile. It will say "CPU unknow". Without the 'n' at the end.
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mine same as flowerh .. i use tictac mantaray bios (change unknow cpu to mobile)
barton desktop core (pink colour core) biggrin.gif

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post Feb 24 2005, 01:40 AM

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QUOTE(tone @ Feb 24 2005, 01:38 AM)
mine same as flowerh .. i use tictac mantaray bios (change unknow cpu to mobile)
barton desktop core (pink colour core) biggrin.gif

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Can you show me the full stepping including the long numbers? Wanna compare with my friend's. tongue.gif
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post Feb 24 2005, 09:08 AM

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hello...may i ask where to dl SP2004 notworthy.gif notworthy.gif

i only have the super pi solfware...anyone can let me know where to dl so that i can run it and postat here again? notworthy.gif notworthy.gif

and about the temp...i am using air cool...but in air-con room...is it ok?


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post Feb 24 2005, 09:09 AM

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hello...may i ask where to dl SP2004 notworthy.gif notworthy.gif

i only have the super pi solfware...anyone can let me know where to dl so that i can run it and postat here again? notworthy.gif notworthy.gif

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dload it here..
http://sp2004.fre3.com/download.htm
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post Feb 24 2005, 11:11 AM

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SUPERLOCKED!!! AXP 2500+ (AQYFA0343XPMW) ON STOCK COOLING - 1.65V.
256MB X 2 BT-D43 - 2.9V
DFI UI - NB - 1.8V
300W PSU CAP NAGA!!!

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post Feb 25 2005, 11:57 PM

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QUOTE(davidletterboyz @ Feb 24 2005, 01:40 AM)
Can you show me the full stepping including the long numbers? Wanna compare with my friend's. tongue.gif
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i didnt write down the full specs...sorry le..dont want to take out the heatsink le..


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post Feb 26 2005, 02:58 AM

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QUOTE(davidletterboyz @ Feb 23 2005, 10:52 PM)
tone, I just saw that CPU-Z says yours r mobile. But flowerh's one is not mobile. It will say "Unknown CPU typ". Without the 'e' at the end.
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It depends on the bios. If the mobile micro codes is inside the bios, it will show as a mobile processor.




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post Feb 26 2005, 03:52 AM

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QUOTE(flyboi @ Feb 26 2005, 02:58 AM)
It depends on the bios. If the mobile micro codes is inside the bios, it will show as a mobile processor.
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Yeah Actually, AFAIK there is no official BIOS that really recognize Desktop Replacement Barton. The string is different from mobile barton.
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post Feb 28 2005, 03:06 PM

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Guys, i tried pusing the FSB to 210MHz, but it won't get into Windows. Then i tried lower it down a little to 205MHz, it boot into Windows but Prime fails. It won't go any above 200MHz no matter how much i up the Vcore and Vdimm. I'm using (1:1) for CPU/RAM ratio and running Dual Channel.

So, is my RAM limitting it or my processor had reached the limit of 200FSB?

Btw, i've tried running benchmark for Single Channel and Dual Channel, i found that no difference at all. Both give similar score. And my DDR400 RAM score for PCMark04 even lower alot than my friend's 1x 512MB KVR DDR333. I was thinking that my RAM are the cause that limit my processor's FSB to go further? Need opinions and advice !!! Thanks
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QUOTE(sOuNdStOrM @ Feb 28 2005, 03:06 PM)
Guys, i tried pusing the FSB to 210MHz, but it won't get into Windows. Then i tried lower it down a little to 205MHz, it boot into Windows but Prime fails. It won't go any above 200MHz no matter how much i up the Vcore and Vdimm. I'm using (1:1) for CPU/RAM ratio and running Dual Channel.

So, is my RAM limitting it or my processor had reached the limit of 200FSB?

Btw, i've tried running benchmark for Single Channel and Dual Channel, i found that no difference at all. Both give similar score. And my DDR400 RAM score for PCMark04 even lower alot than my friend's 1x 512MB KVR DDR333. I was thinking that my RAM are the cause that limit my processor's FSB to go further? Need opinions and advice !!! Thanks
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Have you tried raising the Vdd? 1.8v might not be enuf for NF7-S.
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QUOTE(bwan @ Feb 28 2005, 03:17 PM)
Have you tried raising the Vdd? 1.8v might not be enuf for NF7-S.
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My default Vcore is 1.65v while Vdimm is 2.65v. I've increase Vcore to 1.85v and Vdimm at 2.9v. With that, still i can't get stable at 205MHz. Due to RAM problem? Any Barton 2800+ user here that can go above 200MHz?
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post Feb 28 2005, 09:47 PM

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QUOTE(sOuNdStOrM @ Feb 28 2005, 03:26 PM)
My default Vcore is 1.65v while Vdimm is 2.65v. I've increase Vcore to 1.85v and Vdimm at 2.9v. With that, still i can't get stable at 205MHz. Due to RAM problem? Any Barton 2800+ user here that can go above 200MHz?
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what is ur temp ?
what is ur stock multi,fsb & speed?
what Ram chip on ur Kingston? D43? D43 can run at 250Mhz @3-3-3-11 Timing..

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QUOTE(tone @ Feb 28 2005, 09:47 PM)
what is ur temp ?
what is ur stock multi,fsb & speed?
what Ram chip on ur Kingston? D43? D43 can run at 250Mhz @3-3-3-11 Timing..

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Stock Multiplier = 12.5
Stock FSB = 166MHz
Stock Speed = 2.083GHz

When running at 2500MHz (200x12.5), idle = 45c, full load = 53c; Prime stable

This is what i copy excatly from the RAM:

KVR400X64C3A/256
D3208D2 3T-5A
0448PT04

I'm currently using default timing, so what timing should i use?
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post Feb 28 2005, 10:11 PM

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looks like mosel chips
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QUOTE(soulfly @ Feb 28 2005, 10:11 PM)
looks like mosel chips
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Is that a bad news? sad.gif
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post Mar 3 2005, 12:36 AM

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My new CPU, same as tone's stepping. Using KT333 cry.gif, it primes fail at 12.5x166@1.4Vcore. sad.gif

Tone, can yours prime stable on that vcore and speed? just wondering....

EDIT: It's stable now. Don't know why....lol

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post Mar 3 2005, 09:53 AM

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Aiya man i don't know what is wrong now with this new mobo of mine.
this configuration seems to run the test fine but cant play longer than 15 min in whatever game then it hangs.

setup
barton 2500+
speed = 2420 mhz
fsb = 220
locked multi = 11
vcore = 1.7

2x256 Geil value blue with heat speader (from kevdaman)
ram = 1:1 (220)
volt = 2.85
timing = 2.5 3 3 7/11 (7 or 11 also hang)

It runs sp2004 for over 8 hours mo man tai.
Anything missing? i'm at a loss here.

increase the voltage for both to some insane amount and still cannot.
Temps are fine and well below 50 even.
damn....any help?
if i can get this working for playing games then i move on to 2.5 gig drool.gif
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QUOTE(jujuzombie @ Mar 3 2005, 09:53 AM)
Aiya man i don't know what is wrong now with this new mobo of mine.
this configuration seems to run the test fine but cant play longer than 15 min in whatever game then it hangs.

setup
barton 2500+
speed = 2420 mhz
fsb = 220
locked multi = 11
vcore = 1.7

2x256 Geil value blue with heat speader (from kevdaman)
ram = 1:1 (220)
volt = 2.85
timing = 2.5 3 3 7/11 (7 or 11 also hang)

It runs sp2004 for over 8 hours mo man tai.
Anything missing? i'm at a loss here.

increase the voltage for both to some insane amount and still cannot.
Temps are fine and well below 50 even.
damn....any help?
if i can get this working for playing games then i move on to 2.5 gig  drool.gif
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What mobo are u using? And what fan u're using? I using default Vcore, full load temp also reached 50c already sad.gif
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post Mar 3 2005, 10:59 AM

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QUOTE(jujuzombie @ Mar 3 2005, 09:53 AM)
Aiya man i don't know what is wrong now with this new mobo of mine.
this configuration seems to run the test fine but cant play longer than 15 min in whatever game then it hangs.

setup
barton 2500+
speed = 2420 mhz
fsb = 220
locked multi = 11
vcore = 1.7

2x256 Geil value blue with heat speader (from kevdaman)
ram = 1:1 (220)
volt = 2.85
timing = 2.5 3 3 7/11 (7 or 11 also hang)

It runs sp2004 for over 8 hours mo man tai.
Anything missing? i'm at a loss here.

increase the voltage for both to some insane amount and still cannot.
Temps are fine and well below 50 even.
damn....any help?
if i can get this working for playing games then i move on to 2.5 gig  drool.gif
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tat just proved ure current overclock is not stable yet and prime stable doesn't mean it's 3d stable....to define a total stable overclock, u need to pass all 3 prime95, memtest86+ and 3dmark2001...btw i found a program call SNM which can detects error for both cpu and mem faster than prime/sp2004 and memtest...it also stresses ure cpu more and the temp shoots higher and faster compared to prime...u can give it a try if u need something to stress the cpu and mem faster b4 u go for a 24hours stressing running prime.

try running sp2004 small fft test with priority 10 for 24hours to test ure cpu stability
run memtest86+ with test #5 for 8 hours for ure ram stability and running 2dmark2001 with real time runtime (go to ure windows task manager, click on the processes tab and sekect 3dmark2001.exe and right click, select priority and select real time)
if u can pass all the criterias above then u'll have a 99% stable overclock

anyway it's something i read over in ocforums and applies to only those that go for a totally stable overclock...you can actually consider ure setup stable if u can play games for hours long but fail prime as soon as it starts....everyone has their own defination of a stable overclock depending on their needs

p/s: u might wanna check ure gfx if it's overclocked since it's a problem occured during gaming

This post has been edited by evildonkey: Mar 3 2005, 11:01 AM

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